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    Blacks killing each other at an alarming rate.

    Study: Murders among black youths on rise - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

    updated 12:01 a.m. ET Dec. 29, 2008
    WASHINGTON - The number of young black men and teenagers who either killed or were killed in shootings has risen at an alarming rate since 2000, a new study shows.
    The study, to be released Monday by criminologists at Northeastern University in Boston, comes as FBI data is showing that murders have leveled off nationwide.
    Not so for black teens, the youngest of whom saw dramatic increases in shooting deaths, the Northeastern report concluded.

    Last year, for example, 426 black males between the ages of 14 and 17 were killed in gun crimes, the study shows. That marked a 40 percent increase from 2000.
    'We need a bailout for kids at risk'
    Similarly, an estimated 964 in the same age group committed fatal shootings in 2007 — a 38 percent increase from seven years earlier. The number of offenders is estimated because not all crimes are reported, said Northeastern criminologist James Alan Fox, who co-authored the study.
    "Although the overall rate of homicide in the United States remains relatively low, the landscape is quite different for countless Americans living, and some dying, in violence-infested neighborhoods," Fox said.
    Seizing on President-elect Barack Obama's incoming administration as an opportunity for more funding, Fox added: "There is an urgency for reinvestment in children and families. In essence, we need a bailout for kids at risk."
    Study: Murders among black youths on rise - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

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    Black/make on black/male violence has been high for many years.

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    Seems to be the same in the UK if you believe what the papers tell you !

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    Nothing new here...

    "Some economists argue that the national Black jobless rate or employment-population ratio (the proportion of the working age population with a job) for African Americans is 42 percent of all those of working age."

    Black Unemployment Grows Past 11 Percent

    Market equalization as there are only so many street corners on which to sell drugs... The turf war leads to black-on-black violence...

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    ^^ I knew Colombia has been the world's leader in kidnapping for years... Didn't realize they've topped the list in murders also... Still love the country and the people...

    It's a common saying in Colombia that it's such a beautiful country, populated by such evil men...

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    Let's have a look at a few selected statistics (and I'm not going to compare the US of A with third world hell holes such as Iraq, Somalia or Swaziland).

    USA 5.7 per 100 thousand (2007)
    Spain 3.35 (2007)
    Israel 2.68 (same date)
    UK 2.03 (2002)
    Germany 0.98 (2004)
    Hong Kong 0.63 (same date)
    Singapore 0.49 (same date)

    So, the murder rate in the so-called Land of the Free is more than 10 times that in Singapore.

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    Again drugs, or more specifically control of drug distribution could be the main reason for these killings.

    Do black males have the same chances of winning normal jobs as white males or are they just more likely to take the easier way out and deal in drugs to make a living than white males.

    Is society again to blame and will Obama be able to solve this cancer amongst black males.....??????

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    No ifs, ands or buts about it, the US is a gun culture... After all, it's a "right" to bear arms, and many do... There was an estimated 40% jump in gun purchases immediately after BO was elected... With the coming economic & social crisis, I would look for the murder rates to surge in the US...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Again drugs, or more specifically control of drug distribution could be the main reason for these killings.
    More than likely that is the reason and then they seem to be terribly sensitive to being Dissed, as is a Thai to losing face.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Do black males have the same chances of winning normal jobs as white males or are they just more likely to take the easier way out and deal in drugs to make a living than white males.
    The Blacks tend to live in Ghettos as have the Jews thru history and seem to be lax at moving away from the citys and going to where the jobs are and going into the job market with the gusto of the whites and they seem to know that the powers that be will not let them starve or do without and most are 2nd, 3rd or even 4th generation welfare supported familys.
    I have been in different areas where I have had trouble hiring crews of Black or White, I have even had a contract with a trades school to supply all my welders and helpers because I could not get workers from the general public even tho I was paying above the area normal wages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Is society again to blame and will Obama be able to solve this cancer amongst black males.....??????
    No, Obama will not be able to do anything about it except to raise the welfare payments, which will do no good and then the tax payers will revolt and he will have more trouble than what is already there.
    The slaves were brought over and sent to different slave holders who cared for them with food, housing and medical care, they were made to work under direct supervision and told everything to do, since their emancipation they have been under the care and support of the government or from land holders that they have worked directly for and been given their needs.

    It seems that they are incapable of living a normal life and caring for themselves the same as other races of people do and seem to be dependant on someone to guide them thru life.

    The Blacks did OK as long as the Belgium's were running Rwanda, but since their ouster and the forming of Zimbabwe they have had a hard row to hoe and it just isn't possible for them to do anything for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswulf
    So, the murder rate in the so-called Land of the Free is more than 10 times that in Singapore.
    Well maybe there is a bit more killing in the USA than in Sing. but there is no way to compare the 2 places, Sing is for damn sure not a very free country to live in, as you can do nothing without the king or country looking down your neck and there is not really a very accurate way to compare so small a place with one as large as the USA, and then they do not have the blacks killing each other at such a rate, so do you want to count blacks killing then look to about anywhere in
    africa and then count em, but you will not be able to seperate the Blacks and the white count in the USA because that would not be Politically correct as it might make the blacks look bad and we can have none of that.

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    As I said, why ignore the stats of Swaziland and Somalia, the US looks quite civilised by comparison.

