Thread: Home visit

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by toddaniels

I'll wear it out to Chaengwattana tomorrow

A threads no good without pictures. Can you receive food parcels in Thai jails?

I'm sure you're joking, but don't do anything to anger them. They an cause you a whole lot more grief than you can cause them.

Sorry there Bobr, you have me confused with the thais and most foreigners here with thai significant others.. Unlike those demographics of people I am NOT scared witless by any thai in a too tight uniform.

I apply for a yearly extension every year but once that stamp is in my passport I have the RIGHT to live here for a year if I follow the rules, which I do. I ain't a guest and I ain't gonna take shit off someone because they wanna flex their muscles with me. I've gone toe to toe with officers who didn't wanna do things "according to Hoyle". I'm NOT afraid to argue with thais if I feel what I'm tryin' to do is within the rules.

The shirt turned out to be much ado about nothing. I'm sure they read it, because few foreigners wear thai script shirts, (especially ones with a GIANT stop sign emblazoned on it) but no one had balls big enough to say to my face.

All the moto-guys, taxi drivers, door men, security, house-keepers, Soi side sellers and even the local litter-police (เทศกิจ) thought it was a great shirt.

The line between who loves the shirt and who hates it is clearly divided between the givers and the takers. <- That is sad.

Fok all that crap.

You married guys should go and get a multi-entry 12 month Non O based on marriage.

Then when you get back with it, book cheap flights and hotels in places like Malaysia, Hong Kong, even Japan was only 5k flights not long ago, for 90 days, 180 days, 240 days, 360 days.

Nice trips away in places like Vietnam, Singapore, cheap when booked in advance, never bother with Thai immigration again - besides coming and going for your trip away every 3 months.

Life would surely be much more enjoyable.

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Nice trips away, cheap when booked in advance, never bother with Thai immigration again - besides coming and going for your trip away every 3 months.

Life would surely be much more enjoyable.

Not if you live 4-6 hours away from the airport with no direct bus connections.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

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Nice trips away, cheap when booked in advance, never bother with Thai immigration again - besides coming and going for your trip away every 3 months.

Life would surely be much more enjoyable.

Not if you live 4-6 hours away from the airport with no direct bus connections.

Air Asia fly to China, Cambodia, Malaysia, India, Japan, Singapore, Myanmar, Vietnam etc. out of Khon Kaen.

Treat yourself every 3 months and forget about documents, immigration offices, proof of funds and everything else.

Surely more enjoyable and less stressful.

6+ hour drive to KK from here with no direct bus. Similar to Bkk. In fact the village where I live has no public services. Nah, I appreciate your advice Luigi but it's less hassle just to carry on with jumping through hoops than it is to get to an airport.

Go on long-term overstay, keep 100k in a fund just in case.

Have you seen the proposed overstay penalties?

He said foreigners who turn themselves in would be barred from re-entering Thailand for one year if their overstay time exceeds 90 days. The ban will be valid for three years if their overstay period is more than one year. Those overstaying for more than three years will be barred from coming back to Thailand for five full years. In the event an overstay exceeds five years, their re-entry to Thailand will be prohibited for the next 10 years.

Heavy new penalties await visa overstays - The Nation

'proposed'


They sky fell around this time last year too.

If something really causes you this much pain, change it.

Very difficult when one has 3 small children to consider first.

Consider moving them the fok away from Thailand would be a good consideration, to start with.

One must remember the last time this was being considered there was a "democratic" government in place. Now we have the military and the great leader. He has taken people off the streets for re-education, and has tried civilians in military courts. I would not put these new penalties past this dictatorship.

^If the country doesn't get happy soon he may just close it and give us some real happiness.

Originally Posted by aging one

One must remember the last time this was being considered there was a "democratic" government in place.

Ummm, either Google is NOT my friend, I can't do simple math or you're wrong. Those "proposed" overstay penalties were run up the flagpole in July 2014.. This latest "return happiness to the people" dealy was on 22 May 2014. That would seem to me that the other proposed penalties were cooked up by the same people..

Keep in mind these are ONLY proposed at this point (even though we've been signing a piece of paper at Chaengwattana for over a year now saying we know these are the penalties, it's not worth the paper it's printed on at this point).

There are two ways these new overstay rules can be implemented;
It goes thru the Senate & House gets voted on, gets signed by Prayuth, gets published in the Royal Gazette and becomes law 30 days after that
OR
Prayuth uses article 44 and signs it straight into law.

