Is the UK a threat to American Security

[Propagator]

The following was from the Daily Telegraph of 29.08.06. Does this mean that the US is unhappy with our policies and wants to control them. Or is it some people just trying to throw some more coal on the fire?




Britain 'is now biggest security threat to US'
By Francis Harris in Washington

(Filed: 29/08/2006)




Britain now presents a greater security threat to the United States than Iran or Iraq, an American magazine said yesterday.
In an article on Islamists headlined "Kashmir on the Thames", the New Republic painted Britain's Muslim communities as a breeding ground for violent extremism.
Citing recent opinion poll evidence suggesting that one in four British Muslims believed that last year's London Tube bombings were justified, the magazine said: "In the wake of this month's high-profile arrests, it can now be argued that the biggest threat to US security emanates not from Iran or Iraq or Afghanistan, but rather from Great Britain, our closest ally."



The magazine, with a circulation of 60,000-a-week, has its roots on the Democratic Left although in recent years it has backed much of President George W Bush's foreign policy. The claim is the latest in a series of hostile reassessment of Britain by Americans in the wake of the alleged plot to bring down transatlantic airliners.
Many have been appalled both by the existence of enthusiastic jihadis in British cities and by the call from some of their leaders for a change in the country's foreign policy.
Other publications and the think-tanks that shape public debate in America have also issued stern criticism both of Britain's Muslims and of the Government. Nile Gardiner, of the Right-wing Heritage Foundation, told The Daily Telegraph yesterday that Americans were coming to view Britain as "a hornet's nest of Islamic extremists" and thought it posed ''a direct security threat to the US".
He said that if British-based terrorism continues, America is likely to respond harshly.
"A major concern would be the tightening of travel restrictions unless the authorities start to crack down on Islamist militancy," he said. More than four million Britons enter America annually using the visa waiver programme. Any change would force Britons wishing to visit the US into lengthy queues at American diplomatic missions.
Mr Gardiner said the issue had not yet acquired a head of steam in Congress, but that another plot, or a "successful" attack by British Muslims on an American target, would be likely to spur an immediate response.
Investor's Business Daily has already demanded an end to the programme because it "allows Pakistani Britons to dodge security background checks".
Much of the outraged American response this month was sparked by the call from Muslim leaders for a change in British foreign policy. The letter from six Muslim MPs and 38 community leaders said "current British Government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad".
The theme was taken up by the Wall Street Journal, which said: "It is typical of some of Britain's so-called moderate Muslims, who seem less concerned with fighting extremists in their midst than in excusing them."
The newspaper went on to attack Tony Blair's government for "cultivating and promoting such pseudo-moderate Muslim organisations". The BBC and the Foreign Office, described as "a preserve of Arabists", were also lambasted both for quoting extremists and allowing them into Britain.

[Dougal]

I would broadly agree with the article.

It never seemed to bother Americans that the IRA was raising funds in the US through Noraid did it?

[Storekeeper]

It is typical of some of Britain's so-called moderate Muslims, who seem less concerned with fighting extremists in their midst than in excusing them."

That's sure enough spot on now tisn't it ? We've got the same problem over in Merika with the pinko commie liberals.

[Wallace]

What utter crap! I wouldn't have expected much else from a right-wing English newspaper who would like to get the empire back or from the cretinous right-wing Heritage Foundation, who are keen to push for tighter security controls on US citizens all in the name of 'war on terrorism'.

Still, it's nice to see that freedom of the press in the UK allows people to publish such bollocks. It's a shame that freedom of expression doesn't extend to people in New York who would like to put forward their opposite opinion.

[machangezi]

Is the UK a threat to American Security

I think you meant to say "Is the US a threat to Brit security"!

.The answer is yes the US is not only a threat to Brit security, its a threat to world security under the ape's administration.

Ta

[barbaro]

It's not Britain, but the ragheads Britain let into their country that are travelling on UK passports.

Send them back to their dumps.

[Propagator]

I think you meant to say "Is the US a threat to Brit security"!

Agree with you on this.

Who was it that discovered this latest plot. Was it US intelligence or the UK intelligence. If it was the former there is a case to say that the UK security is suspect, if not the US should be giving the UK a pat on the back.

I am sure that the US wants far more info and data on people entering the country than anybody else, yet feel that if other countries were to impose these requirements on US citizens the US would soon start complaining.

[Mhz]

Lets think,why British civilians were never attacked by muslim extreamists before the Iraqi invasion??

I mean Britain colonized most of their countries and ruled them for centuries but they were never attacked.I think America is a threat to british security.It's like when we are young and our parents stop us from bad company.

