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    they are joking, right ?

    HOME Office chiefs want thousands more migrant workers to come to the UK, even though three million Brits could soon be on the dole.

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    Officials even plan to invite foreigners to complete major building projects such as London’s new Olympic village in time for the 2012 Games.


    They say 25,000 jobs will be up for grabs in the next year but are overlooking Brits in favour of cheaper outsiders.

    The Home Office has even commissioned a report titled: “Would the needs of large projects be sensibly met through immigration?”



    This is the kind of thing what makes briton the laughing stock of europe.
    And what can we do.

    I'll post a link on the full story,

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    Extra foreign workers being considered for Olympics
    Research into whether large numbers of extra foreign workers are needed for the Olympic Games has been commissioned by Government immigration advisers.

    Published: 8:00AM GMT 09 Jan 2010
    The Migration Advisory Committee is asking academics to examine if more immigrants are required to work on the London 2012 Games and other large infrastructure projects.
    Officials said the research would examine the policy options available to ministers.
    Researchers will also look at whether foreign workers are needed to work on Crossrail, high-speed rail lines and to decommission power plants, the proposal suggests.
    The document states: ''The aim of this research is to identify whether the labour needs of large-scale infrastructure projects could be sensibly met through immigration.''
    It will look at whether extra skilled or unskilled workers are needed because ''shortages'' occur in large projects.
    Academics would also examine if labour shortages can increase the cost of projects and lead to delays.
    The research will be commissioned next month and published by the end of March.
    But critics said it would be ''inexcusable'' to encourage more immigration with so many British workers out of jobs. Nearly two and a half million people are unemployed.
    Last week it emerged the number of foreign-born workers in employment rose by 22,000 during the recession, while the number of British-born workers in a job fell by 625,000.
    The committee's analysis of official figures found there were 25,104,000 British-born workers compared with 3,730,000 born abroad.
    Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch UK, said: ''These studies are an open invitation to the immigration industry and to employers who want cheap labour.
    ''With two and a half million unemployed already it would not be sensible to promote further immigration, it would be inexcusable. Extra foreign workers being considered for Olympics - Telegraph

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    UK fucked, tell us something we don't know already

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    Can hardly blame them, having been back in the UK a year, Brits (the unemployed ones) are a lazy bunch of fokers, when i went to the recruitment day for royal mail, hardly any Brits there, mainly pakis and east europeans, so if the Brits don't want the jobs, what choice do they have, too many people have it too easy on benefits.

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    The lazy is a preconception, we have bad leaders that play a blame game.

    I hear we must be competative, well the only way to be competative is to produce reasonably priced goods, we can not do this with the cost of living in th UK, so import cheap labour and bring down the real wage structure.

    My children are aged 21 down to 3, i help my younger ones with home work and look at the teaching methodology, they are as thick as me and i am a carpenter not an academic.

    My oldest are 21, twins, one is at university and the other is working 2 jobs 72 hours a week, and people call the brits lazy, the more we carry on putting our young down, then i am afraid we will undermine thier confidence, and indeed they will not take the country forward. Given the opportunity, british people are an industrious breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    It will look at whether extra skilled or unskilled workers are needed because ''shortages'' occur in large projects.
    If the research only considers cost of labor then not a good thing as many Brits will be excluded.

    If research focuses on availability then OK. If there are not enough "skilled" Brit citizens, then supplementing with foreign workers will be necessary. For unskilled positions, will be more a factor of willingness of Brits to fill these unskilled positions at what they may deem below their dignity or at salaries they will not accept.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    It will look at whether extra skilled or unskilled workers are needed because ''shortages'' occur in large projects.
    If the research only considers cost of labor then not a good thing as many Brits will be excluded.

    If research focuses on availability then OK. If there are not enough "skilled" Brit citizens, then supplementing with foreign workers will be necessary. For unskilled positions, will be more a factor of willingness of Brits to fill these unskilled positions at what they may deem below their dignity or at salaries they will not accept.
    Norton. i am in construction,
    We do not and i reiterate DO NOT need to import foreign skills, we have enough.
    Feck me we imported doctors, clever people, and it is hard to understand them.
    Have you been to easten europe ?. the construction standards will definately not improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    We do not and i reiterate DO NOT need to import foreign skills, we have enough.
    If that's the case then it's what the research should show if they only consider availability. Bringing in skilled labor when there is enough Brits to fill the position would be stupid and frankly have a big political fall out for any government which allowed it.