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    The NAACP's ludicrous idea to sue gun manufacturers is yet another attempt by the left to avoid personal responsibility for some individuals' bad behavior.
    - - - - - - - - - - - -
    By David Horowitz
    When the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People announced plans recently to file an injunctive class-action suit "to force [gun manufacturers] to distribute their product responsibly," the NAACP president, Kweisi Mfume, noted that gun violence takes a disproportionately high toll among young black males.
    According to an NAACP press release, African-American males between the ages of 15 and 24 are almost five times more likely to be injured by firearms than are white males in the same age group. "Firearm homicide has been the leading cause of death among young African-American males for nearly 30 years," it stated.
    Am I alone in seeing this as an absurd act of political desperation by the civil rights establishment? What's next? Will Irish-Americans sue whiskey distillers, or Jews the gas company?
    That last analogy only works, of course, for those who think the Holocaust was a self-inflicted wound. In fact, black leaders have already accused white and Korean liquor vendors of "invading" black communities and intoxicating their inhabitants. Boycotts have followed these charges, and anti-white, anti-Korean race riots as well.
    But who forces alcohol down reluctant throats? And who makes guns shoot in ways that victimize blacks more than whites?
    How can the NAACP even make the comparison between gun deaths of blacks and whites, if not as a racist insinuation that whites are somehow the cause of those "disproportionate" violent deaths, just as whites are the implied cause of nearly every other social pathology that afflicts the African-American community?

    In the sociology of the left, including the NAACP, there cannot be a wound the black community inflicts on itself that is not ultimately the responsibility of malicious whites. To think otherwise would be to "blame the victim." Only mean-spirited conservatives (like me) would even think of doing that.
    The fact is that while blacks make up only 12 percent of the population, they account for 46 percent of total violent crime and 90 percent of the murders of other blacks. It is they, not whites or gun manufacturers, who are responsible for the disproportionate gun deaths of young black males.
    Firearms don't kill people. Sociopaths do. It takes a human brain to pull the trigger. If young black males abuse firearms in an irresponsible and criminal fashion, why should the firearm industry be held accountable? Why not their parents? Why not themselves?
    Unfortunately, as a nation we have become so trapped in the melodrama of black victimization and white oppression that we are in danger of losing all sense of proportion. If blacks are oppressed in America, why isn't there a black exodus? Why do all those black Haitians want to come here? To be oppressed?
    Salon Column | Guns don't kill black people, other blacks do

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    ^ Everyone knows that guns don't kill people, they are merely the vehicle in the violent intent of someone bent on murder... It's just much easy to point and pull a trigger than to beat someone to death with a shovel...

    Perhaps they should sue the government to repeal the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution... Which ain't gonna happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Sing is for damn sure not a very free country to live in, as you can do nothing without the king or country looking down your neck
    Yes, the King of Singapore has almighty powers . . . and the gun-possession laws are very, very strict.

    Now when we discuss the 'right' to bear arms as outlined in the constitution - - - which seems such an inalienable document . . . old and outdated rules stemming from 200 years ago should be amended with time . . . shouldn't they? Even the Constitution?

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    Sure they should, so should the rules on "Search and seizure", and how about the rights to worship the god of your choice, I think that one should be changed, and the one about A trial by jury of your peers,, now thats a fucking laugh, pobly more fair to be judged by HRH..

    Yessir sure be better to have a flaming anarchist like you,, You would prefer it to be just like Burma wouldn't you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswulf
    Is that so much more important than the right to have a firearm and blow holes in anyone who "disses" you?
    Well OSWULF, you must be a kraut, but I sure am glad that you ain't a yank, you are no where near advanced or grown to an adult yet to be able to have the rights of an American to keep and bear arms, that takes a special person, as this thread states even tho Blacks are born in the USA they must make a stipulation that they are not pure breed Americans. but are in fact African Americans, but due to their birth in the USA we do for some reason let them have full coverage of the Constitution of The United States of America..
    But as you can see, they are in no way qualified mentally to carry/own guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post

    Did my quip about the King of Singapore go completely unnoticed?
    Pretty much...

    Singapore is a tiny little city-state where controls are easily exacted. Apples / Oranges...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Most of the stuff you post goes unnoticed by most of us..
    You are the majority of one?


    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Pretty much...
    - Curses . . . though I did get two greens for it . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Singapore is a tiny little city-state where controls are easily exacted. Apples / Oranges...
    - Of course it is a bad comparison, agreed, it just harks back to a comment BG made that the UK has th strictest gun laws around . . .

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    Personally, I support the right to bear arms. But I find it funny when the same people that bring up the constitutional right to bear them, are the same ones that elect governments that strip away many of the other rights mentioned in the constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    It seems that they are incapable of living a normal life and caring for themselves the same as other races of people do and seem to be dependant on someone to guide them thru life.

    The Blacks did OK as long as the Belgium's were running Rwanda, but since their ouster and the forming of Zimbabwe they have had a hard row to hoe and it just isn't possible for them to do anything for themselves.
    You are MAJORLY mixing Apples and Oranges, under the singular heading of Blacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    they are not pure breed Americans but are in fact African Americans
    are pure breed Americans the ones with the white skins, closely related to the pure breed Australians? hope you don't incude the crauts and frogs in that group.

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    I didn't know there was something like a "pure breed" American.

    They're all mixed breeds, blackgang has a fair bit of Kraut in him.
    But they have managed to keep their genes within the family in some parts, with a bit of black or latino thrown in - ye know, like one can only be 100% sure about who the mother is.

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    native American:



    New American:



    Blackgang:


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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    native American:


    Looks like he's got some black genes in him,, sure not the same as a superior pure-breed like blackgang.

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    Native Australians. They get peace, respect and prosperity.


    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    The NAACP's ludicrous idea to sue gun manufacturers is yet another attempt by the left to avoid personal responsibility for some individuals' bad behavior.
    Sue gun mfgs? What for? Most of the blacks steal their guns anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Personally, I support the right to bear arms. But I find it funny when the same people that bring up the constitutional right to bear them, are the same ones that elect governments that strip away many of the other rights mentioned in the constitution.
    What are you on about, Pick? Gay marriage? If it's the privacy laws, hey, during wartime, things change to protect the nation.

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