Help Burma - Boycott China (from CL)

[ceburat]

As has been said many times here on Teakdoor and elsewhere We can do nothing that is PC to help the Burmese people. So be it then. We just wait and let the UN do their thing, what ever that is.

However, we and the people of this world can take action that will open Chin's eyes and change their attitude and force them to stand up like real people and help their neighbor Burma.

Write to every politician you can. Write to all of your friends and encourage them to write to their friends. BOYCOTT THE OLYMPIC GAMES. DO NOT PARTICIPATE OR ATTEND THE OLYMPIC GAMES. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING MADE IN OR FROM OR BY CHINA. DO NOT TRAVEL TO CHINA. CUT THE FUNDS UNTILL THEY CUT THE BS.

[Mid]

China doesn't have heart for those who had been killed by junta
Tuesday, 9 October 2007

We could see what china said on the UNSC meeting on monday (08 Oct 2007). See the news at below.

We need to organize the people all over the world to boycott the bloody china Olympic. I would like to request to people; if you have any idea of what we can do effectively.

Please ... advice us.

Shall we work together and show to CHINA what is the real power of people all over the world?

ko-htike.blogspot.com






ko-htike was one of the main information conduits whilst the internet was connected .

[Mid]

Chinese Blogger War Over Burma
New America Media, Commentary, Jun Wang, Posted: Oct 09, 2007

Editor’s Note: Chinese bloggers from the older pro-democracy generation and younger, nationalist commentators come to a head when discussing Burma’s democracy struggle on the Internet. NAM contributor Jun Wang recently graduated from the Graduate School of Journalism at U.C. Berkeley. She worked as a correspondent for the Xinhua News Agency in China and Egypt.

Chinese people weighing in on the Internet are split over the conflict in Burma, with democracy activists furious over the government crackdown and nationalists protesting that China has no role to play in quelling the conflict.

snip

newamericamedia.org



considering the LACK OF coverage in Chinese mainstream media this is encouraging .

[Lily]

What absolute rubbish!

Tell the American, Australian, British and French companies that are firmly entrenched in Burma to get out, before you go telling China what they must do.

What freaking hypocracy!

[watterinja]

^ Your post is absolute rubbish.

[Lily]

^As you are!

[Jet Gorgon]

^ True, Lily. But China totally ignores human rights in favour of what it wants, and is thinking decades from now for its resources. Human rights? None in China and they don't care about it anywhere its concerns operate, that's for sure. References: the Sudan or anywhere Chinese concerns have laid a stake in Africa or anywhere corrupt/impoverished with lots of natural resources.

[Marmite the Dog]

Tell the American, Australian, British and French companies that are firmly entrenched in Burma to get out, before you go telling China what they must do.

Nonsense.

[Mid]

What absolute rubbish!

Tell the American, Australian, British and French companies that are firmly entrenched in Burma to get out, before you go telling China what they must do.

What freaking hypocracy!

a ) you forgot Thailand , if your a local a large part of your electric bill goes to the junta .

b ) the companies in the countries you mentioned are being targeted .

c ) this is China's Achilles heal and many have no qualms exploiting it , moi included .

[Lily]

Nonsense.

Why is that nonsense, if we are going to hold China responsible?

[stroller]

Write to every politician you can. Write to all of your friends and encourage them to write to their friends. BOYCOTT THE OLYMPIC GAMES. DO NOT PARTICIPATE OR ATTEND THE OLYMPIC GAMES. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING MADE IN OR FROM OR BY CHINA. DO NOT TRAVEL TO CHINA. CUT THE FUNDS UNTILL THEY CUT THE BS.

That's a very PC suggestion, ceburat - well done!

[Mid]

to hold China responsible?

for watering down the UN's response ......... it's a given .

[Marmite the Dog]

Nonsense.

Why is that nonsense, if we are going to hold China responsible?

Because no other organisation other than the Chinese government has any influence over the Burmese dictatorship. If all of the western companies said cheerio, all that would happen is that the Burmese & Chinks would take over those concerns for themselves.

[Lily]

If all of the western companies said cheerio, all that would happen is that the Burmese & Chinks would take over those concerns for themselves.

So, is it ethics we are talking about or commerce?

We can hardly insist on China doing the ethical thing (a nation not know for its ethics) while western companies continue to trade and benefit.
It is the western countries who are so proud of their human rights and ethics.