    Also agree, skilled labor must be defined in accordance with quality of work which meets job standards for the UK. "Skilled" in one country certainly may not be considered skilled in another.

    Filling the unskilled positions will likely end up being done with immigrants. Something that happens in every developed country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Filling the unskilled positions will likely end up being done with immigrants. Something that happens in every developed country.
    How very true, Happens in the USA and has for the last 50 or more years as the welfare systems make it so easy to lay on your dead ass and get more money per month than you will make at an unskilled job that the more liberal people will not work.
    Fuckers got hungry then they would work.
    Seems to me that if work is available then they work or do not get any money, makes no difference if it is skilled or unskilled, if you are drawing welfare then you should have to take a job if offered or your welfare would be cut off, if it was not a living wage then welfare would step in to fill that gap, but you would work or be cut off completely. You would clock into a dispatch station daily at a given time and if work was there you would do it or at least be prepared or would be cut that days wages.
    But to lay on your ass in govt provided quarters and breed more names for the welfare roles would be a thing of the past, but will never be as long as you have a nigger president and a bunch of white liberals and niggers voting.
    Now thats only for the USA I am speaking, but might be some of the problems facing UK as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    We do not and i reiterate DO NOT need to import foreign skills, we have enough.
    If that's the case then it's what the research should show if they only consider availability. Bringing in skilled labor when there is enough Brits to fill the position would be stupid and frankly have a big political fall out for any government which allowed it.

    Also agree, skilled labor must be defined in accordance with quality of work which meets job standards for the UK. "Skilled" in one country certainly may not be considered skilled in another.

    Filling the unskilled positions will likely end up being done with immigrants. Something that happens in every developed country.
    Globilisation, wonderfull.
    it seems to be, move where the money is, then get back to where you belong.

    Abu dhabi, 2 highly educated friend in construction went 2 years ago, 150K a year,I could have gone 80K per annum, all we will do is regress not improve with this attitude of bringing in cheap labour, if we pay the correct money to live in this country then we have enough skilled labour. In the UK we train and then have a brain drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    Globilisation, wonderfull. it seems to be, move where the money is, then get back to where you belong.
    Always worked for me, spent an enjoyable and adventurous lifetime at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    The lazy is a preconception
    Don't think so, I'm afraid
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    My oldest are 21, twins, one is at university and the other is working 2 jobs 72 hours a week
    They sound great kids & you must be very proud of them, but for a large portion of the British population, that is simply not the case. The 'Jeremy Kyle' underclass would rather live on benefits and scams, than actually work.
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    people call the brits lazy, the more we carry on putting our young down, then i am afraid we will undermine thier confidence, and indeed they will not take the country forward. Given the opportunity, british people are an industrious breed.
    I work in a care home. It was a job I walked into pretty much immediately on arriving back in UK (the only delay was getting my CRB - criminal records check back, as I hadn't lived in the country for 15 years). On signing up at the Job Centre the girl who interviewed me was frankly gobsmacked that I was willing to travel for work, work unsocial hours or do pretty much any job I was even vaguely qualified to do.

    In our care home, all but one of the nurses is an African immigrant, as are a huge number of the carers. Why? Because the wages are crap (minimum wage, it's privately owned), the hours are long (12 hour shifts) and the work is tiring, both mentally & physically. The young Brits that work there invariably leave after a few months, yet the older ones and the immigrants stay. Possibly because they feel they can't do better, or possibly because they're more willing to work. Maybe a mixture of both.

    However, if it were left to the youth of Britain, these homes would not be staffed at all. And who would look after our infirm elderly then? Their families?

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    The lazy is a preconception
    Don't think so, I'm afraid
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    My oldest are 21, twins, one is at university and the other is working 2 jobs 72 hours a week
    They sound great kids & you must be very proud of them, but for a large portion of the British population, that is simply not the case. The 'Jeremy Kyle' underclass would rather live on benefits and scams, than actually work.
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    people call the brits lazy, the more we carry on putting our young down, then i am afraid we will undermine thier confidence, and indeed they will not take the country forward. Given the opportunity, british people are an industrious breed.
    I work in a care home. It was a job I walked into pretty much immediately on arriving back in UK (the only delay was getting my CRB - criminal records check back, as I hadn't lived in the country for 15 years). On signing up at the Job Centre the girl who interviewed me was frankly gobsmacked that I was willing to travel for work, work unsocial hours or do pretty much any job I was even vaguely qualified to do.

