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    rudy, judy, bernie....and fox news

    i thought about putting this on the giuliani thread, but this thread, but IMO this topic is worthy of its own thread.

    a little background...

    when presidential aspirant rudy giuliani was mayor or NYC, his right hand man was bernard kerik. so much so that rudy name bernie police commissioner in 2000.

    after 9/11 rudy became a folk hero who suddenly had a lot of 'war on terror' credibility in the media...and in washington.

    in 2004 GWB was looking for a secretary of homeland security, and rudy recommended bernie. but there was a problem....bernie didn't even come close to passing the FBI background check.

    there were serious allegations that he was involved in insider trading, that he was having at least 2 adulterous affairs, and perhaps most damningly that me may have been 'mobbed up'.

    and the most shocking aspect of these findings is that rudy was warned about these alleged activities....but he still recommended bernie for the job of director of homeland security.
    after the president, this is the position that is supposed to protect the american people from terrorism....and rudy nominated a guy who may have had mafia connections. for a candidate that is basing his entire campaign as the only person who can keep america safe, this raises serious questions about his campaign.

    now then, while bernie's name was being floated for the position, executives at newscorp (parent company of foxnews) were panicked that details of bernie's adulterous affair with one of their executives would come to light. the woman in question was editor/publisher judith regan. btw, here's a nice little tidbit...kerik and regan had their illicit liaisons in an apartment that was donated for 9/11 rescue workers.

    regan has claimed in a recent lawsuit that newscorp executives asked her to lie to federal investigators about he affair...and she says she has it all on tape.

    so, what's the connection between rudy and fox news? why would they care about this?

    well, rudy and fox news president roger ailes go way back. ailes worked on rudy's mayoral campaign back in 1989, and rudy put the screws to time warner cable in 1996 to make sure fox news got on their cable system. and oh yeah...rudy officiated at ailes wedding.


    one would think that this would end rudy's campaign, right?


    Publisher says she was told to lie to protect Giuliani - CNN.com
    Giuliani ally Kerik indicted - Politics - MSNBC.com
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/02/us...in&oref=slogin
    The Associated Press: Analysis: Kerik Could Tarnish Giuliani
    Roger Ailes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Judith Regan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Bernard Kerik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    At least Bernie's not Gay, which makes a change in the GOP.
    Merely corrupt, adulterous and mendacious. What a party.

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    another raycarey thread w/no legs...

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    nothing wrong with being ahead of the curve....

    later next year rudy will quite probably have won the nomination.....bernie will be on trial for corruption.....and judy will be airing newscorp's dirty laundry. heh.

    this thread is just getting started.

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    anyone who would want to vote for that guy would need to be shot, the guy is as bad as Hanoi McCain

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    rudy is a fool, kerik is a crook and ray carey has the eyes of a goat.

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    actually, i don't. but they are available for under ten dollars...

    http://www.taxidermy.com/cat/08/art/ME256.jpg



    are you and diaw co-habitating yet? if so, i'll send some over as a house warming present. it is my hope that you two are still happy together and that you've found more in common with one another than the fact that phil broke both your hearts.



    now then, let's get back on topic....

    here's rudy's reponse to reporters regarding the judy's allegations that a newscorp executive (conventional wisdom is that it was ailes) presured her to lie to the FBI....

    "I don't respond to the story at all. I don't know anything about it. And, it sounds to me like a kind of gossip column story more than a real story,"
    when asked again, he responded...

    "I think that's a gossip column story, and the last thing in the world you want to do when you're running for president is respond to gossip column type stories."
    good luck with that defense rudy!

    The Associated Press: Giuliani Dismisses Kerik Questions

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    yet another connection between rudy and fox news...

    In 2005, which should be 3 ½ years after the end of his mayoralty administration, Giuliani joined a law and lobbying firm that was called Bracewell and Patterson and was renamed Bracewell and Giuliani to reflect the new business partnership. And according to congressional lobbying disclosure records first reported today by Salon.com, Bracewell and Giuliani received $120,000 from subsidiaries of News Corp for work that very first year. Giuliani‘s firm apparently lobbied Congress during the rewrite of the Telecom Act and on issues including Federal regulations on violence in programming. And what‘s so interesting, Keith, is in the pre-Giuliani years when the firm was Bracewell and Patterson, congressional records show it did no lobbying for News Corp and apparently didn‘t receive any money from News Corps or its subsidiaries.
    'Countdown with Keith Olbermann' for Nov. 15 - Countdown with Keith Olbermann - MSNBC.com

    the above is a transcript from a news analysis program that IMO is decidedly anti-giuliani...however, the numbers (i.e. $$) don't lie .

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    newscorp settled out of court with regan. some are estimating the settlement is in the neighborhood of $25 million.

    Wall Street Journal.com

    and on a related note, giuliani's campain is toast.

    a good day all around.

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    Anyone who watches Keith Olberman has the grey matter of a turnip...

    Rudi is dropping out today so, like I said before - no legs...

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