I am not saying that China should do nothing, but they are not alone there.

[stroller]

The only effective route of influence is via China at present, is what's being said.

[Lily]

^And also convenient for the west.

Truly, do you think no pressure should be put on Chevron and the other big companies that are there?

[Mid]

of course it should be ,

in addittion , and IS already happening .





In response to calls from Burma’s democracy movement, the Burma Campaign UK and other campaign groups around the world have been pressuring companies to sever business ties with Burma.

Please contact one or more of the companies on the Dirty List and ask them to cut their ties with Burma’s military government. If appropriate, tell them you will not purchase their products as long as they continue to support the regime in Burma.

Letters written in your own words are most effective. If you don’t have much time, don’t worry - just one or two paragraphs will do. Please be polite!

We would be grateful if you could send us a copy of any responses you receive.

[Marmite the Dog]

The only effective route of influence is via China at present, is what's being said.

Lily doesn't like to comprehend the obvious.

[stroller]

^
Yes, that's another PC-thing to do, boycott or pressurise those companies.
For a UN perspective and what they do, some excellent comments here:
https://teakdoor.com/issues/19386-bur...tml#post419141

[Lily]

Lily doesn't like to comprehend the obvious.

And Marmite is highly offended if a woman has an opinion. Right Marmite?

An opinion. That is what your view is, and no more valid than mine.

[Some thing]

Of course you're right Lily. Where does Burma get it's money from? It's massive export trade?

Take Burma out around the legs and it IS happening but very slowely Marriot HotelsTriumph International, Accor Hotels and Premier Oil. British American Tobacco's but there are many who probably aren't going to go at all no matter how much pressure is applied, Caterpillar (USA), China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC), China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), Daewoo International Corporation (Korea), Siemens (Germany), Gas Authority of India (GAIL), GlaxoSmithKline (UK ), Hyundai (Korea), ONGC Videsh Ltd (India), Swift (Belgium), and Total (France).

Take out the props that are holding the Junta up, or perhaps the UN should send another envoy.

[Mid]

Trapped Inside The Orwellian Police State Of Myanmar
By Scott Bates Published on 10/10/2007

In the lead-up to the 2008 Beijing Olympics, the Chinese regime is conscious of its public image. Raising the issue of China's support for Burma's repressive regime would raise China's cost of doing business with tryants in Rangoon.


snip

China is the sole lifeline left for the Burmese military regime. The regime still ships its people, precious gems and timber to China in return for the weapons that keep them in power. A plan for supporting democratic change in Burma must focus on affecting a change in Chinese support of the military dictatorship in Burma.

snip

Scott Bates is vice president for the Center for National Policy, a non-partisan think tank based in Washington, D.C. He is a resident of Stonington Borough, where he serves as police commissioner

theday.com

..................

a growing groundswell of support ??

[blackgang]

^How very true, without China Burma can not function, and china does not want a democracy on her borders.
So the Olympics are the only hold that anyone has on China.

Lily is pobly worried that the hookers will not get their money..Cheuvanist Bastards that they are..

[Marmite the Dog]

And Marmite is highly offended if a woman has an opinion. Right Marmite?

Not at all. But you consistently only read what you want to see and 90% of the time completely miscomprehend what is written.

[pugforever]

The only effective route of influence is via China at present, is what's being said.

seems impossible task. seeing how chinese government reacted in tiananmen square protest in 1989, why would china give a shite on democracy and human rights in burma?

the nation tv programme broadcasted a few nights ago the interview of 3 ambassadors in thailand about the situation in burma and how they see it. mr.boyce from the states, mr.quale from uk and mr.idon'tcarethefuk from china, all interviewed by sutthichai yoon. shot with the question how china government see what they can do to ease the problem, the response from mr.chinese was " the burmese citizen shall themselves find the solution soon"....

thai government also seems reluctant to act on the issue. they claimed that it might affect the relationship between thailand and burma, we are very closed neighbour and connected by long border. the security issue is the concern of thai government as well as the economic one. we still need natural gas from burma. billions are paid for that every year which means it makes the junta even stronger.

imo, the best way to end this unfair game is cutting off the vein that supports burma army government. china and thai government know how, but they wouldn't do cos it means losing their blood too.