    In our care home, all but one of the nurses is an African immigrant, as are a huge number of the carers. Why? Because the wages are crap (minimum wage, it's privately owned), the hours are long (12 hour shifts) and the work is tiring, both mentally & physically. The young Brits that work there invariably leave after a few months, yet the older ones and the immigrants stay. Possibly because they feel they can't do better, or possibly because they're more willing to work. Maybe a mixture of both.

    However, if it were left to the youth of Britain, these homes would not be staffed at all. And who would look after our infirm elderly then? Their families?

    NR, i would say fair play to you and it is the right thing to do, work of course.
    I feel for you on the wage front, i would and will put the wage structure down to over immigration bringing down the level of pay.

    England is an expensive country to live in, and 6.00 per hour for a 40-48 hr week is a survivable wage, but not a livable wage, imo.

    For care work, which is very stressfull, a minimum wage is disgraceful, if we did not have so many cheap immigrants then the wage structure would be a lot better, because of competition for the right type of person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    The lazy is a preconception
    Don't think so, I'm afraid
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    My oldest are 21, twins, one is at university and the other is working 2 jobs 72 hours a week
    They sound great kids & you must be very proud of them, but for a large portion of the British population, that is simply not the case. The 'Jeremy Kyle' underclass would rather live on benefits and scams, than actually work.
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho
    people call the brits lazy, the more we carry on putting our young down, then i am afraid we will undermine thier confidence, and indeed they will not take the country forward. Given the opportunity, british people are an industrious breed.
    I work in a care home. It was a job I walked into pretty much immediately on arriving back in UK (the only delay was getting my CRB - criminal records check back, as I hadn't lived in the country for 15 years). On signing up at the Job Centre the girl who interviewed me was frankly gobsmacked that I was willing to travel for work, work unsocial hours or do pretty much any job I was even vaguely qualified to do.

    In our care home, all but one of the nurses is an African immigrant, as are a huge number of the carers. Why? Because the wages are crap (minimum wage, it's privately owned), the hours are long (12 hour shifts) and the work is tiring, both mentally & physically. The young Brits that work there invariably leave after a few months, yet the older ones and the immigrants stay. Possibly because they feel they can't do better, or possibly because they're more willing to work. Maybe a mixture of both.

    However, if it were left to the youth of Britain, these homes would not be staffed at all. And who would look after our infirm elderly then? Their families?

    NR, i would say fair play to you and it is the right thing to do, work of course.
    I feel for you on the wage front, i would and will put the wage structure down to over immigration bringing down the level of pay.

    England is an expensive country to live in, and 6.00 per hour for a 40-48 hr week is a survivable wage, but not a livable wage, imo.

    For care work, which is very stressfull, a minimum wage is disgraceful, if we did not have so many cheap immigrants then the wage structure would be a lot better, because of competition for the right type of person.
    No, our wages are not down to cheap immigrant labour, but greedy British bosses. Our employer pays us minimum wage, complains about the number of disposable gloves, pads & wipes we use to do our job (try doing the job without them!) and his idea of a Christmas bonus is a £6 card from Asda. Meanwhile, the residents are paying £400 a week & he's driving around in flash cars. Maybe he's one of the entrepeneurial youth you're lauding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    The lazy is a preconception, we have bad leaders that play a blame game.

    I hear we must be competative, well the only way to be competative is to produce reasonably priced goods, we can not do this with the cost of living in th UK, so import cheap labour and bring down the real wage structure.

    My children are aged 21 down to 3, i help my younger ones with home work and look at the teaching methodology, they are as thick as me and i am a carpenter not an academic.

    My oldest are 21, twins, one is at university and the other is working 2 jobs 72 hours a week, and people call the brits lazy, the more we carry on putting our young down, then i am afraid we will undermine thier confidence, and indeed they will not take the country forward. Given the opportunity, british people are an industrious breed.
    Agreed, and the establishment in my opinion knew exactly what they were doing and screwed its own people over.

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