When will Pakistan or Musharraf fall ?

[HermantheGerman]

What is going on in Pakistan?
Is the Puppet Musharraf ready to fall?
What will happen in that region?
Can peace ever come to Afghanistan with a neighbour like Pakistan?


Pakistan siege underlines terror danger - Manmohan Singh
Thu Jul 5, 2007 8:25 PM IST

By Y.P. Rajesh
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Pakistan's confrontation with militants at a mosque in Islamabad has brought home the dangers of terrorism to that country and India wishes it success in fighting the menace, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Thursday.
Singh's comments came as Pakistan struggled to end the face-off at the Lal Masjid after clashes that began on Tuesday with militant Taliban-style students holed up inside left 19 dead.
Singh told a group of women journalists he wished Pakistan "godspeed in tackling the dangerous situation" arising out of the fighting at the mosque in the national capital, NDTV quoted him as saying.
"Pakistan is seeing terrorism for the first time. What is happening in Pakistan, thinking people have realised fundamentalism is perverse and dangerous to society," the Press Trust of India news agency quoted him as saying.
India has long accused Pakistan of aiding and fomenting separatist militants fighting New Delhi's rule in Kashmir and launching attacks elsewhere across the country.
http://in.today.reuters.com/news/new...archived=False




Pakistan forces blow holes in mosque’s walls
Fears mounting that women and children are being used as human shields

MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:23 a.m. ET July 5, 2007
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistani security forces blew holes in the outer walls of a mosque on Thursday where hundreds of militant Muslim students have been holed up in a stand-off with authorities for three days, security officials said.
Smoke was rising from the compound housing the Red Mosque and a girls' madrasa in Islamabad following several explosions early Thursday evening. A fierce gunbattle was also heard.
Journalists at the scene saw some troops being moved, but no sign that an assault was imminent. The captured leader of the Taliban-style movement said earlier that there were around 850 students in the mosque, including 600 women. The government says some women and children were being used as human shields.
Explosion near Pakistan mosque - South and Central Asia - MSNBC.com

[sabang]

Looks like Pakistan might fall before Saudi.

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Well that's convinced me, Musharraf is doomed!

[HermantheGerman]

^
Better ?

I'am afraid not only Musharaff is doomed...the whole region will be.

[sabang]

Dunno, Paki has nukes.

[Mr Earl]

Seems pretty ignorant to think a few idealistic Alqueada inspired fanatics will topple the government of Pakistan.

Seems to me it illustrates how desperate these fanatics are. Using women and children as shields.
Herman didn't you note that they captured their leader sneaking away dressed in a burka.

[attaboy]

[phunphin]

lndia is about to gain a new land fill, now what to do about all those rats??.

[HermantheGerman]

Seems pretty ignorant to think a few idealistic Alqueada inspired fanatics will topple the government of Pakistan.

Seems to me it illustrates how desperate these fanatics are. Using women and children as shields.
Herman didn't you note that they captured their leader sneaking away dressed in a burka.

Yes, I read about it. But then again it is nothing new that these fearless fighters hide behind women and children and hide in the most holiest place....a mosque.
This fearless-big-mouth muslim fighter was dressed to kill like a woman.
Maulana Masood Azhar

[machangezi]

This bastard should have been shot the time he was caught under burqa.

By the way, those nutters ain't using women and children as human shields as reported by western media. As I know there were women and children in the mosque the time things went shitty. What the numnuts did is kept the women and children in rooms. Not sure to use them as a tool to negotiate with the gov't or use them as human shields.

Sometimes it's wise to read Asian news papers.

[Little Chuchok]

^How do you know that the Asian papers are on the money????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

[obsidian]

pakistan will fall 5 minutes after the usa stiffs it and quits supporting it as the lesser of multiple evils.

[machangezi]

^How do you know that the Asian papers are on the money????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

Paki papers have published interviews of the nutters who surrendered.

[machangezi]

pakistan will fall 5 minutes after the usa stiffs it and quits supporting it as the lesser of multiple evils.

Pakland an evil?

[Little Chuchok]

^How do you know that the Asian papers are on the money????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

Paki papers have published interviews of the nutters who surrendered.

And u believe that?Almost as bad as the cocks that believe Fox.

[machangezi]

So you mean I should believe in what fox's reporting - that they are using women and children as human shields?

[Little Chuchok]

Well they probably are,but I don't believe either side....

[machangezi]

Lets put it this way. Women and children willingly went to the mosque. They are mentally prepared for martyrdom. What difference does it make if they are killed?

No bystander or innocent civilians have been pulled inside the mosque. They all went their on their own will to support their fanatic borthers.

We don't give a rats arse if they are killed. We don't need numnuts among us and fuckwits who keep on running their mouth without knowing shit.

[Little Chuchok]

^Nice.

[obsidian]

kids are innocent. this jonestown shit is fucked up.

[machangezi]

Those humanshields, as the western media refer to them, were inspired by the fucking fatwas from those to fuckwit brothers and they pledged to sacrifice their lives in a situation like this.

Let them be used as human shields. The gov't gave them ample time to surrender or walk out of the mosque but they preferred to stay.

[machangezi]

kids are innocent

No they are not. The same fucking kids will grow under mullah's supervision. They will be brainwashed throught their fucking lives. They will then become what we all fear. They will be the one hating you westerners and bringing bad name to us.

A bullet from a ten year old is as effective as from a fourty year old ofter more effective.

[obsidian]

keep the kids out of the fray. its tactical to use them. maybe even effective. but it aint a right thing.

kill/use the women like any other combatant if thats what they choose. but keep the kids out. basic shit. how the fuck can a country/movement/religion expect to be perceived as governable if they are fucking using the kids as little more than tactical objects. it aint fuckin right. i think most muslims would agree. fuck everyones god equally. if you arnt fightin for the kids -- then whats to point.

[machangezi]

The right thing? Since when the world started thinking about right things? It wasn't right to occupy Iraq. It wasn't right to make a Jewish state in the middle of Muslims. It wasn't right for the US to support Mujahideens (later on called as Talibans). So a little bit of blunders in Pakland is A OK.

[machangezi]

Let me tell you something interesting. From the time all this shit started, probably 6 months ago, I was waiting with my fingers crossed for this moment. If I were the president of Pakistan, I would use chemical weapons and wouldn't even leave bacteria to survive in that mosque forget the children.