Did my annual extension based on retirement in Lop buri on Tuesday, no problems at all, out of there in less than an hour, no mention of home visit.
Two new papers to sign one to say I understood the new overstay rules and the other some sort of addition to the TM7.

Today I go to get my Extension stamp post the 30 day 'Under Consideration'. I have to wait my turn. I then hand in my passport. They pull out my file and put it with passport. Won't be long now and should be in and out in 30 minutes. How wrong I was. They have to take my paperwork etc, plus another farang's, to Chong Chom. Chong Chom is where the headman's office is and that's a 20km round trip. The headman signs it and then returned to Kap Choeng. That altogether took 2 hours of waiting before I could drive the 2 hours home. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Sorry there Bobr, you have me confused with the Thais and most foreigners here with Thai significant others.. Unlike those demographics of people I am NOT scared witless by any Thai in a too tight uniform.

Toddly, you do big yourself up,

Now I have no problem with that simply because you deliver the goods on the Visa front and it's very helpful indeed.

The only reason you can big yourself up is that you are way out in front of the run of the mill Farang living in LOS. I give you credit for being smart enough to become versed in the spoken and written Thai language .

You also have invested considerable time sorting all the visa regulations. Great stuff right there.

Forgot what I was going to Say.

Anyway Toddly, you have a nice day, I'll get back to Ya.

Originally Posted by boloa

If I had done as you say Terry I would have left with a One year License ...sometimes you have to kicking against the wind.......a little

Oh yes, I remember now.

In the above situation I would of known the rules and done what you have done. That's not a hard one.

Now regards obscure and flexible Immigration rules ,

Considering I no speaky Thai lingo I'm not in a very good position to argue the Toss with a nasty immigration officer if it kicks off.

So with that in mind I keep my shit simple. Retirement Visa O-A gained in Perth, 90 day reports and just go home and get another one every two years.

Never ever an issue for me so far. You guys that live here forever suffer from flaky Immigration Officers and their ever changing whims.

Todd can deal with it because of his Thai speaking ability and extensive knowledge of Immigration rules.

The vast majority of Farang are not in his position. That said, learn Thai, Major in Immigration rules and then you can them tell Tod to fuk orf.

Until then, I suppose we will just have to STF up.

Originally Posted by terry57

That said, learn Thai, Major in Immigration rules and then you can them tell Tod to fuk orf.

Believe me terry, I don't post to make myself seem better than any other foreigner living here, because I ain't. Although I admit, I do have an extremely high opinion of myself.

I went WAY out of my way to learn to speak this 'one-trick-pony' language, not because I love the country, the people, or the culture, but because these people suck at engrish here. I learned to disagree, argue back, ask real questions and not take b/s answers from them.

I also learned their visa/extension rules (as they are interpreted here in Bangkok); 'inside, outside, upside down, in a box, with a fox'. I wanted to see if I could beat the thais at their own game! They wrote the hare-brained rules and if by following them I can make stuff work, well good on me.

Every time I'm out at Chaengwattana I see person after person get caught out, without the correct copies, without having updated their bank book on the day they apply for an extension, without the right documentation or pictures for a extension based on marriage, etc. It makes me sad there are no people out there vetting paperwork BEFORE you get your queue number called and sit down in front of an officer. All it'd take is one person doing that and their thru-put would triple!

I post as accurate of information as I can about visa/extension stuff on here. I do it because there is a wealth of misinformation out there on the inter-web concerning what can and can't be done regarding visas/extensions for thailand. It is a mine-field for the average person who goes once a year to get a new extension of stay.

Toddly evidently had too much coffee this morning.

End rant.

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Mate some of these posters like to rip the piss out of you for no good reason other than you wear Kiss T shirts or speak funny Seppo langauge.

Myself considers your contribution to these Visa threads invaluable and it's bloody brilliant to have someone on board who really knows his stuff.

Good on you.

Helped me out heaps with the O-A gig.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

It makes me sad there are no people out there vetting paperwork BEFORE you get your queue number called and sit down in front of an officer. All it'd take is one person doing that and their thru-put would triple!

At Kap Choeng they have this person vetting paperwork prior to seeing an officer. But due to the amount of paperwork asked for it doesn't seem to speed things up.

Originally Posted by Humbert

the whole process was pretty much a useless and unnecessary bit of Thai bureaucratic overkill

How true. Did you have to wait whilst your file was sent to Chong Chom for signing, post 30 day under consideration?

Originally Posted by peterpan

I received my retirement permission to stay yesterday at Udon, after some help from Toddly, so now waiting for my visit

You get a visit after your extension has been granted?