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    Quick question about 30 day visa on arrival

    We will be making a trip (40-50 days) to Thailand next month, and I would like to know if it is a simple process or even if it is possible to extend the 30 day visa on arrival. Some sites say it is, some say it can be problematic.

    And will an airline allow a ticketholder to fly to Thailand with a 50 day return ticket but with no visa arranged? Iwouldnt want to get turned back at the airport!

    Thanks for any info.

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    You will need confirmation of booked travel out of Thailand before your 30 days expire if you want to board your aircraft out of UK. Thirty day visa stamps can be extended by 7 days or you can border-run twice and get 15 days each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Thirty day visa stamps can be extended by 7 days or you can border-run twice and get 15 days each time.
    Good try but not correct. Simply go to immigration in Hua Hin and apply for a 30 day extension for 1900. Border runs by air or land are now 30 days as well.

    It is also a Visa Exemption you will be coming in not, not a Visa on Arrival.

    How do I extend my 30-day visa exemption in Thailand?




    You may apply for an extension of stay at any Immigration Office in Thailand (สำนักงานตรวจคนเข้าเมือง – Immigration Bureau) where you may be permitted to stay for another 30-day period. You must do so before your stay permits expires, otherwise you will be fined 500 Baht for each day you overstay in Thailand.





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    ^^Wrong.

    The visa exemption can be extended by a month for 1,900 baht at your local immigration.

    Theoretically, when you arrive you should have a return ticket within your thirty days, though in practice this is rarely enforced for visitors from the UK.

    There are quite a few sites around now to help you 'achieve this' for just a few bucks.

    http://https://onwardticketvisa.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4db4lJXy_wIV_ZpmAh1PcgnyEAAYAyA AEgLh7PD_BwE

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    thanks for that s.a. and cyrille.

    btw that link doesnt work.

    to avoid having to deal with thai immigration either in bkk (a whole day wasted there) or hh ( tea money) i will apply for the 60 day e visa. there's not too much paperwork involved and although the e visa site is a clunky mess, it does work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    thanks for that.

    looks like i will need to obtain a 60 day e-visa.
    Not if you're married.

    You can extend any visa plus a Visa Exemption for 60 days based of visiting 'spouse'.

    1900thb.

    It can be extended at any time and will start at the end of our permission of temporary stay stamp.


    You can do it the day after you arrive and it will be concurrent to the number of days you got while entering the kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Simply go to immigration in Hua Hin and apply for a 30 day extension for 1900.
    60 day extension for 1900thb, if married or parent to a Thai national.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    btw that link doesnt work.
    Fixed.

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    Previously known as the unofficial marriage visa for expats near the border areas before 2010-ish.

    Cross the border to Laos/Cambodia.
    Reenter for free, get 30 days. Pick up booze and fags duty free.
    Go to immigration, get 60 day extension based on wife, 1900thb.

    Repeat every 90 days.

    No finances, no home visits, no BS.


    They then changed the land crossings to 15 days, and a few other clampdowns, then everyone went to Sav to get Multi-Entry 12 month visas based on marriage with no funds required by the consulate.

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    yes, i am married to a thai, but the (small) risk of being turned back at the airport by some uk jobsworth with pay grievances and a union card who hasnt had a holiday for a couple of years is not one i am prepared to take.

    so it's the e visa.

    thanks for the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    60 day extension for 1900thb, if married or parent to a Thai national.
    Surely if that is possible it would require extra paperwork, and vary from office to office.

    If he's sure he needs fewer than sixty days then the uncertainty isn't worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    So it's the e visa.
    No.

    It is not any kind of visa.

    It's visa exempt entry.

    A source of huge confusion for everyone. TiT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Surely if that is possible it would require extra paperwork, and vary from office to office.
    It's actually extremely common. I've never heard of refusal or different behaviour from different IOs. Most married couples do it if coming back to Thailand for 2-3 months.

    I've heard some insist that the wife is present, but that's it.

    Wife + Marriage Cert + Thai ID card + Tabien Baan.

    The worst they could ask for is a Kor Ror 2 from the local amphur (an official document stating that you are still married), if they try to be difficult.

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    i think it is a visa.


    Official Website of Thailand Electronic Visa

    Tourist Visa

    Tourism, short visit or medical

    Ordinary passport holder who wishes to enter the Kingdom for the following purposes is subjected to be granted Tourist visa:

    Tourism
    Short visit to family living in Thailand.
    Medical treatment with registered hospitals.
    Participants of MICE (Meeting, Incentives, Convention & Exhibitions) supported by TCEB.
    Required Document
    (Please check relevant embassy/ consulate's website for specifically required documents)

    1. Passport or travel document with validity not less than 6 months.
    2. Photograph of the applicant, taken within the past six months.
    3. Evidence of travel from Thailand (air ticket paid in full).
    4. Evidence of adequate finance (20,000 Baht per person and 40,000 Baht per family).
    Required Document
    The validity of a visa is 3 months or 6 months.
    Period of Stay
    Upon arrival, travellers with this type of visa may be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period of not exceeding 60 days.
    Extension of Stay
    Those who wish to stay longer or may wish to change their type of visa must file an application for permission at the Office of Immigration Bureau located on Government Center B, Chaengwattana Soi 7, Laksi, Bangkok 10210, Tel 0-2141-9889 (or at สำนักงานตรวจคนเข้าเมือง – Immigration Bureau). The extension of stay as well as the change of certain type of visa is solely at the discretion of the Immigration officer.

