Thread: Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

What we're dealing with here with these protests is a bunch of adult babies who want government to provide all things for all people. It can't happen.

That's where you are so wrong, Boon Mee.

These people are not looking for the government to provide for them. They are looking to change the way the system works in favor of the already wealthy, who have through the monetary support of the politicians, rigged the 'capitalist' system.

You argue that consumerism isn't going put of fashion, but no one is saying it is.

You argue that the protesters are anti-capitalist, when it is only a small fraction of the protesters who are.

Most of us realize capitalism isn't the problem, that what exists in American now is not capitalism, and that the existing system is DOOMED.

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Consumerism didn't arise of itself, it was created by corporations.

Well, so what?

You got a beef with corporations? What's that you're typing on - a Dell, Mac, Sony?

You one of these 'they exploit the masses' retro-people?

OK. I shall respond on your level. Something your simple one-track mind can process.



Here's an award for you.

Interesting. Googling 'corporate dufus' gives me the first result as:

Originally Posted by FlyFree

The easier way to answer. Your'e a dufus.

That is the point that we all reach with boontard. Many of us have tried to make his brain think but that was a bridge to far. The truth is that he is a robot and hopelessly stuck in the box. A real dumb ass.

Originally Posted by FlyFree

OK. I shall respond on your level. Something your simple one-track mind can process.

Likewise...heh



Good luck with that 'new society' yer imagining. You gotta be living in some kinda parallel universe inhabited with other left wing moonbats...

Corporations are evil!

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

We can start to solve the economic/political problems easily, as stated by this 1% group, by:

1) Taking money out of politics. Stopping senators getting millions of dollars from oil companies, drug companies and banking institutions, etc - it is clearly conflict of interest. End of. There is no logical argument against it, nobody even puts up an argument other than saying something weak like "oh well, that's the way it is..."

2) Regulating markets, transparently and actively. There's no surprise that the companies and people who financially benefit the most from unregulated and/or ill-regulated markets, are the ones against it; indeed, see point 1), they are the ones pumping money into senators pockets to stop regulation...

3) Failures are failures; management involved in failures should not be financially compensated to the tune of millions. If a bank, due to massive mismanagement, is bought out or scaffolded by government taxes or similar mechanisms, then the SMT of that bank should not be paid bonuses. The fact that they have been, when connected with the fact that they are family/school/club members with the politicians that are spending taxpayer money to pay these bonuses, is criminal behaviour and should be treated as such. I don't give a flying fuk about their employment contract because that went out of the window when their bad decisions and greed cost every British man, woman and child 20,000 pounds... Where is the contract that states 70 million British citizens must personally pay for the Ferraris and Monaco homes of business failures??? I can tell you, the 70 million never signed nor agreed to such a contract!

At that point, with these three measures in place, we would have come closer to a free market economy and capitalist system than the criminal conspiracy which currently governs and runs the current 'capitalist' system.

Don't be confused, BM; the current criminal conspiracy is just that, it is not capitalism.

Excellent post and fixing those basics is the crux of it all.
Why BM can't see he's a lackey of the uberwealthy power elite is beyond me.
I think he's having a different argument to the rest of us.
He's stuck in a groove started in the 70s and which at the time had some legitimacy.
Times have changed.
The war cry 'get a job you dirty hippie' is over.
Now it's 'help, I'm a family man I need a job'.

This is the kind of discourse that has been sorely needed in this thread. Thanks for these posts.

Finally, something that even the Nazi's & Commie's can agree on.

Young Turks on Wall Street lobbyist anger at democrats for their support of OWS.

haha. Nice post BM.

Communists, Marxists, and Nazi's.

But I agree with Schiff. These people have legit points but they cannot let themselves be hijacked by commi's Marxists and Nazis like Bsnub.

Originally Posted by socal

haha. Nice post BM.

Communists, Marxists, and Nazi's.

But I agree with Schiff. These people have legit points but they cannot let themselves be hijacked by commi's Marxists and Nazis like Bsnub.

You're a complete idiot socal.
And a complete lackey of the uber wealthy power elite who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
We're not talking about hardworking businessmen or successful entrepreneurs, we're talking Bilderburg group, we're talking bankers and financial manipulators who control the money and power on the planet. Who's summer houses have staff.
Don't join that hillby thicko brigade like BM who are still crying get a job you hippy.
Think Rothschild, Rockefeller, think about the 400 families.
Pay attention to this.

We can start to solve the economic/political problems easily, as stated by this 1% group, by:

1) Taking money out of politics. Stopping senators getting millions of dollars from oil companies, drug companies and banking institutions, etc - it is clearly conflict of interest. End of. There is no logical argument against it, nobody even puts up an argument other than saying something weak like "oh well, that's the way it is..."

2) Regulating markets, transparently and actively. There's no surprise that the companies and people who financially benefit the most from unregulated and/or ill-regulated markets, are the ones against it; indeed, see point 1), they are the ones pumping money into senators pockets to stop regulation...

