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    Yes, but MM is not right wing, he doesn't live in the US (not domestic) and probably couldn't set a mousetrap.

    When I asked, "Is somebody defending him," I presumed it was understood that somebody referred to one of the right-wing domestic terrorists the OP referred to.

    In other words, "Is there a right-wing domestic terrorist defending McVeigh?"

    Evidently not.

    (goddamn you're thick)

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    You can't move the goalposts at your leisure, Texpat.

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    HA! Moving the goalposts. Good one!

    McVeigh is not a right winger. And neither is MM. Show me a right-wing domestic terrorist who supports McVeigh (or MM).

    Ain't none.

    But I can show you a left-wing libtard terrorist (RA's word) in yesterday's news arrested for making death threats.

    You find one yet? Let us know when you get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    McVeigh is not a right winger.
    Was, Tex, he's dead now though I know he lives on in your heart. His voter registration was with the republicans.

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    He was republican while he lived in NY (before he was 20).

    Thereafter, according to wiki: "McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[11] and while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the 1996 United States presidential election"

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    Libertarians are just Republicans in another guise trying to capture the liberal vote. Wake up Tex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    He was republican while he lived in NY (before he was 20).

    Thereafter, according to wiki: "McVeigh self-identified as a libertarian in a statement that was reported by MSNBC.com and The Washington Post;[11] and while in federal prison, he voted for Libertarian candidate Harry Browne in the 1996 United States presidential election"
    The American Libertarian party is right-wing. EVERY American political party is right wing.

    I think the most telling statement from the wiki article you quoted is this

    According to his authorized biography, "his only sustaining relief from his unsatisfied sex drive was his even stronger desire to die."
    And that's the fundamental problem with America, if more of you guys were less hung up about sex you'd have a lot less psychos in the States.
    The Above Post May Contain Strong Language, Flashing Lights, or Violent Scenes.

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    fewer, bob, the word is fewer...

    Are Irish people little leprechauns with tiny peckers and clovers in their hats?

    The women too? How come I never see any women leprechauns? Are leprechauns all gay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Can't you find one -- or is this all just hot air?
    Extraordinarily helpful chaps, your FBI.

    Here are some right-wing US domestic terrorists to be going on with, plenty more to come once you've overturned their convictions, shown the groups they belong to to be harmless bible study organisations, and tracked down the stoolies currently hiding in the Fed Witness Protection Program;

    Charles Ray Polk
    Willie Ray Lampley
    Cecilia Lampley
    John Dare Baird
    Joseph martin Bailie
    Ellis Edward Hurd
    Peter Kevin Langan
    Richard Guthrey
    Mark Thomas
    Robert Starr
    William Mc Cranie
    Eric Rudolph
    John Pitner
    Ray Hamblin
    Todd Vanbiber
    Robert Spence
    Shawn Adams
    Catherine Adams
    Edward Taylor
    Rick Salyers
    Brendan Blasz

    Organisations some of the people above were members of, I like these names - sounds like US right-wing terrorists get most of their ideas from GI Joe Cartoons.

    League of the Silent Soldier
    The Mountaineer Militia
    The Phineas Priests
    Viper Team
    Aryan Republican Army
    Sons of the Gestapo
    Army of God

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    fewer, bob, the word is fewer...
    When referring to lard-ass Americans the operative word is less.
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    How come I never see any women leprechauns? Are leprechauns all gay?
    Do you often see leprechauns? Do these viewings, by any chance, coincide with your late-night drinking binges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    And that's the fundamental problem with America, if more of you guys were less hung up about sex you'd have a lot less psychos in the States.
    Ya! And they don't know nuthin about the world or else they'd all be in Thailand with the mentally and weight-challenged Brits and Germans pumping the little Thai chicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    And that's the fundamental problem with America, if more of you guys were less hung up about sex you'd have a lot less psychos in the States.
    Ya! And they don't know nuthin about the world or else they'd all be in Thailand with the mentally and weight-challenged Brits and Germans pumping the little Thai chicks.
    Yup, Yanks, Brits, Germans, all scum. Agreed. Good to see you showing some common sense at last

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    no linky ... coulda pulled those names off the white pages.

    How about someone active, like the libbie moonbat terror chick arrested a few days ago? (previous page)

    Got anything juicy or just a list of names. Do you work for Acorn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    no linky ... coulda pulled those names off the white pages.

    How about some active, like the libbie moonbat terror chick arrested a few days ago?

    Got anything juicy or just a list of names. Do you work for Acorn?
    All mouth and no trousers, that's your problem Tex. I knew that as soon as you got a response to your "give us a name" dirge (how many times have you asked that on this thread?) you'd skitter off. You've got the names, that's more than enough for you to go and find out more about those people.

    I'm not your research assistant, you asked for names and you got them. Now, in the unlikely event that you were actually serious about wanting those names get off your lazy ass and find out who they are and what they did. I'm starting to suspect that your constant claims of no right-wing domestic terrorists might not have any basis in fact, that it might, gasp, be grounded in ignorance.

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    Are any of them still alive? Are any of them even Americans?

    Are you just pulling our collective leg, Bob?

    Let's see: Two from the Addams Family, Guthrie was a folk singer, Rudolph works with Santa and Polk was a former president.

