Russian Navy Captures Somalian Pirates

[jojo333]

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALIAN PIRATES.

http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

This videotape shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate
ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The
EuroUnion navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because
they feared there could be casualties.

All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a
wounded pirate says something in English and a Russian says "Why are
you lying to me? This is not a fishing boat". All conversations
between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand
Russian, the pictures speak for themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots, moved all the pirates to
their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and
explosives, and then they left the ship and exploded it with all
remaining pirates on it.

The commandos sunk the pirate ship along with the pirates and
without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of
the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates.
Usually, they were hung.

I think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali
pirates.

[aging one]

Great job they did, and they did it the right way.

[mr Fred]

bit harsh but they won't be fucking with the russians again so a bit hard to
argue with what happened

[Stinky]

It's always nice to see these pirates getting some payback. Doubt it will stop them though

[Jet Gorgon]

^^ A bit harsh, mr fred? WTF? Those pirates would have hacked you to death just for fun while you pleased your pansy a** off.
Nice going, Russia! At least one country still gets the job done.

[Cujo]

^^ A bit harsh, mr fred? WTF? Those pirates would have hacked you to death just for fun while you pleased your pansy a** off.
Nice going, Russia! At least one country still gets the job done.

Actually the pirates have been remarkably restrained with regards to violence. They've hurt very few people.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Oh, really? Somali pirates kill captain, kill hostage, kill Yemeni fisherman (oh, who cares, he's only Yemeni, right?)
google: somali pirates kill
Beg to differ Dug. Besides the folks they kill on the high seas, how about the local Somali residents they rape, torture, starve and kill?

[SunTzu]

Doubt it will stop them though

They're hungry, they got decades of civil war for childhood memories, they got weapons, no other prospects. I doubt they stop as well.

Nice going, Russia! At least one country still gets the job done.

They aint got libbies or hippies there. why don't you go live in paradise, then ?

[Dilligaf]

SunTzu , with a name like that you should understand the art of war.

[jandajoy]

Sorry about this but I think the killing of the pirates was deplorable. The fact that they may or may not have killed others is besides the point.

They had been captured, they were completely submissive. Enacting an 18-19th century law seems to me to be barbaric.

Why could they not have been detained, shipped to Russia, or wherever, prosecuted and jailed?



p.s. I think the Russian action will escalate the violence.

[Stinky]

Doubt it will stop them though

They're hungry, they got decades of civil war for childhood memories, they got weapons, no other prospects. I doubt they stop as well.

I know an appreciate where you're coming from, there is little hope for these guys I know, but it's not just cargo vessels the pirates target and when I see images and read story's like these of Rachel and Paul Chandler who were captured and help hostage by pirates just like these my sympathy wanes pretty fast.


MailOnlie Last updated at 11:51 PM on 8th March 2010

The British couple kidnapped by Somali pirates have been reunited and could be released soon, it was claimed yesterday.
For two months, Paul and Rachel Chandler have been held in separate tented camps and allowed to talk to each other only briefly on a few occasions.
But Dr Mohamed Elmi Hangul, who treated the pair last month, said the couple were reunited on Sunday.

Together: Paul Chandler (being treated by Dr Mohamed Elmi Hangul) and his wife Rachel, both pictured last month, have been reunited after spending weeks apart

He also said their health was so bad that they could die without medicine - but the move to reunite them suggested their release was imminent.
Dr Hangul told the Mail: 'These people could die on their [the pirates'] hands. The situation is very bad. I think they will be released soon.'
The pirates have demanded £1.3million for the Chandlers' release but the family do not have the money and the British Government does not pay kidnappers.

Plight: The Chandlers, pictured before being captured, are suffering from ill health

Pain: Mrs Chandler begs for help in a November video as pirates point guns at her

Dr Hangul said: ‘The hostages are suffering from diseases... Paul was suffering just pain and coughs and (Rachel) Chandler was suffering from mental disorders, especially restlessness, palpitations and she was very anxious, because she was worrying about the separation between her and her husband.
‘A new case of eye infection emerged later, (the pirates) informed me by telephone that Paul was taking eye drops, Paul told me that he finished the eye drops,’ he said.
He has not seen the Chandlers since.
The Chandlers are highest-profile of more than 130 sailors held captive on the Somali coast.
The couple's plight has garnered more attention than that of hostages from developing countries such as India and the Philippines, who make up the bulk of the captives.
Five days the pair were given a glimmer of hope after a member of the Somali government claimed negotiations for their release were progressing rapidly and promised they would be freed 'within ten days'.

The Lynn Rival: The yacht the Chandlers were captured during their sailing voyage

Professor Mohamed Omar Dalha, deputy speaker of the parliament, said the pirates are on the brink of backing down and releasing the Chandlers on compassionate grounds.
But because the government has only limited control outside of the capital Mogadishu, they must rely on the pirates’ willingness to talk.
'We have sent a representative to Haradheere [the district of Somalia where the Chandlers are being held] and for the past week talks with the pirates have been going on day and night,' said Professor Dalha on Friday.
'We are appealing to them through their traditional and religious leaders, as well as their own brothers and sisters - people they know and trust - and at last they are listening.


