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    Introducing elephants into N.Australia 'would be a 10-tonne cane toad'

    Elephants 'would be a 10-tonne cane toad'



    ELEPHANTS could become the "10-tonne cane toads" of the Australian outback if they were introduced to control invasive grasses, an environmental group says.

    In an article published in the journal Nature today, Tasmanian scientist David Bowman proposes allowing the enormous mammals to roam through Australia's savannas to control the African pest gamba grass.

    But the Pew Environmental Group says unleashing elephants could be disastrous.

    "Unmanaged fire and invasive pests are some of the biggest threats to the native plants and animals of the outback," Patrick O'Leary from group said in a statement today.

    "But the solution is already in our own backyard and the last thing our unique landscape needs is the equivalent of a 10-tonne cane toad flattening the countryside."

    Mr O'Leary said other options, such as greater funding for indigenous rangers, were a better way of controlling pest plants and animals.



    "Indigenous rangers have stopped noxious weeds like Mimosa from expanding from the Northern Territory into the Kimberley," Mr O'Leary said.

    "We do know how to control pests like gamba grass. It's not too late at all - that's a furphy - but we have to have a coordinated, scientific and properly funded approach."

    Professor Bowman, an environmental change biologist at the University of Tasmania, wrote that wild elephants could fight invasive pests and reduce fire hazards.


    With around five per cent of the continent burnt in bushfires last year, the introduction of large animals could help reduce the amount of the flammable gamba grass that is widespread in northern areas, Prof Bowman writes in the article.

    "It is too big for marsupial grazers (kangaroos) and for cattle and buffalo.

    "But gamba grass is a great meal for elephants or rhinoceroses," he writes.

    "The idea of introducing elephants may seem absurd, but the only other methods likely to control gamba grass involve using chemicals or physically clearing the land, which would destroy the habitat."

    Elephants 'would be a 10-tonne cane toad' | Herald Sun

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    Elephants not like cane toads , too big, you would break your golf club

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    Outrage over 'cane toad golf'





    A QUEENSLAND council has been condemned by the RSPCA for encouraging its residents to splatter cane toads with golf clubs.

    Townsville City Council produced several hundred beer stubby holders carrying slogans promoting local activities including "cane toad golf", as part of a recently launched advertising campaign.
    The $270,000 campaign is designed to showcase "all the great things about Townsville and the people who live here", a council spokeswoman said.
    Other slogans on the beer coolers include "cold beer on a hot summer's day" and "bagging a barra" (barramundi).
    RSPCA Queensland spokesman Michael Beatty said the merchandise encourages animal cruelty.
    "We just think it's sending the wrong message, particularly to young people," Mr Beatty told AAP.
    "We just don't want to encourage anyone to go hitting any animal, even if it is a cane toad, with a golf club, a baseball bat, a cricket bat or any other form of blunt instrument."

    Not only is clubbing toads inhumane, Mr Beatty said, it is also an ineffective way of eradicating the pests.
    "Nine times out of 10 the toad gets up and hops away," he said.
    "We're not being wowsers about it, it's just irresponsible."
    Townsville mayor Tony Mooney said the council will look at removing the cane toad golf stubby holders from the campaign if offence is taken.
    "This is a campaign that promotes the good things about Townsville and our residents," he said.
    "I certainly don't want to see anything that might offend people and steps will be taken to sort it out."
    The slogans were always intended to be humorous, Cr Mooney said.
    "Let's not get too politically correct," he said.

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    seems they are also talking of Komodos!
    Thought the Abos exterminated the mega version 15000 years ago

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    Sounds a great idea but why limit it there? Australia is the perfect place to replicate the African and Indian habitats currently under threat from development and releasing an assortment of species such as the elephant, lion, tiger, rhino and hippo into it would ensure their survival and protection. Antelope, gazelle and widebeeste would have to be imported as well lest the predators get hungry and focus their carnivorous attentions on whichever passing Antipodean might take their fancy.

    Honestly can't see a downside to this. Good for tourism and bloodsports too. I expect the bongs would think it a positive boon and could be prevailed upon to do a spot of ivory poaching for authenticity's sake and make the park rangers life a little more exciting.

    The possibilities are endless.

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    Messy to clean the club after - not worth the effort

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    ^Depends on what club you use I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    ELEPHANTS could become the "10-tonne cane toads" of the Australian outback
    They are not able to jump as high in proportion to their bodysize although they never forget a face apparently and are terrified of mice.