    Mighty fine cast of ne'er-do-well's, inspector, well done!

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    Reading back through this thread it seems that nobody's actually posted the contents of the report mentioned in the OP. Thread's moved on since then but I thought some people might like to see the original DHS "Right-wing Extremism" report, it's hardly earth-shattering.




















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    Tex is your typical right wing terrorist candidate,

    if given the chance to show his patriotism against the libbies, he would sacrifice his life, even if it means to blow himself up in the name of America and Freedom,

    what a better cause to commit such an act, isn't it ?

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    Skimming thru that doc, there ain't much of a threat, except as noted in that Lone Wolves box. Twaddle. But, I would admit that if bambam keeps messing up the country at the rate he's going, there will be trouble.

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    First words of the Findings ... page 2 ... no specific information...

    Well, that's that then.

    Anybody wanna talk about the batshit creepy libbie arrested for a death threat to an informant who disclosed information regarding the bombing of the RNC?

    Anybody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    First words of the Findings ... page 2 ... no specific information...

    Well, that's that then.

    Anybody wanna talk about the batshit creepy libbie arrested for a death threat to an informant who disclosed information regarding the bombing of the RNC?

    Anybody?
    The names, Tex? You cried like a baby for them. have you forgotten already?

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    Why doesn't the DHS document address those right wing domestic terror threats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Why doesn't the DHS document address those right wing domestic terror threats?
    The names, Tex? You cried like a baby for them. have you forgotten already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    SHOCK, Chris is black.


    The funny thing about these gun-toting protesters is that they like to portray themselves as being simple, honest defenders of their gun rights when they show up for public events, especially those featuring the president, packing heat publicly.


    They adamantly deny that they're bringing their guns to intimidate their fellow citizens from speaking out with a contrary view. But this is beyond disingenuous; it doesn't take a genius to figure out that they vast majority of the people who attend a public debate will perceive someone with a gun as someone they should fear -- particularly if they have an opposing view. Most people will see someone with a gun at an event that does not deal with guns as a potential threat.


    Moreover, these gun-toters want to assure us they pose no threat whatsoever to either the president or his supporters by bringing these guns. They're just ordinary citizens standing up for their rights, right? The Secret Service need have no fear about their motives.


    But then we find out that at least one of them ardently admires a pastor who preaches how much he hates Obama and wishes him dead, in order "to save this country."


    And we're supposed to tell these "innocent" gun nuts from the people who might actually aim their weapons at the president how?


    (Out of order)

    Jones: Now I'm starting to get a clearer picture. You go to Pastor Anderson's church, I see.


    Chris: Yeah, yes I do. Proudly. I think it's the best church in the world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    no linky ... coulda pulled those names off the white pages.

    How about someone active, like the libbie moonbat terror chick arrested a few days ago? (previous page)

    Got anything juicy or just a list of names. Do you work for Acorn?
    Everything is big in Texas, right. Including the idiots.

    In the interest of fair-play I included some lefties for you to obsess on so you don't have to face the facts. Drink up.
    National Security Watch: 60 right-wing terror plots foiled
    By Danielle Knight
    Posted 7/12/05
    In the 10 years since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing killed 168 people, roughly 60 right-wing terrorist plots have been uncovered in the United States, according to an upcoming report by the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. The plots, all foiled by law enforcement, reportedly included violent plans by antigovernment militia groups, racist skinhead organizations, and Ku Klux Klan members to use various types of chemical bombs and other weapons.
    The plots demonstrate that the Department of Homeland Security still needs to closely monitor right-wing groups, says Heidi Beirich, with the Intelligence Project. The DHS was criticized by hate-group experts in April when an internal planning document on domestic terrorist threats was leaked to the press. The DHS report listed radical leftist groups, such as the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front, which have been involved in numerous arson cases, but not violent right-wing militia and skinhead groups.
    Rep. Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, the ranking Democrat on the House Committee on Homeland Security, is calling for the DHS to do more to fight right-wing domestic terror groups and to work more closely with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. "The FBI has a considerably more thorough view of domestic terrorism than DHS," says Thompson. The DHS has said that the internal document was never intended to be made public and does not represent all its assessments on domestic terrorism.
    Some of the more recent right-wing terror plots listed in the Intelligence Project report include:
    May 20, 2005: Two New Jersey men, Craig Orler and Gabriel Garafa, who allegedly belong to neo-Nazi and skinhead groups, were charged with illegally selling to police informants guns and 60 pounds of urea to use in a bomb.
    Oct. 25, 2004: FBI agents in Tennessee arrested Demetrius "Van" Crocker after he allegedly tried to purchase ingredients for deadly sarin nerve gas and C-4 plastic explosives from an undercover agent. Crocker, who was involved with white supremacist groups, was charged with trying to get explosives to destroy a building and faces more than 20 years in prison.
    April 10, 2003: The FBI raided the home of William Krar, of Noonday, Texas, and discovered an arsenal of more than 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and remote control briefcase bombs, and almost 2 pounds of sodium cyanide, enough to make a bomb that could kill everyone in a large building. Krar, reportedly associated with white supremacist groups, was sentenced to 11 years in prison for possession of a chemical weapon.
    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050712/12natsec.htm

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    ^ Waste of time . . . facts are not of interest to those that are narrow-minded

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