The great global warming collapse

[Mr Earl]

There are many excellent reasons to reduce greenhouse gasses.
GW is not one of them.

These glaciers provide the headwaters for Asia's nine largest rivers and lifelines for the more than one billion people who live downstream. Melting ice and snow would create mass flooding, followed by mass drought. The glacier story was reported around the world. Last December, a spokesman for the World Wildlife Fund, an environmental pressure group, warned, “The deal reached at Copenhagen will have huge ramifications for the lives of hundreds of millions of people who are already highly vulnerable due to widespread poverty.” To dramatize their country's plight, Nepal's top politicians strapped on oxygen tanks and held a cabinet meeting on Mount Everest.
But the claim was rubbish, and the world's top glaciologists knew it. It was based not on rigorously peer-reviewed science but on an anecdotal report by the WWF itself. When its background came to light on the eve of Copenhagen, Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the IPCC, shrugged it off. But now, even leading scientists and environmental groups admit the IPCC is facing a crisis of credibility that makes the Climategate affair look like small change.

If anything as this article states the media generated hysteria actually does a disservice to the valid environmental/political concerns.

[DaffyDuck]

Nothing surprising - they were able to fool a lot of the people for a lot longer than they should, so it was just a matter of time until the house of cards would collapse.

Of course, the fact that it kept getting colder during 'global warming' sure didn't help the morons and the idiots who fell in line behind them...

[AjarnJonesy]

There are many excellent reasons to reduce greenhouse gasses.
GW is not one of them.

These glaciers provide the headwaters for Asia's nine largest rivers and lifelines for the more than one billion people who live downstream. Melting ice and snow would create mass flooding, followed by mass drought. The glacier story was reported around the world. Last December, a spokesman for the World Wildlife Fund, an environmental pressure group, warned, “The deal reached at Copenhagen will have huge ramifications for the lives of hundreds of millions of people who are already highly vulnerable due to widespread poverty.” To dramatize their country's plight, Nepal's top politicians strapped on oxygen tanks and held a cabinet meeting on Mount Everest.
But the claim was rubbish, and the world's top glaciologists knew it. It was based not on rigorously peer-reviewed science but on an anecdotal report by the WWF itself. When its background came to light on the eve of Copenhagen, Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the IPCC, shrugged it off. But now, even leading scientists and environmental groups admit the IPCC is facing a crisis of credibility that makes the Climategate affair look like small change.

If anything as this article states the media generated hysteria actually does a disservice to the valid environmental/political concerns.

WOW> So Monckton has been telling more truth than Oinky Gore and spank monkey???? I am truely shocked....:

[Aguda]

Same old same old. The news outlets will latch onto anything they hope will sell advertisements and build up the public outcry with nary a care for the actual facts.
The truth seldom has much to do with the trash they peddle.

[smeden]

once in a time there was a big meeting where the whole world was present in copenhagen to discus global warming and how to stop the global warming as i se it it help we have the coldest winter for 14 years so dont say a meating dont help

[Aguda]

Good one Smeden, I like the instant results they got.

[ItsRobsLife]

[PlanK]

Gonna need some GW to help produce enough food for this planet's growing population. Let's start by burning down Al Gore's house, get a bit of CO2 into the atmosphere.

[smeden]

Good one Smeden, I like the instant results they got.

maybe but i guess you are not here in denmark? i can tell you it is fucking cold here

[Aguda]

No, I am not in Denmark, but it is cold here in Georgia, USA. The houses aren't insulated as well as they are in the north. My heating bill last month was triple what it was January of last year. We had 3 or 4 weeks of temps of 20-25 degrees F ( -6.5 to -4.00 C) . Not cold as hell by the Danish winter but frigid for the thin southern blood.

[smeden]

No, I am not in Denmark, but it is cold here in Georgia, USA. The houses aren't insulated as well as they are in the north. My heating bill last month was triple what it was January of last year. We had 3 or 4 weeks of temps of 20-25 degrees F ( -6.5 to -4.00 C) . Not cold as hell by the Danish winter but frigid for the thin southern blood.

rigth now the temp is -10 degre cel and snowing the clock is 2 in the morning in denmark now

[Nawty]

Anyone who thinks global warming is a myth is a fool.

You cannot be doing to the planet what we are doing in the last 50 years even and not expect a change.

take a look at the extra space taken up by massive buildings, they all displace the air that was in its place prior. That air has to go somewhere, it expands the atmosphere and makes it thinner from its stretching. This lets in more solar rays and is heating the planet in addition to all the co2 being released and prohibited from being absorbed from deforestation.

Added to the problem is the weight expansion of people population and the weight increase of obese people across the globe, particulalry Americans. All this puts pressure on the atmosphere and expansion.

Just think about it....it has to go somewhere right ? and all of this was not around 50/100 years ago.

It is FACT.

[chassamui]

My heating bill last month was triple what it was January of last year.

My electric bill doubled in the last month, but i reckon that's the Gfs love of air con. When i mentioned my theory, she just smiled and said come back to bed.

[slackula]

Gore

Al Gore

I don't understand why everybody goes on about Gore.

