Would we have been better off if the Romans won... whatever it was they was fightin?

[PlanK]

Think about it...

They had cool outfits, built loads of shit, open to the religious practices of other nations (part of the empire), ate loads of healthy foods.

If the Romans were in charge today we'd all have proper roads, aqueducts, fokking great stadiums, a few slaves to help around the house, and an orgy every second Tuesday. Plus the smelly Celts would all be rounded up and hidden away out of view behind a wall and we'd have peace in the Middle East.

There'd be no more jokes about Italian war heroes, but that's a small price to pay.

[withnallstoke]

They had cool outfits

Cross dressing in a skirt is not cool.

built loads of shit

Exactly.

open to the religious practices of other nations

Depending on the direction of the wind.

ate loads of healthy foods

Pizza?



The Womans ultimate failure was down to being bent. As bwilliant as the aquaduct builders were, they could not and did not procreate as they were far to busy sniffing each others bottoms pwior to penis insertion.
The wemaining Woman weligion of catholicism merely became an amalgamation of all the left over shitty bits (which the Womans liked) from the tree huggers.



When caught in an indecent position, the Woman was known to show both hands simultaneously, palm outwards. A Pwactice the descendents of Wome still adhere to.

[blue]

Don't know about the middle east ,it was the Romans who made the province Palestine ,named so --to annoy the Jews -after the Jews long gone enemy the Philistines .

Romans were very gay too ,we would probably have 8 or 9 HIV type diseases ,rather than the 1 ,that the modern day homosexuals developed

[Lancelot]

Romans were very gay too ,we would probably have 8 or 9 HIV type diseases ,rather than the 1 ,that the modern day homosexuals developed

Maybe it was by design-kept well fare payment to unwed mothers and child support on budget

[DrB0b]

Err, they did win. Where are you from, New Guinea?

[withnallstoke]

Err, they did win.

They did win a few battles, but at the end of the day, most of us don't speak Eyetalian.

[Ciaphas]

Err, they did win.

They did win a few battles, but at the end of the day, most of us don't speak Eyetalian.

But a fair few countries speak a language derived from Latin.

[Stinky]

The Romans got weak and over stretched, they were over run by the Hun, the Goths and the Vandals.
The Vandals being particulaly violent and murderous, prolly where we got the word from?

[blue]

the Romans lost it because they became gayer ,and Italy started importing huge numbers of immigrants-
An immigrant influx, followed by loss of power happened to Britain
and now USA

[withnallstoke]

But a fair few countries speak a language derived from Latin.

Indeed.
The Vatican to name but one.

[DrB0b]

Err, they did win.

They did win a few battles, but at the end of the day, most of us don't speak Eyetalian.

Neither did the Romans.

[Stinky]

the Romans lost it because they became gayer ,and Italy started importing huge numbers of immigrants-
An immigrant influx, followed by loss of power happened to Britain
and now USA

During their hay day half of the roman armys were maned with immigrant stock, they had a decent life in the roman army, got fed got paid and got to kill loads of people.

[DrB0b]

The Romans got weak and over stretched, they were over run by the Hun, the Goths and the Vandals.
The Vandals being particulaly violent and murderous, prolly where we got the word from?

Ahh, right. The western Romans. What's the betting that if most here were asked when the Roman Empire ended they'd be wrong by about 1,000 years?

[Stinky]

Trying to remember from my school years B0b, a long time ago, but about AD400?

Edit; The sacking of Rome that is.

[DrB0b]

^Western Roman Empire, 476. Full stop on the official Roman Empire as a whole was in 1453. In terms of law, religion, culture, and language, the Roman Empire is still alive today.

[Stinky]

Shit at late as that, I had no idea,

A 1000 years out for me too then

[DrB0b]

Shit at late as that, I had no idea,

A 1000 years out for me too then

It's the way we're taught history in school. The way we're taught Roman Empire means Rome the city, the Western Empire. But even before the fall of the city the Emperors had long since moved elsewhere and when Rome fell it was basically a backwater town with a cheap imitation Emperor, the capital of the Empire had already moved to Constantinople in 330. The last Roman Emperor was Constantine XI Paleologos, he died in 1453 after throwing off his robe and crown and jumping into the thick of battle to take on the Turks bare-handed.

[Stinky]

A mine of information you are B0b, very interesting, thanks for that

[withnallstoke]

A mine of information you are B0b

Great to have a member of the forum who was actually there at the time.

[somtamslap]

The last Roman Emperor was Constantine XI Paleologos, he died in 1453 after throwing off his robe and crown and jumping into the thick of battle to take on the Turks bare-handed.

They had coke back in those days as well?

Or was he just a bit simple?

[DrB0b]

A mine of information you are B0b

Great to have a member of the forum who was actually there at the time.

If you're over a certain age so were you. Just a couple of examples. A mile is the distance a Roman soldier (a miles) could cover in 1,000 paces. 1d, old money for one penny, is one denarius, lb as an abbreviation for pound is short for librum, coppers for small money is an english translation of as, the smallest (and biggest) Roman money denomination. Any English speaker is still surrounded by the legacy of the Roman Empire, whether he knows it or not.

You're from Stoke, right? Is that Stoke-on-Trent? A settlement that started at a crossroads on the Roman Road from Derby to Chesterton.

[blue]

Perhaps the Roman empire lives on today , under the banner Roman catholic church

[withnallstoke]

Would we have been better off if the Romans won?

Shorter and straighter of nose would we be,
Bald patches of hair on our heads wouldn't be,
And we wouldn't speak German or half Frongalais,
And instead of a queen we would have a queen B.
And skirts and not shirts
'Cause the truth of it hurts.
The dirty Roman bastards never went away.

And Brighton exists on the coast of Italy,

[DrB0b]

Perhaps the Roman empire lives on today , under the banner Roman catholic church

A tired but accurate comparison. The RC church hierarchy is based on the civil-service reforms of Diocletian (who,ironically, hated Christians). It's religious architecture is based on the Roman State Cult. Take a look sometime at the writing on top of some of the bigger Catholic churches. Deo Omnipotens Maximus was a a slogan long before Xtianity existed. As for God the Father, in Latin that's Deus Pater, Jupiter as we now say it.

[withnallstoke]

You're from Stoke, right? Is that Stoke-on-Trent? A settlement that started at a crossroads on the Roman Road from Derby to Chesterton.

I am indeed from Stoke. A settlement that was conveniently skirted by the Womans on their way twixt Derby and Chesterton.
Newcastle, i believe, is the settlement you are on about?