Read more: British yacht couple Paul and Rachel Chandler held by Somali pirates 'temporarily reunited' | Mail Online

[ItsRobsLife]

Live by the sword, die by the sword. I'm sure the pirates bosses have got YouTube.
From now on I think they will stay well clear of Russian ships.

[jandajoy]

From now on I think they will stay well clear of Russian ships.

Doubt that.

Doubt they really care what nationality ship they attack.

I'm pretty sure they'll be a lot more "positive" in their treatment of their captives from now on.

The pirates killed will have friends and relatives. They will see the writing on the wall.

KILL.

I say again, it was a mistake.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ I agree with Robski on this one. You think they will treat prisoners better now, JJ? You had a look at what goes on with the people in Somalia the past few years? These pirates are only out for the money to support their militias and they steal all the aid shipped in for the people. Please wake up.
I'm with the Russians.

JJ, I want you to sit back and watch Blackhawk Down.

[jandajoy]

Please wake up.

So in your view 2 wrongs make a right.

This is based on you extensive experience in 3rd. world counties, is it.

Your personal knowledge of Africa and the deprivations and customs therein.

You've obviously worked in Africa or you wouldn't be so sure of your self.

Tell me, pray, what and where you you worked to gain such insight.

Sabre rattling tends to end up injuring the inexperienced.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Nope. But, why don't you start ranting about the Chinese in the Sudan or how the UN kinda forgot those folks.
I would help those people, not the thugs and pirates who are only out for money.
Watch Blackhawk Down.

[panama hat]

I doubt it will make a difference as most ships fly flags of convenience and the only way the pirates could tell where the ship may be from is the name.

Watch Blackhawk Down.

Excellent movie. Almost as good as the real thing, must be. Especially the part where Muslim soldiers saved the American's arses. (In reality they were Malaysian forces but Hollywood changed them to Pakistanis)

[jandajoy]

But, why don't you start ranting about the Chinese in the Sudan or how the UN kinda forgot those folks.

Hmm. interesting.

First off, I don't really think I'm ranting. Do you think I am? Odd.

Secondly, FYI, I worked Sudan/Dafur in 84 - 85.

We used to bury up to 400 a day, mostly children, in communal graves at each of our 12 refugee camps.

Not something I'll forget.

Watch Blackhawk Down.

You're a joke Jet. I'm sorry but you really have no idea.

You keep watching movies and wallow in your silly little ideas of life. Hey, you can always ask Oprah if things get too complicated.

[Norgy]

Ex-Soviet weapons nonetheless...

Whichever way you look at it, the three countries taking a 'heavy-handed' approach like this to pirates/kidnappers seem to be Russia, France and Israel.

[jandajoy]

Ex-Soviet weapons nonetheless...

What? the pirates weapons? The most commonly available weapons on the planet.

Mostly NOT Soviet made.

Do a bit of research , mate.

[mr Fred]

Watch Blackhawk Down.

You must be joking. The Yanks fucked up big style over there but still manage to show them as brave defenders in a US military sponsored film.

It's a Pentagon funded propaganda film. Try googling that.

[jandajoy]

JJ, I want you to sit back and watch Blackhawk Down.

I apologise in advance cos I try to avoid the little contretemps you folk have in Issues, but I'm forced to make a comment.

Are you seriously basing the major core of your argument on the basis of a "Hollywood" movie?

Honestly, and I've got nothing against Americans, Canadians, pseudo Americans, or anyone else for that matter, but, I despair for a world where people believe that Hollywood is reality and Arnie/Sylvestor will save them.

Please, get a fucking life.

[Jet Gorgon]

FYI, I worked Sudan/Dafur in 84 - 85.
We used to bury up to 400 a day, mostly children, in communal graves at each of our 12 refugee camps.
Not something I'll forget.

Truly sorry to hear that. Why did they die? No aid from the Arab nations or the UN? And yet you think pirates, killers and the scum that kill defenseless people should be treated equally? OK, treat them equally -- kill them.

I have not seen death on the scale that you have. But, I know from the military folk I connect with each day what they go through. They think Blackhawk Down is an apt portrayal of what really happened in Somalia. For civilian folks, it is an OK rendition of the truth.

I contribute to the troops and thank God each day for their protection and their being the vanguard of our freedom.

If militias stormed your home, raped your wife, killed your family, would you beg the police (if they ever came) to give them mercy?

[Norgy]

Ex-Soviet weapons nonetheless...

What? the pirates weapons? The most commonly available weapons on the planet.

Mostly NOT Soviet made.

Do a bit of research , mate.

Fairly sure most of the government weapons were bought/leased directly from the Soviet Union or Warsaw Pact countries (Czechoslovakia).

Somalia

[jandajoy]

You're in a Hollywood dream world kiddo. Sad but true.
Warped by the media and the brain washing of the idols you pursue.

I wish you luck and will say no more on the subject.

Gotta feed the dog.

Cheers.