If you were going to criticise a football team would you direct your criticism at the cheerleaders?

[Mr Earl]

It's been confirmed!

THE ICE AGE HAS ARRIVED

[britmaveric]

^indeed it has, however not global warming anymore. The loons have started advocating Climate Change.

[ItsRobsLife]

It's been confirmed!

THE ICE AGE HAS ARRIVED

The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in
Meltdown expected, the wheat is growing thin
Engines stop running, but I have no fear
Cause London is drowning - I, I live by the river

[Cenovis]

There goes the hope of a tropical Switzerland then....

[Boon Mee]

We dodged a bullet when the Copenhagen farce collapsed. But so long as there is freedom, Moonbats will attempt to snuff it out — and radicals still control our government...

[sabang]

Communist Obama Marxist Socialist.

Any wonder why i won't be wasting eight minutes watching that Youtube?

[AjarnJonesy]

Gore

Al Gore

I don't understand why everybody goes on about Gore.

If you were going to criticise a football team would you direct your criticism at the cheerleaders?

Hmm sorry man but seems like he was the one who won the snobel for his *efforts* regarding global warming...

And if I recall according to the US Congress website Gore was the one who testified about the *dangers* of global warming....

However when I watch a football game I prefer prefer the cheerleaders... But hey if you like watching men then good for you man..


http://www.wearevikingsfans.com/User...eerleaders.jpg

[Belepheron]

take a look at the extra space taken up by massive buildings, they all displace the air that was in its place prior. That air has to go somewhere, it expands the atmosphere and makes it thinner from its stretching. This lets in more solar rays and is heating the planet in addition to all the co2 being released and prohibited from being absorbed from deforestation.

Nice try Basil, but the volume of air taken up by every man made structure on Earth even assuming, as you obviously do, that the interiors are a perfect vacuum is infintesimally minute compared with the volume of air that the atmosphere contains.

But don't worry, with airhead thinking like that you can always get a job as the IPCC's top climatologist.

[ItsRobsLife]

But cities do create local climate change, and there's plenty of them, butterfly wings and all that...

[S Landreth]

Nice try Basil, but the volume of air taken up by every man made structure on Earth even assuming, as you obviously do, that the interiors are a perfect vacuum is infintesimally minute compared with the volume of air that the atmosphere contains.

But don't worry, with airhead thinking like that you can always get a job as the IPCC's top climatologist.

[barbaro]

It's a fact that the Earth is warming.

The debate is whether humans are causing it to a certain degree or large degree.

Or, is the current warming just a cycle of the Earth, and humans are not a factor.

But there have been false claims on both sides of the issue, and misinformation disseminated.

Here's a NASA study.

Past Decade Warmest on Record, NASA Data Shows

By JOHN M. BRODER
The New York Times
January 22, 2010

WASHINGTON — The decade ending in 2009 was the warmest on record, new surface temperature figures released Thursday by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration show.

The agency also found that 2009 was the second warmest year since 1880, when modern temperature measurement began. The warmest year was 2005. The other hottest recorded years have all occurred since 1998, NASA said.

James E. Hansen, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, said that global temperatures varied because of changes in ocean heating and cooling cycles. “When we average temperature over 5 or 10 years to minimize that variability,” said Dr. Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists, “we find global warming is continuing unabated.”

A separate preliminary analysis from the National Climatic Data Center, a unit of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, found that 2009 tied with 2006 as the fifth warmest year on record, based on measurements taken on land and at sea. The data center report, published earlier this week, also cited the years 2000 to 2009 as the warmest decade ever measured. The new temperature figures provide evidence in the scientific discussion of global warming but are not likely to be the last word on whether the planet’s temperature is on a consistent upward path.

Dr. Hansen, who has been an outspoken figure in the climate debate for years, has often been attacked by skeptics of global warming for what they charge is selective use of temperature data. The question of whether the planet is heating and how quickly was at the heart of the so-called “climategate” controversy that arose last fall when hundreds of e-mail messages from the climate study unit at the University of East Anglia in England were released without authorization.

Critics seized on the messages as evidence that, in their view, climate scientists were manipulating data and colluding to keep contrary opinion out of scientific journals. But climate scientists and political leaders affirmed what they called a broad-based consensus that the planet was growing warmer, and on a consistent basis, although with measurable year-to-year variations.

The NASA data released Thursday showed an upward temperature trend of about 0.36 degrees Fahrenheit (0.2 degrees Celsius) per decade over the past 30 years. Average global temperatures have risen by about 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degrees Celsius) since 1880.

“That’s the important number to keep in mind,” said Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist at Goddard. “The difference between the second and sixth warmest years is trivial because the known uncertainty in the temperature measurement is larger than some of the differences between the warmest years.”

Policy makers at the United Nations climate change summit conference in Copenhagen last month agreed on a goal of trying to keep the rise in average global temperatures to 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit, or 2 degrees Celsius, to try to forestall the worst effects of global warming.

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Link: Past Decade Warmest on Record, NASA Data Shows - NYTimes.com