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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The US is another story. It is far more grim. The story gets worse by the day. As you well know America has the greatest income disparity in the industrial world.
    And the greatest concentration of gun ownership...

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    Status quo...Eh Koman...

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    Maybe, just maybe, he gets it now.

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    posted this a ways up, didn't comment:

    Elites Launch Another Dystopian Mindbender

    Posted on December 18, 2011 by Zen Gardner

    How’s that for cognitive dissonance? After outright media blackout, ridicule, and violent police oppression, this mind-bending “honor” arises. Smell anything fishy here? AFP – Time magazine named the collective “protester” around the world as its … Continue reading →
    article is good on skepticism of TPTB's desire to co-opt/steer and/or neutralize OWS; but bad on practical/effective/non-violent new approaches (peace, love, truth...)

    Two most productive approaches I'm aware of which don't involve public gatherings, are

    1- Occupy Our (Foreclosed) Homes - but I go a step further and say, if your mortgage is at or near being underwater, WALK AWAY but continue to occupy until removed by Sheriff's office, if that ever happens. Senseless to keep paying, market's not coming back. Odds are you'll be able to live there free & unmolested for a year or more.
    NY Times 5/31/10: Owners Stop Paying Mortgages, and Stop Fretting

    2- move your money - Un-Occupy Big Banks! ref:
    https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...ions-last.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Maybe, just maybe, he gets it now.
    It might have helped the deaf, but not the terminally blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^Just gotta wonder why he even bothered to mention OWS if they are such a worthless bunch of riff-raff.

    The Occupy groups have a long way to go before they let up.
    For sure!

    Just look how long Castro's Cuba has gone on before it's giving up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    Is there any glimmer of understaning out there in the fogbound world of liberalism yet?........
    It's a waste of time arguing with these 'useful' idiots.

    Like trying to teach a pig to sing. It only annoys the pig and wastes your time...

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    ^ keep parroting your Faux news catch phrases.

    “I like that about the Republicans; the evidence does not faze them, they are not bothered at all by the facts.”
    ~Bill Clinton

    “Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself.”
    ~Harry Truman

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    David Icke posted the couple of "Message to OWS" vids below awhile ago, haven't noticed them in this thread. I often link to Icke's excellent article, The Zionist Elephant In The Room. He did this follow-up article about a year ago, They Dare Not Speak Its Name ... Rothschild Zionism

    He starts off in these vids below by addressing our usurious/fraudulent "money" system as being the root of our problems, and how if that doesn't change, everything else is meaningless. I concur! The Rothschild Vampire Squid (Global Usury Empire) is the root of our problems:



    I'm still getting through the 2nd part but so far it seems to be standard Icke fare re consciousness raising to some of the other global-scale rackets we endure, the banksters' move towards fascist One World Gov dictatorship, TPTB's Problem-Reaction-Solution MO, breaking out of the matrix/mind-prison TPTB work so hard to keep us in, etc.

    Speaking of mind-prisons, I predict Boxer & comrades will poop out some Rule 5 if not other Rules, in reminding of Icke's more sensational past claims, to avoid & deter productive discussion of Icke's message below- but we're used to their fecal-flingings by now...



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    At the heart of his theories lies the idea that the world is becoming a global fascist state, that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George H. W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[5]

    Reptilian humanoids indeed!

    Tim foil hat time or what?...
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    ^
    At the heart of his theories lies the idea that the world is becoming a global fascist state, that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George H. W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[5]

    Reptilian humanoids indeed!

    Tim foil hat time or what?...
    Have to disagree with you there Booners. I know for a fact that reptiles are trying to take over the world. My house was constantly being invaded by small Babylonians until we brought home a feral cat from the wife's village. It ate every one of them..... I believe I'm safe from their world conspiricy.....at least for now... but just like the TD comrades I'm sure they will keep coming back for more... good thing; it will save me having to buy cat food.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Maybe, just maybe, he gets it now.
    I DO....I DO......left wing liberals love really low budget videos, and U-Tube cartoons.....did I guess right?....do I get a prize....

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    ^ Sure here you go enjoy because you earned it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Tim foil hat time or what?...
    Although dumber than a bag of hammers BoxerCo may be, and although their insipid "message" surely becomes tiresome for honest, critical-thinking readers-- the honest readers here must concede: Their utter predictability is endearing at times...

    Quote Originally Posted by HansuMan View Post
    Speaking of mind-prisons, I predict Boxer & comrades will poop out some Rule 5 if not other Rules, in reminding of Icke's more sensational past claims, to avoid & deter productive discussion of Icke's message below- but we're used to their fecal-flingings by now...
    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
    No "reptilian humanoids" in Icke's spiel above, just straight talk of how the ruling cabal works their Black Magic from behind their veil of secrecy and deception; the nightmarish world they're deliberately driving everyone into; and how to fight it. It's a level of consciousness of Truth which the teabaggers would benefit from learning as well- as meaningful change won't be possible with most people not even understanding the reality of the "system" we're in today, and consequently expending their energies boxing false shadows (IE "Left vs Right") cast by TPTB from behind their secrecy/deception veil.