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    I bought the 60 day at immigration in the Thai airport upon first arrival, very easy. But, that was at Don Muang 20 years ago, and the immigration laws have changed, so I doubt that's still an option - I think that's what you meant, Tax? Also, the second part of your question, the airlines are a right pain in the arse nowadays with checking visas before you board, so that is a real risk too (if your ticket is later); airline by airline, often as prompted by immigration rules which have been very changeable due to Covid, etc.

    Thai Embassy UK says:

    Can I stay in Thailand for 32 days? | ThaiEmbassy.com

    https://www.thaiembassy.com/faq/thai-visa-on-a-one-way-ticket


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    the e-visa site, which is down at the moment, offers a 90 day tourist visa, the 60 day visa does not seem to be available any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    It's actually extremely common. I've never heard of refusal or different behaviour from different IOs. Most married couples do it if coming back to Thailand for 2-3 months.

    I've heard some insist that the wife is present, but that's it.

    Wife + Marriage Cert + Thai ID card + Tabien Baan.

    The worst they could ask for is a Kor Ror 2 from the local amphur (an official document stating that you are still married), if they try to be difficult.
    So, like I said, paperwork and uncertainty not worth it if certainly staying for fewer than 60 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    I think it's a visa
    It definitely is not a visa.

    It's an exemption from requiring a visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the e-visa site, which is down at the moment, offers a 90 day tourist visa, the 60 day visa does not seem to be available any more.
    Check again,

    Single Entry Visa :
    Single Entry Visa will be valid for 3 months from the date of issue. You must enter Thailand within the validity of visa.
    For Tourist Visa, the permitted length of stay is up to 60 days from the date of arrival in Thailand.

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    He’s not going for visa exempt stay, he’s applying for a single entry visa, now referred to as an E- visa.

    Incidentally, folk without a visa going for a 30 day on arrival stamp do run the risk of denial of boarding unless they have confirmed onward travel booked before its expiry. On two occasions I have had ground staff at LHR quizzing me because I was either travelling on the return leg or on a single ticket and they couldn’t find a visa vignette in my passport. They had overlooked my re entry stamp.

    Ground staff are usually handling agents for the airlines and have to be scrupulous in boarding passengers given that an inadmissible passenger at the destination may result in a penalty charge levied on the carrier who will doubtless seek compensation from the handling agents. Therefore, comply with the Timetable information Manual ( the bible for global info on visa requirements ) used by handling agents or ignore at your peril.

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    Fixed.
    that bogus "onwards ticket" thing could be very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    He’s not going for visa exempt stay, he’s applying for a single entry visa, now referred to as an E- visa.

    Ground staff are usually handling agents for the airlines and have to be scrupulous in boarding passengers given that an inadmissible passenger at the destination may result in a penalty charge levied on the carrier who will doubtless seek compensation from the handling agents. Therefore, comply with the Timetable information Manual ( the bible for global info on visa requirements ) used by handling agents or ignore at your peril.
    we recently travelled to poland, and 2 weeks before the flight the airline (jet2) contacted me as king about my passport validity.

    my 10 year passport was renewed in 2013, 9 months before its expiry date, because the visa pages had been filled thanks to the thais love of large stamps.

    on renewal my new passport was valid for 10 years and 9 months, expiring may 2024, the 10 year expiry date was aug 2023.

    eu rules state that there must be 3 moths validity on a passport at the time of leaving the eu, not including the extra months over the 10 years, and therefore my passport was invalid and i would not be allowed to board the flight.

    if i did not want to lose the holiday i needed to renew my passport and i had 2 weeks to do it, passport office workers have been on strike lately and lengthy delays are the norm. urgent renewals cost £200 and luckily i managed to book the last available appointment in the uk before our holiday, it meant i had to travel to durham to present myself and collect it. now i have a new black uk passport!

    poland was excellent btw. i can highly recommend krakow for a short break.



    The more onerous rules, which came into effect in 2021, apply to UK passport holders travelling to any EU country (except Ireland), plus the others in the Schengen zone: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, the Vatican and Switzerland.

    The “over 10-year” problem came about because, for many years, those renewing their passport before the previous one expired were able to add any remaining time left. Prior to September 2018, you could have up to nine months added to the replacement’s 10-year length – meaning their passport could be valid for as long as 10 years and nine months.

    Passengers may look at their passport, see that it does not expire until well after their return, and conclude that all is well. However, they need to check the date of issue. If the passport will be more than 10 years old on the day of entry, they will not be allowed in.

    The change has caught out a great many passengers who were unaware of the change. Last year, Guardian Money featured the case of Pat Cerely and her husband, Peter, who were refused permission to board their plane to Madeira on the grounds that Pat’s passport was not valid – even though it had another nine months remaining.

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    A mate of mine worked in Krakow for two years - he loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    ncidentally, folk without a visa going for a 30 day on arrival stamp do run the risk of denial of boarding unless they have confirmed onward travel booked before its expiry. On two occasions I have had ground staff at LHR quizzing me because I was either travelling on the return leg or on a single ticket and they couldn’t find a visa vignette in my passport. They had overlooked my re entry stamp.
    I had a similar thing at LGW last year. Do you have a return ticket? No. Sharp intake of breath. You have just looked at every page of my passport, my visa is good for 9 more months, I don't need an return ticket to land. Oh, umm, er ....

    I am fairly sure that I don't need an outbound ticket to land in Thailand but I am still not completely certain that I don't need one to depart UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the e-visa site, which is down at the moment, offers a 90 day tourist visa, the 60 day visa does not seem to be available any more.
    Be sure to print out and bring the documents for the E-Visa for when you arrive in Thailand. Don’t think they have caught on to the “E” in E-Visa quite yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    And will an airline allow a ticketholder to fly to Thailand with a 50 day return ticket but with no visa arranged?
    This has changed to getting a visa? (E- Visa, 60 day Tourist Visa)

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