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    Kyrgystan says "Yankee go home"

    Kyrgyzstan to shut down US military base - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    Kyrgyzstan's parliament has voted overwhelmingly to close an American military base on its territory.

    The Manas air base has been operating in the central Asian country for more than seven years and has been a vital hub for international anti-terrorism forces in nearby Afghanistan.

    But two weeks ago, after accepting a $2 billion loan from Russia, the Kygryzstan President announced that his country would end the agreement with the US allowing for the base's operation, saying there was public opposition to the facility and that Washington had not negotiated a better deal to stay.
    The US forces have six months to move out of the facility.
    It will be interesting to see what Obama has to say about this. Maybe Clinton can swing thru Russia after leaving Asia?

    I wonder if closing this base will effect the Obama crews ability to continue the Bush extraordinary rendition program?

    I did hear there is a chance the US could stay at this base if they negotiate a bigger lease payment - I sure hope they don't have to put a bid on the table that tops the $2 billion loan from Russia (maybe they can stay if they pay off that loan?).
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    And the Russians say they have noting to do with it, strangely enough I believe this. It could be an appeasement gesture towards the local population.

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    That's a start! Now if we could get the imperialistic pigs to close down all of their unnecessary bases worldwide - we'll be in clover.

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    Perhaps Kyrgyzstan would change their mind if they were allowed a base in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Perhaps Kyrgyzstan would change their mind if they were allowed a base in the US?
    touche'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    That's a start! Now if we could get the imperialistic pigs to close down all of their unnecessary bases worldwide - we'll be in clover.
    Been hoping they would for a very long time. Let others deal with all the shit out there. After all, we got 2 very big oceans on either side of us, as a barrier. Let the shit eat at Europe's money, and manpower. They are so much closer to all the action, which they choose to ignore. Of course then we will be criticized for not doing nothing. But let's face it, it's so much cheaper financially, as well as saving American lives. But don't worry, cause they never call me, and ask for my opinion.

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    Isolationist/Imperialist (delete one) peeg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Isolationist/Imperialist (delete one) peeg!
    Would only wish to dispute the peeg part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    And the Russians say they have noting to do with it, strangely enough I believe this. It could be an appeasement gesture towards the local population.
    I might buy it too except the Kygryzstan President made the announcement to the press while in the Kremlin, sitting next to the Russian President...

    The next item of business on their agenda was to sign the $2B loan documents...



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    A lot can happen in 6 months. If oil stays below $50 a barrel the ruskies are going to feel a cash flow pinch.

    And those evil baby killing americans will manipulate the situation to their advantage.
    Face it! A free market of 300 million people has conseederable leverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    A lot can happen in 6 months. If oil stays below $50 a barrel the ruskies are going to feel a cash flow pinch.

    And those evil baby killing americans will manipulate the situation to their advantage.
    Face it! A free market of 300 million people has conseederable leverage.
    First you have to have a free market. Then you thump your chest about such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs
    Kyrgystan says "Yankee go home"
    No they did not say that.
    What they did say is Russia is going to give us 2 billion dollars if we tell you to leave, do you make a counter offer or what?

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    I'm not sure of the importance of this Manas Air base in a wider context- I know it is a stopping off point to Afghanistan, but I doubt it is irreplaceable or of vital importance. Frankly, given the financial pressures on the US right now, and the expensive proliferation of US military bases around the world this may well fit right in to Obamas wider agenda.

    Wiki seems pretty up to date on it:-
    Manas Air Base

    Manas Air Base (unofficially Ganci Air Base) is a United States military installation at Manas International Airport, near Bishkek, the capital of Kyrgyzstan, primarily operated by the U.S. Air Force.

    The base was opened in December 2001 to support U.S. military operations in the ongoing war in Afghanistan. It has hosted forces from several other International Security Assistance Force member states as well.

    Several events, such as the shooting of a local civilian and rumors of fuel dumping, have to strained relations with some of the local population. Regional powers such as Russia and China have been pushing for the closure of the base since 2005.

    On February 3, 2009, Kyrgyzstani President Kurmanbek Bakiyev announced that the air base will be closing due to a failure by the two governments to agree on new lease terms. The Kyrgyz Parliament voted to close the base on February 19 by a vote of 78 to one. The next day an eviction notice was delivered to the U.S. Embassy in Bishkek...


    The news of the base's closure followed the announcement of a new agreement between Russia and Kyrgyzstan in which Kyrgyzstan will receive $2 billion in loans and $150 million in financial aid from Russia. Many analysts see the two events as connected and Pentagon spokesman Geoff S. Morrell accused Russia of "attempting to undermine [American] use of that facility". However, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev distanced his country from the announcement, saying that it was "within the competence of the Kyrgyz Republic" to decide how the Manas base functioned. Additionally, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation had been urging Kyrgyzstan to close the base since 2005.

    Manas Air Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I suppose if you are proceeding from a Cold War, Domino Theory or Neo-Con type attitude, this might be seen as a setback. It certainly signals that Kyrgyztan falls under the Russian sphere of influence in the region, but I doubt it is of any great strategic importance- another air base will just become the stopping off point to Afghanistan, or the "Gateway to Hell" as it is dubbed by the military.

    If I was American I'd just be thinking, well good that will save me some tax dollars.

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    All US troop & supply movement into / out of Afghanistan is routed through Manas... It's a big deal...

    Just this week BO authorized up to 30K additional US troops to be deployed to Fuckwitistan... Down the same path of the Ruskies... Right up to the point where they ran out of money and the USSR was no more...
    Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    If I was American I'd just be thinking, well good that will save me some tax dollars
    FFO Sabang, FFO [Far Fucking Out]

    tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine.
    I don't meet many Kyrgy's, but I'll be sure to pass it on.

    Manas is the only US air base in central Asia as it happens. But in Afghanistan you've got the massive Baghram air base- I don't see any reason why that can't just be expanded to serve as the 'Gateway to Hell'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib View Post
    All US troop & supply movement into / out of Afghanistan is routed through Manas... It's a big deal...

    Just this week BO authorized up to 30K additional US troops to be deployed to Fuckwitistan... Down the same path of the Ruskies... Right up to the point where they ran out of money and the USSR was no more...
    Historically, Western/Europeans have had a rough go with this region. Will not change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    I don't see any reason why that can't just be expanded to serve as the 'Gateway to Hell'.
    And those C-5 will hold plenty of gas for the trip, so fuck em.
    When they move out, take your good shit and personell and then blow up the infastructure..
    Thats what the renters I have had did when I told em they were pigs and to get their ass out of my house.

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