Thread: Marriage. Non Immigrant O Visa

Tod. I unnerstand you!

Just for you. My mate lives with a Laos/Thai woman.
A few years back, she was asked whether she wanted the Thai Passport or the Laos passport.(They told her she could only have one nationality) She opted for the Laos passport

Fun and games when they sold me a property...


Or should I say, sold my wife a property!

Originally Posted by toddaniels

I hate to call bullshit but you're talking outta your ***!

Tod you come across as a right know it all cnut. No offence meant.
I actually know of Thai woman that took out Japanese citizenship and aquired a Jap passport. She came back here with her husband and went through a shed load of trouble trying to get her Thai nationality back so she could work.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

There is NO law on the books that a thai can't hold two passports or be a citizen of another country in addition to being thai

Try reading

Nationality Act B.E. 2508 (1965)
as amended by Acts No. 2 and 3 B.E. 2535 (1992) and Act No. 4 B.E. 2551 (2008)

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Tod you come across as a right know it all cnut. No offence meant.

Easy, I resemble that remark

I'm done tryin' to push this rope with you.. Google is your friend.
While I hate to quote engrish translations here;

“Section 13
A man or woman of Thai nationality who marries an alien and may acquire the nationality of the spouse according to his nationality law shall, if he or she desires to renounce Thai nationality, make a declaration of his or her intention before an official according to the form and in the manner prescribed in the Ministerial Regulations.”

Originally Posted by toddaniels

GO get your marriage certificate translated into thai at any b/s translation shop. (BE WARNED: the way they translate your english name into thai both your first and your surname will then become the "official spelling of it" whether they wrote it in thai so the pronunciation is right or not). THEN take it and get it certified as a real and accurate translation at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs office (which is in the government complex at Chaengwattana BUT which isn't the Immigration office)! With that she'll be able to to the the Amphur and change her name. I don't believe that they'll ask for the Kor Ror 22 (registration of marriage from abroad).. I believe they just want the MFA certified translation.

Chang Wattana refused to translate it and certify it as a true version. I believe that they were wrong to do this as they were unfamiliar with the seal bearing document affixed to the certificate by the Foreign Office. They have been brainwashed into thinking that the Embassy must be involved without realising that the Foreign Office is, the controller of the Embassy.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Can, I would listen to Todd and follow exactly what he says. What have you got to lose? I scratch my head a little at you own personal dilema and wonder why you don't just go through the steps of getting remarried in Thailand. No ceremony, just the paperwork to receive a Thai marriage certificate so that your wife can change her last name to yours. It took my wife and I half a day and she received an official Thai marriage certificate, changed her name on her Thai ID card and while we were at it she applied for a new passport using her married name. Q.E.D.

The answer is simple. There can only be one legal marriage regardless of the location in which that marriage took place. Two registered marriages is crazy.

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Can, I would listen to Todd and follow exactly what he says. What have you got to lose? I scratch my head a little at you own personal dilema and wonder why you don't just go through the steps of getting remarried in Thailand. No ceremony, just the paperwork to receive a Thai marriage certificate so that your wife can change her last name to yours. It took my wife and I half a day and she received an official Thai marriage certificate, changed her name on her Thai ID card and while we were at it she applied for a new passport using her married name. Q.E.D.

The answer is simple. There can only be one legal marriage regardless of the location in which that marriage took place. Two registered marriages is crazy.

But this is Thailand and they could give a toss if you are married in another country or not. Many expats working in Saudi would have two marriages. One in Cyprus so that they could cohabitate in the Kingdom and then another one if a Cyprus wedding was not recognized in their homeland. Also like a Mexican wedding if you are American since it is not recognized in the US. So not crazy at all and it is done all the time.

Go ahead and do it the hard way if you like, but you are in for many frustrations if you think the law here is black and white.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

But this is Thailand and they could give a toss if you are married in another country or not. Many expats working in Saudi would have two marriages. One in Cyprus so that they could cohabitate in the Kingdom and then another one if a Cyprus wedding was not recognized in their homeland. Also like a Mexican wedding if you are American since it is not recognized in the US. So not crazy at all and it is done all the time. Go ahead and do it the hard way if you like, but you are in for many frustrations if you think the law here is black and white.

I am fully aware that lots of crazy things are done all over the world but I cannot bring myself to do anything illegal or irrational. I am a very "black and white" person and I acknowledge that this can cause difficulties for me. I cannot, however, do stupid thngs because others do them.

I appreciate that you are are acting in good faith in advising me so, thank you.

You are welcome. Getting married in two different countires to the same person is not illegal. Now marrying different women in different countries could be a bit challenging, unless your country allows that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by can123

I am fully aware that lots of crazy things are done all over the world but I cannot bring myself to do anything illegal or irrational. I am a very "black and white" person and I acknowledge that this can cause difficulties for me. I cannot, however, do stupid thngs because others do them.

I appreciate that you are are acting in good faith in advising me so, thank you.

You are insane to come here to live, then. This is the last place in the fucking universe to inhabit if you can't embrace the stupid, the irrational or the just plain incomprehensible.

Poor old Jeff was an analytical software engineer before he ended up in the boonies and now the poor fucker is wai-ing trees every fucking day and speaks in tongues.

Stay in Pontypridd where you know the ropes.

