Not only Tamales and Tortillas, look what else the Beaners brought

[blackgang]

AIDS among Latinos on rise - Washington Post - MSNBC.com
SAN YSIDRO, Calif. - AIDS rates in the nation's Latino community are increasing and, with little notice, have reached what experts are calling a simmering public health crisis.
Though Hispanics make up about 14 percent of the U.S. population, they represented 22 percent of new HIV and AIDS diagnoses tallied by federal officials in 2006. According to a survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation, Hispanics in the District have the highest rate of new AIDS cases in the country.
So far, the toll of AIDS in the nation's largest and fastest-growing minority population has mostly been overshadowed by the epidemic among African Americans and gay white men. Yet in major U.S. cities, as many as 1 in 4 gay Hispanic men has HIV, a rate on par with sub-Saharan Africa.

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Yet in major U.S. cities, as many as 1 in 4 gay Hispanic men has HIV, a rate on par with sub-Saharan Africa.

I regretfully have always been skeptical about the impact Hispanics will have on the the US has their population increases. The high school graduation rate of Hispanics is less than 50%.

Their population is exploding. The US will be affected negatively by this, IMO.

[flash]

the American economy would collapse without the Hispanics

[barbaro]

the American economy would collapse without the Hispanics

I've never seen stats or evidence of a "collapse" but it would hurt certain industries.

This is not related to some of the issues that the Hispanic community should attempt to address.

[Bugs]

The Aids and the HS drop out rates are all linked to poverty. The poor always suffer more.

Much of the Hispanic population come seeking the American dream, they start out in low paying jobs that force the families to live in poverty. US companies want the Hispanics to provide low cost labor; low cost labor basically means poverty level subsistence; which means Hispanics suffer from more health related problems and tend to end up with little/no real education - or future. The little/no education helps to ensure the US labor market with those willing to work for substance wages – and thus no real chance to obtain the American dream.

Until the US is able to realistically address the issue of poverty, and how those with limited skills/education can fit into our 21st century economy as equal members of society, we will continue to see folks suffer from the cycle of poverty.

[reinvented]

on ajarn some guy was saying he'd just been mugged by dagos in miami, sounded in a bad way
ever considered throwing them out?

[Texpat]

the American economy would collapse without the Hispanics

Please, tell us more about America!

[blackgang]

the American economy would collapse without the Hispanics

The economy was not built on wetbacks, but them coming in such great numbers has had a bad effect on what economy that there is now,
People that are really unfamiliar with that range of the economy seem to think it would collapse without illegals, it would not, the wages and treatment of workers might have to change some but it would rock along just as it has for the last 100 years. And before the days of mass illegal immigration the economy was always on a upward spiral, and since the flooding of the market with illegals it has changed from continually upward to a continually downward trend because each new batch of illegals for the next harvest or building cycle has increased the numbers so much that the employers can lower standards and pay and can still have wetbacks competing for the few jobs.
Anytime that you have an over supply of labor you will have decreasing quality of treatment,wages, benefits and working conditions.,.
If all illegals were deported then sure there would be a shake up and a panic in that area of labor, but it would soon level off, conditions would immediately raise along with wages, and then the market would have to go back to Bracero labor being allowed in with proper documentation but would not be a flood of undocumented like is now cutting each others throat for working for lower and lower wages,, conditions for labor could be monitored and there would be Americans and legal workers filling most jobs,, with Bracero/guest workers filling only the surplus jobs, not taking jobs away from citizens.

[barbaro]

on ajarn some guy was saying he'd just been mugged by dagos in miami, sounded in a bad way
ever considered throwing them out?

dagos (Italians) are a very small percentage of the US population. I don't know the high school drop out rates. It's not about "throwing people out," it's about limiting how many of one particular ethnic/nationality group are coming in and staying, especially if they cannot graduate from high school.

What cities in the US have you lived in?

[barbaro]

the American economy would collapse without the Hispanics

Please, tell us more about America!

A one sentence post stating "economic collapse" but no sources or stats?

A binnable post, for sure.

Please make sure what and how you are contributing. Posts like these honestly shouldn't be allowed to stand.

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dagos (Italians)

no they are wops
dagos are any mediterreanean descent in common parleance

it's about limiting how many of one particular ethnic/nationality group are coming in and staying, especially if they cannot graduate from high school. What cities in the US have you lived in?

i agree with you but doint see your point
the question is if you have immigrants coming in and breaking the law, can you not throw them out?
im not suggesting interning them like what happened to the nisei
or genocide, but if that group is gangers or whatever can you not get rid of them?
irrelevant if ive lived in any american cities or not

[barbaro]

dagos (Italians)

no they are wops
dagos are any mediterreanean descent in common parleance

US vernacular is different in many areas. I understand. As for Mediterraneans, this means a multitude of nations and the statistical breakdown is negligible. Meaning, this is not an issue in the US, of Greek, Albanian, Italian, Spanish, or former coastal Yugoslav nations. The immigration from here IMO, is not even relevant compared to the tens of millions discussed on this thread.

Apples and Oranges. Pure and simple.

it's about limiting how many of one particular ethnic/nationality group are coming in and staying, especially if they cannot graduate from high school. What cities in the US have you lived in?

reinvented:

i agree with you but doint see your point
the question is if you have immigrants coming in and breaking the law, can you not throw them out?
im not suggesting interning them like what happened to the nisei
or genocide, but if that group is gangers or whatever can you not get rid of them?
irrelevant if ive lived in any american cities or not

This is NOT about throwing people out. It NEVER was. It's about the numbers immigrating and now the AMNESTY issue, which is now the 3rd time in 40 years. You have not experienced nor read about this topic.

Genocide? Now you mentioned genocide. What in the hell are you talking about?

you say it's not relevant if you've lived in the US.

I think it's relevant. In my parent's town, 2 hospitals have had to be closed this year. People are not happy about this, nor about the property taxes they have to pay, nor about the Teasury being drained.

Unless someone is experiencing it firsthand with some issues then others that don't experience it, cannot relate to it.

[ItsRobsLife]

..as many as 1 in 4 gay Hispanic men has HIV.

Perhaps it's time you started wearing condoms then.

[blackgang]

Perhaps it's time you started wearing condoms then.

I has nothing to do with me other than I do have some money in the country, but I never fucked a fag in my life and even now I still only hose females of any species but it happens to be SEA females and mostly Thai.
But I do think that all illegal aliens in the country should be taken to the border and a chip installed and if that chip crosses the border again then they should be executed as habitual criminals because the US is spending to much to maintain life for to many and should not spend money supporting criminal Illegals too.

[raycarey]

I still only hose females of any species

anyway, here's what else comes across the US/Mex border...

The lab at Johns Hopkins Medical Center in Baltimore we’re all gathered in belongs to Dr. Alfredo Quinones-Hinojosa — “Dr. Q.” He is one of the best brain surgeons in the world, but two decades ago, his hands were picking vegetables for $22 a day. Quinones was a migrant worker, living under an old camper top in the middle of a California field.

Once a migrant worker, now a brain surgeon - American Story with Bob Dotson - MSNBC.com