I think it's a logical place to start.

[man with no head]

^^Probably because the British are far more civilized and are now attacked because they support the US and Israel without question.

[Boon Mee]

It's not Britain, but the ragheads Britain let into their country that are travelling on UK passports.

Send them back to their dumps.

Bring back the old 'Saturday Night Paki Bash'!
Me and my hooligan mates from Newcastle would have great sport with 'em after the pub on the way to the local fish & chips!

[Storekeeper]

It's not Britain, but the ragheads Britain let into their country that are travelling on UK passports.

Send them back to their dumps.

What about the ones we let into America ? Should we send them back to their country too ? I'm glad Macha left of his own accord.

Is Macha a raghead ?

[man with no head]

It's widely reported that the key to breaking the case actually came from Muslims:

U.S. Muslims warn of threat from within - Yahoo! News

[Butterfly]

That's how it started with the Jews under Nazi Germany. Are you guys going through that same process ? a little Reichtag fire and you throw away your 200 years history ? nice going.

[barbaro]

It's not Britain, but the ragheads Britain let into their country that are travelling on UK passports.

Send them back to their dumps.

What about the ones we let into America ?

Kick them out.

[Begbie]

Not a very good comparison. The jews in germany were totally integrated into german society.

[man with no head]

So too are most Muslims:

Pakistan-born officer becomes British military's highest-ranking Muslim - Yahoo! News

Pakistan-born immigrant Amjad Hussain became the highest-ranking Muslim in the British armed forces, obtaining the rank of rear admiral in the Royal Navy.

[mrsquirrel]

Me and my hooligan mates from Newcastle would have great sport with 'em after the pub on the way to the local fish & chips!

Please tell me you are not Geordie Dave from BKK

[barbaro]

Not a very good comparison. The jews in germany were totally integrated into german society.

The jewish community contributed a lot to European society: education, science, medicine, literature, arts, etc.

The Raggies have not and don't contribut anything excpet for manning the cashiers at convenient stores and blowing things up and wearing rags to schools.

[Marmite the Dog]

It's not Britain, but the ragheads Britain let into their country that are travelling on UK passports.

Send them back to their dumps.

Bring back the old 'Saturday Night Paki Bash'!
Me and my hooligan mates from Newcastle would have great sport with 'em after the pub on the way to the local fish & chips!

Yes, there are a few scumbags in Newcastle, sadly.

[Marmite the Dog]

The Raggies have not and don't contribut anything excpet for manning the cashiers at convenient stores and blowing things up and wearing rags to schools.

Pakistan-born immigrant Amjad Hussain became the highest-ranking Muslim in the British armed forces, obtaining the rank of rear admiral in the Royal Navy.

This one is doing ok though.

[machangezi]

The jewish community contributed a lot to European society: education, science, medicine, literature, arts, etc.

The Raggies have not and don't contribut anything excpet for manning the cashiers at convenient stores and blowing things up and wearing rags to schools.

So that means in your country the gov't give rights to those who contributed something. Those who haven't are kicked out. NO wonder you're in Asia for a very long time.

[endure]

[quote=Milkman;165983]

The Raggies have not and don't contribut anything excpet for manning the cashiers at convenient stores and blowing things up and wearing rags to schools.

That and keeping the NHS running.

[Propagator]

UK terror fears increase
Police are trying to keep tabs on "thousands" of people in Britain who may be involved directly or indirectly with terrorism.
Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch, believes Britain is facing an increasing homegrown extremist threat.
Mr Clarke has refused to put an exact figure on the number of terror suspects operating within the UK, but gave a stark warning about the scale of the task facing Britain's security agencies.
The number of those involved across the spectrum of terrorism, from plotting or taking part in attacks to the provision of logistical and financial support or encouragement, ran into four figures, he said.
He said: "What we've learnt since 9/11 is that the threat is not something that's simply coming from overseas into the United Kingdom.
"What we've learned, and what we've seen all too graphically and all too murderously is that we have a threat which is being generated here within the United Kingdom."


The above is from NTL news. I suppose this will be another reason for the US to doubt the UKs security.

[Butterfly]

funny how that threat is linked to Blair war on muslims

[Begbie]

The Raggies have not and don't contribut anything excpet for manning the cashiers at convenient stores and blowing things up and wearing rags to schools.

That and keeping the NHS running.

Corrcted the quotes as I never said that. I would have said Paki not Raggie.

A Raggie is an arab and they're much too lazy to run convenience stores, or anything else for that matter.