[QUOTE=Seekingasylum;3186742]

Originally Posted by can123

I am fully aware that lots of crazy things are done all over the world but I cannot bring myself to do anything illegal or irrational. I am a very "black and white" person and I acknowledge that this can cause difficulties for me. I cannot, however, do stupid thngs because others do


I appreciate that you are are acting in good faith in advising me so, thank you.

You are insane to come here to live, then. This is the last place in the fucking universe to inhabit if you can't embrace the stupid, the irrational or the just plain incomprehensible.

Poor old Jeff was an analytical software engineer before he ended up in the boonies and now the poor fucker is wai-ing trees every fucking day and speaks in tongues.

Stay in Pontypridd where you know the ropes.[/QUOTE


No disrespect respect to Can though I'd say that's the best advice he's had on this thread.

Otherwise, hire yourself a translator.

messed up Quote.

[quote=TheAnonEgg;3186755]

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Originally Posted by can123

I am fully aware that lots of crazy things are done all over the world but I cannot bring myself to do anything illegal or irrational. I am a very "black and white" person and I acknowledge that this can cause difficulties for me. I cannot, however, do stupid thngs because others do


I appreciate that you are are acting in good faith in advising me so, thank you.

You are insane to come here to live, then. This is the last place in the fucking universe to inhabit if you can't embrace the stupid, the irrational or the just plain incomprehensible.

Poor old Jeff was an analytical software engineer before he ended up in the boonies and now the poor fucker is wai-ing trees every fucking day and speaks in tongues.

Stay in Pontypridd where you know the ropes.[/QUTtE


No disrespect respect to Can though I'd say that's the best advice he's had on this thread.

Well, actually, you are being disrespectful. You are also not very bright. There is a world of difference between acknowledging and accepting that some people do stupid things and doing stupid things oneself.

I am quite happy for all manner of idiots to do irrational things. I find it quite amusing, I just don't do daft things myself.

Pass

Originally Posted by TheAnonEgg

Pass

You did the right thing to "pass". Loads of nutters on here and if you did everything they told you to do you would end up being as daft as they are.

I am quite happy to wai trees.

Originally Posted by TheAnonEgg

This is the last place in the fucking universe to inhabit if you can't embrace the stupid, the irrational or the just plain incomprehensible.

This is where we differ. Nothing is incomprehensible to me.

Originally Posted by can123

The answer is simple. There can only be one legal marriage regardless of the location in which that marriage took place. Two registered marriages is crazy.

You are making an issue out of nothing, USA is not a signatory of the Hague convention on marriage, you need to register it there to be legal.
Thailand registers marriages under the civil and commercial code, it's about being covered under Thai law.

Nothing says you can't register an Amphor marriage, if you have an Embassy letter to say you are free do so.

My niece, Australian, married her Australian husband on Samui, they then did the registry office thing in OZ, it's no big deal.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Nothing says you can't register an Amphor marriage, if you have an Embassy letter to say you are free do so.

James , you are being very silly. Why the hell do I need a letter to say I am free to marry when I am already married and they know that I am ?

Originally Posted by can123

Loads of nutters on here and if you did everything they told you to do you would end up being as daft as they are.

Well fcuk off and find a forum that suits your agenda. You idiot.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Well fcuk off and find a forum that suits your agenda. You idiot.

Having a drink, are you ?

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Nothing says you can't register an Amphor marriage, if you have an Embassy letter to say you are free do so.

James , you are being very silly. Why the hell do I need a letter to say I am free to marry when I am already married and they know that I am ?

Simple Thai law, Thailand, UK their laws, or do you think your Thai wife can use Thai laws to enforce Thai laws in the UK, or the UK can enforce their laws in Thailand.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by can123

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Nothing says you can't register an Amphor marriage, if you have an Embassy letter to say you are free do so.

James , you are being very silly. Why the hell do I need a letter to say I am free to marry when I am already married and they know that I am ?

Simple Thai law, Thailand, UK their laws, or do you think your Thai wife can use Thai laws to enforce Thai laws in the UK, or the UK can enforce their laws in Thailand.

You are missing the point. My Embassy can not give me a letter saying that I am free to marry when they already know I am married.

Man is it a full moon because the nutters sure came out from under the carpet with their 2 satang's worth of info

Again this is that same old "get married all over again in thailand" b/s story comes up that everyone tells is the way to do it.

For the last time (especially for the thick) he is NOT wanting to get married her in thailand again. He is wanting to register the foreign marriage here, period

It is a relatively straight forward process to get the marriage of a thai and foreigner who were married abroad recognized at the Amphur. I am relatively sure it doesn't involve getting any documentation from his embassy. I have told him what I surmised it'd take and told him have his wife call the government hotline too, but obviously that fell on deaf ears

He wouldn't need an affirmation of freedom to marry because he's been married to his thai wife for years! You guys are confusing registering a foreign marriage in thailand with getting married in thailand. Those are whores from a different go-go bar..

AND NO, once you register a foreign marriage here you don't get a Kor 2 or a Kor Ror 3 because you're NOT getting married, instead the forn you'll get after that is a Kor Ror 22

Would've thought the answer is get married again in Thailand, according to google is your friend you can.
Cut out all the so-called hassle.

Is that a joke?