    But BoxerCo's agenda, regardless of whether they're taxpayer-paid or volunteer propagandists, isn't interested in effective change- they're interested in flinging their predictable Rules and Chutzpah Maneuvers around, diluting threads like this of quality dialog, in service to (their bosses'?) agenda of preventing real change.

    So honest readers here can understand BoxerCo's predictable employment of Rule 5 above, because it's crucial that they, and hopefully "We", avoid dealing with issues which may risk putting an actual fire under the movement towards changing the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    [yada yada] left wing liberals [yada yada]
    hey koman, I never heard back from you or your comrades on this:

    Quote Originally Posted by HansuMan View Post
    komen, I've noticed you & your "anti-OWS" comrades Boxer & Minnie, have as your most persistent propaganda agenda within this thread, the goal of DIVIDING/POLARIZING PEOPLE, and the viable reform-movements they form, through constantly evoking worn out emotion-tugger "Left vs Right" Divide & Rule propaganda, as you seek to "frame the debate" and pigeonhole diverse people with these silly, fraudulent mind-kontrol labels.

    Why is that?
    sooooo...

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    What a dumbass you are HM.
    Same tired BS 'rules'...

    Heh...let's get back to those reptiles that are invading the earth, eh?
    Queen Elizabeth and Bush.
    How about those feared Freemason's too?

    You really are a piece of work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    I DO....I DO......left wing liberals love really low budget videos, and U-Tube cartoons.....did I guess right?....do I get a prize....
    Do you really think this is a right-left issue?

    Do you really think the Occupy protesters are complaining about investment banking?

    Do you really not realize they are protesting corporate control of the US government?

    Who is working behind the scenes to solve our problems? Got some good inside info?

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    Nope...they just like taking dumps on Police Cars - what a Movement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    I DO....I DO......left wing liberals love really low budget videos, and U-Tube cartoons.....did I guess right?....do I get a prize....
    Do you really think this is a right-left issue?

    Do you really think the Occupy protesters are complaining about investment banking?

    Do you really not realize they are protesting corporate control of the US government?

    Who is working behind the scenes to solve our problems? Got some good inside info?
    That's the issue and the point Koman and Boonme are not getting, they are behind the times. I hear them spouting the rhetoric of the 60's and 70's, "get a job you dirty hippies."
    Perhaps they think corporate control of the government is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ Sure here you go enjoy because you earned it.


    "The Money Masters" is certainly a worthwhile video, 3.5 hours but you can break it up into different sittings. Take notes, research whatever you find questionable/incredible. I do wish the creator/host Bill Still wouldn't shake his pen at the camera so often when talking, though!

    Offhand I'd say a more enjoyable & digestible docu' on how money works, and where this rigged system is taking us, is the 48 min animated "Money As Debt",



    which has a lot of overlap with the recent, 30 min "The American Dream",



    The granddaddy of "how money works" exposes is probably

    Amazon.com: The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve (9780912986210): G. Edward Griffin: Books

    ^ check the link to read:
    Customer Reviews

    144 Reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    "get a job you dirty hippies."
    When the the rubber meets the road, that's what it's all about

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    ^^That book is on my list. All of those other links are excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
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    What a dumbass you are HM.
    Same tired BS 'rules'...


    You really are a piece of work...
    WOW! Isnt that the pot calling the kettle black from the most prolific spammer on the forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    "get a job you dirty hippies."
    When the the rubber meets the road, that's what it's all about
    Only in the mind of an old simpleton like yourself. The majority of the protesters have jobs and degrees. Moot fox news dribble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    "get a job you dirty hippies."
    When the the rubber meets the road, that's what it's all about
    That's what it WAS all about.
    The world has moved on, changed in ways you don't seem able to understand.
    Ways not good.
    The U.S. is now a police state with a government overseen by corporations and moneymen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    ^




    What a dumbass you are HM.
    Same tired BS 'rules'...

    Heh...let's get back to those reptiles that are invading the earth, eh?
    Queen Elizabeth and Bush.
    How about those feared Freemason's too?

    You really are a piece of work...
    ^ Nice Chutzpah Maneuver, AGAIN!

    I think all honest readers can feel the pain of your self-proclaimed victimhood Boxer, at having to endure your Same tired BS 'rules'...

    In fact, in your piece of work above, I think I spy some #2 and #4, in addition to your most predictable routine, #5:

    2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.

    [...]

    4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
    ... although I was a bit surprised you left out your obligatory "left wing loon" type ref, and no reminders of your poop-fixation either for that matter...

    And on the subject of Boxer, here's a copy of your favorite spank rag, should keep you pacified for a few hours,




    edit: as added incentive to Boxer, I'd like to remind that that July '11 Sheeple above has a GoodHair Perry spread & centerfold I think you'll enjoy greatly, as you're GoodHair's #1 fanboy; just a tease for you here Boxer, as this is a family forum:

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