TEFLers who don't have a clue how poorly paid they are

**Chairman Mao** · 29-08-2008, 11:18 PM

Nice OP edit Smeg.

Isn't that article from the website you 'visit for 5 minutes every month or so'.

**justwingit** · 29-08-2008, 11:20 PM

money isn't everything is it

**Chairman Mao** · 29-08-2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg (TEFLers who don't have a clue how poorly paid they are)

TEFL salaries are poor. IMO they are so simply because this reflects the professionalism and training involved.

So professionalism and training is responsible for your pathetically low wage Smeg?

**Bexar County Stud** · 30-08-2008, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by William

Why, if the amount is gross then it's about the average wage in the US (200K a month = around 5k)

60,000 dollars a year is not the average wage in the US. What on earth are you talking about?

**pai nai ma** · 30-08-2008, 09:25 AM

^ Amen!

**Sir Burr** · 30-08-2008, 09:32 AM

I think teaching as a whole in every country is a poorly paid profession.
If the money is important to you, don't do teaching.
If it makes you happy then do it.

**AntRobertson** · 30-08-2008, 09:50 AM

Teachers get great holidays though. Even then I respect anyone who makes a career of teaching, it can't be easy. I know I wouldn't have even half the required paitence.

**Bexar County Stud** · 30-08-2008, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

I think teaching as a whole in every country is a poorly paid profession.
If the money is important to you, don't do teaching.
If it makes you happy then do it.

Even more so in Thailand. Unless as others have pointed out, you have the qualifications that will allow you to compete for the higher paying jobs.

And if your job requires very little in terms of experience and qualifications, don't even imagine for a second that you should be on an even footing salary-wise with engineers, accountants and the like. Mr Guru himself BKK Phil doesn't even have a degree and he's flabbergasted that educated Thais are making more money than most of his TEFL brethren?
Funny.

**William** · 30-08-2008, 09:56 AM

^sorry, as a univeristy educated person it is. I didn't make that clear.

**good2bhappy** · 30-08-2008, 10:01 AM

Teaching is hard work, particularly if you are doing 25 contact hours a week with primary kids.
Hats off to those who dedicate themselves to making a diffference

**Bexar County Stud** · 30-08-2008, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by William

^sorry, as a univeristy educated person it is. I didn't make that clear.

No offense, but that's complete BS, or perhaps one of those useless stats.

60K certainly isn't the average for teachers.

**Texpat** · 30-08-2008, 10:20 AM

Working is for peasants.

Now where's my minxy little maid run off to?

**good2bhappy** · 30-08-2008, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

Working is for peasants.

You might say that but I could not possibly comment.

**Chairman Mao** · 30-08-2008, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

Teaching is hard work, particularly if you are doing 25 contact hours a week with primary kids.

No it's not. I do 22 and it's so easy and so much fun it's laughable. We have excelent resources though, and I've had good training which has taught me how to fully organise and execute entertaining and educational lessons, and have the experience to feel totally at home entertaining while teaching 40 6 year olds. But it does take energy, someone who enjoys it (I can't imagine someone not enjoying it once they know how to do it) and someone who's dedicated to it and is actually happy in their life I feel.

Absolutely stress free job if you are naturally suited to it.

Unfortunately a lot, maybe even most, aren't. I wouldn't let half the teachers I work with 'educate' my kids if I had any.

I mean, imagine the likes of Smeg having a daily influence on your child... Scary, SCARY thought.

**pai nai ma** · 30-08-2008, 12:47 PM

^ Hey Mao -- Why not post more pics of you getting a blow job? (Give us a visual as you attempt to sound professional while merely being judgmental) Please?

**dirtydog** · 30-08-2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

Teaching is hard work, particularly if you are doing 25 contact hours a week

Most people work 40 hour weeks, if the teacher finds it hard going doing 25 hours maybe he isn't really suitable or well enough trained for it?

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

I make millions a month (in the local currency).

I,m going to Laos next week

**good2bhappy** · 30-08-2008, 12:51 PM

25 contact hours plus the time to prepare those hours often adds up to a lot more than 40 per week.
Marking, grading, lesson planning and exam setting as well as meetings and other duties is damn tiring.

**dirtydog** · 30-08-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

25 contact hours plus the time to prepare those hours

It's the same lessons year after year, with proper training preperation should only be a couple of minutes each morning, English language isn't evolving at a rapid pace.

**good2bhappy** · 30-08-2008, 12:56 PM

^Oh well sounds like a good lark then.
Must give it a bash.

**Chairman Mao** · 30-08-2008, 01:17 PM

Marking, grading, lesson planning and exam setting as well as meetings and other duties is damn tiring.

Are you a teacher G2BH?

sounds like a good lark then.
Must give it a bash.

If you've time on your hands, are easy going, professional, don't need to 'make' money to live here, or need to be saving for the future than go get trained up. It's a laugh once you get into it, easy and obviously very rewarding.

Just speaking the truth Obs. Looks like you're lucky enough to have never worked with a lot of the retards who make up the industry. Congratulations.

**Marmite the Dog** · 30-08-2008, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

60K certainly isn't the average for teachers.

AO's missus isn't a teacher.

**pai nai ma** · 30-08-2008, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by William

sorry, as a univeristy educated person it is.

Average? No way.

**Spin** · 30-08-2008, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

It's opened my eyes because I rather naively thought that all professional Thais at managerial level earned about 30-40K a month

This Phil character has been here years and is only now discovering that all Thais dont earn 6000 baht per month. It just underlines what a cock he is.

**Bexar County Stud** · 30-08-2008, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Bexar County Stud

60K certainly isn't the average for teachers.

AO's missus isn't a teacher.

I don't recall saying she was.

The context as I saw it was somebody claimed 60K was the average salary in the US.

False.

Then it was 60K is the average for university educated folks

This is also false.

Furthermore it is false for teachers, who are university educated people.

Got it? I never said anything about AO's wife, now fuck off.

**pai nai ma** · 30-08-2008, 04:59 PM

^ yeh!

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