3) Failures are failures; management involved in failures should not be financially compensated to the tune of millions. If a bank, due to massive mismanagement, is bought out or scaffolded by government taxes or similar mechanisms, then the SMT of that bank should not be paid bonuses. The fact that they have been, when connected with the fact that they are family/school/club members with the politicians that are spending taxpayer money to pay these bonuses, is criminal behaviour and should be treated as such. I don't give a flying fuk about their employment contract because that went out of the window when their bad decisions and greed cost every British man, woman and child 20,000 pounds... Where is the contract that states 70 million British citizens must personally pay for the Ferraris and Monaco homes of business failures??? I can tell you, the 70 million never signed nor agreed to such a contract!

At that point, with these three measures in place, we would have come closer to a free market economy and capitalist system than the criminal conspiracy which currently governs and runs the current 'capitalist' system.

Don't be confused, BM; the current criminal conspiracy is just that, it is not capitalism.

BM hasn't had a thought of his own in decades if he ever did.

Today, the price of gold is still fixed, twice a day at 10.30 am and 3.00 pm at the premises of N M Rothschild by the world's main Bullion Houses - Deutsche Bank, HSBC, ScotiaMocatta and Societe Generale. Informally, the gold fixing provides a recognized rate that is used as a benchmark for pricing the majority of gold products and derivatives throughout the world's markets. Every day at 1030 and 1500 local time, five representatives of investment banks meet in a small room at Rothschild's London headquarters on St Swithin's Lane. In the centre is the chairperson, who is by tradition appointed by the Rothschild bank, although the bank itself has largely withdrawn from the trading. The chair ends the meeting with the phrase "There are no flags, and we're fixed".[42]

Two neighbor horse farmers came together one day to talk business. The first farmer sold his horse to the second for a quarter million dollars, and then bought it back for about $20 more. He could now advertise his horse (actually worth $20), as a horse he that he had paid over a quarter of a million dollars for.

We can laugh over such schemes. And perhaps we should laugh at ourselves for having been fooled, for if there is one area in life that exceeds the religious in deception, and touches all of us it is the financial.

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So you agree it's a good thing to have folks like Hamas, KKK, Commies etc supporting your movement?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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So you agree it's a good thing to have folks like Hamas, KKK, Commies etc supporting your movement?

It's neither here nor there really is it, any group with a beef against the U.S. is going to jump on that bandwagon, If just waiting for Kim Jong Ill to throw his hat in the ring (if he hasn't already)
In fact it's quite amusing if you think about it.
What's even more amusing is that some paranoids would attach any significance to it.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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So you agree it's a good thing to have folks like Hamas, KKK, Commies etc supporting your movement?

It's neither here nor there really is it, any group with a beef against the U.S. is going to jump on that bandwagon, If just waiting for Kin Jong Ill to throw his hat in the ring (if he hasn't already)
In fact it's quite amusing if you think about it.
What's even more amusing is that some paranoids would attach any significance to it.

Well, water seeks its own level & birds of a feather we guess...

Originally Posted by misskit

the existing system is DOOMED.

Yes it is so long as folks spend 100K getting degrees in Classical Studies & Sociology etc and expect to find gainful employment. Hard to show prospective employers you have something they are willing to pay for with those kinds of sheepskins, eh? No wonder these people are in the unemployment line.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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So you agree it's a good thing to have folks like Hamas, KKK, Commies etc supporting your movement?

It's neither here nor there really is it, any group with a beef against the U.S. is going to jump on that bandwagon, If just waiting for Kin Jong Ill to throw his hat in the ring (if he hasn't already)
In fact it's quite amusing if you think about it.
What's even more amusing is that some paranoids would attach any significance to it.

Well, water seeks its own level & birds of a feather we guess...

You just thought of that by yourself didn't you?
I can tell because it doesn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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So you agree it's a good thing to have folks like Hamas, KKK, Commies etc supporting your movement?

It's neither here nor there really is it, any group with a beef against the U.S. is going to jump on that bandwagon, If just waiting for Kin Jong Ill to throw his hat in the ring (if he hasn't already)
In fact it's quite amusing if you think about it.
What's even more amusing is that some paranoids would attach any significance to it.

Well, water seeks its own level & birds of a feather we guess...

You just thought of that by yourself didn't you?
I can tell because it doesn't make any sense.

Well, to those without limited cognitave skills such as yourself it does...

To be frank, I'm an independent with a conservative point of view. Those points you mention are valid and not disputing them. The original issue was Wall St. demonstrators and that's more or less what I've been addressing. The paucity of the demonstrators arguments e.g. gimme a job - I've got a degree in ___ but it's worthless.

Darwin's Law will take over in the end and the fittest will survive.

See the guy in green, what do you think he's doing with his right hand? (considering the smirk on red bandana guys face)
And what's up with the guy on the left?
Too much xanax?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

To be frank, I'm an independent with a conservative point of view.