    Could be the saviour of the struggling tourist industry though. We could charge for rides and teach them to play football (aussie rules) and to paint pictures of flowers (aboriginal dot painting style) for tourist entertainment.

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    I don't have the slightest idea whether the introduction of elephants would be a good thing.

    However if it turns out to have a negative impact it could easily be corrected. Some people would pay well for the privilege to do it.

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    Well bloody hell, now I know what a "Furphy" is. Learned something new today.

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    Plus they can sell the tusks in China, sex organs in Thailand, its a win win situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Australia is the perfect place to replicate the African and Indian habitats
    Australia neither wishes to be Indian, or African. It is Australia, and it's flora and fauna is unique to Australia. If I wanted to see African wildlife, that is where I would go- except for most of us of course, there is the Zoo.

    Here's a few introduced species to Oz, now running wild-
    Carp
    English perch (redfin)
    Camels
    Feral pigs
    Water buffalo
    Rabbits
    Hare
    Foxes
    Blackberries
    Cane toads
    Dingo
    Feral cats
    Fruit fly
    African wasp

    And loads more. It's a losing battle really, but deliberately introducing more non-native species would not be popular with the natives. Oz has enough problems with feral pests already.
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    Imagine how off their rocker peeps would get licking 10 foot cane toads

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    "Gamba Grass"? The scientific name for which is: Andropogon Gayanus


    Obviously a typical Aussie problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Here's a few introduced species to Oz, now running wild-
    Carp
    English perch (redfin)
    Camels
    Feral pigs
    Water buffalo
    Rabbits
    Hare
    Foxes
    Blackberries
    Cane toads
    Dingo
    Feral cats
    Fruit fly
    African wasp

    And loads more.
    Indian students
    Afghan refugees
    Chinese tourists
    Lebanese dole parasites
    Welsh prime ministers

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    ^ You forgot 10 pound ticket boat people from the motherland

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thegent
    Australia is the perfect place to replicate the African and Indian habitats
    Australia neither wishes to be Indian, or African. It is Australia, and it's flora and fauna is unique to Australia. If I wanted to see African wildlife, that is where I would go- except for most of us of course, there is the Zoo.

    Here's a few introduced species to Oz, now running wild-
    Carp
    English perch (redfin)
    Camels
    Feral pigs
    Water buffalo
    Rabbits
    Hare
    Foxes
    Blackberries
    Cane toads
    Dingo
    Feral cats
    Fruit fly
    African wasp

    And loads more. It's a losing battle really, but deliberately introducing more non-native species would not be popular with the natives. Oz has enough problems with feral pests already.
    more importantly, introducing a species, purely as a biological control has been proven to be disastrous, why do people even suggest to try again ?

    shows a lack of understanding and a lack of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    more importantly, introducing a species, purely as a biological control has been proven to be disastrous, why do people even suggest to try again ?

    shows a lack of understanding and a lack of history.
    Absolutely. The abos were doing just fine till we started shipping you lot over by the boatload for sheep shagging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    Feral pigs
    Not a nice way to refer to Aussie women......

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    Sounds like a bonza idea.

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    It's hypocritical to warn of the destructive impact of introducing new species when the people making the argument are descendents of the original invasion of destructive species; sheep shagging Brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
    It's hypocritical to warn of the destructive impact of introducing new species when the people making the argument are descendents of the original invasion of destructive species; sheep shagging Brits.
    If you were to read that epic of white convict settlement of Australia, "The Fatal Shore", you'll learn that it was the Irish who were shagging the sheep. The English were too busy shagging each other.

    The term "Shirtlifter" was coined to describe the habits of the English convicts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
    It's hypocritical to warn of the destructive impact of introducing new species when the people making the argument are descendents of the original invasion of destructive species; sodomising man banging Brits and sheep shagging Paddies.
    If you were to read that epic of white convict settlement of Australia, "The Fatal Shore", you'll learn that it was the Irish who shagging the sheep. The English were too busy shagging each other.

    The term "Shirtlifter" was coined to describe the habits of the English convicts.
    OK, thanks and sorted due to historical reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Orange View Post
    It's hypocritical to warn of the destructive impact of introducing new species when the people making the argument are descendents of the original invasion of destructive species; sheep shagging Brits.
    Good job we rocked up to teach those abos a lesson. They wiped out countless species of fascinating and unique marsupial megafauna over the preceding 10,000 years. About time they got a taste of their own medicine.

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    Abo's are an introduced species too, and they brought their dingo with them.

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