Mans best friend - Be it a pig

[Reaper]

See why you can't trust these South African's! They will bugger you. No wonder they all want to immigrate to New Zealand with all its sheep. Are condoms really that expensive? Why shag a goat or a pig when all you need to do is use a condom!





Umtata (South Africa) - Bestiality has reportedly become a common occurrence in some Transkei communities and those who commit it claim they do it try to and avoid contracting HIV/Aids.


The manager of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) in the Transkei, Bridget Engelbrecht, said on Monday more people were claiming to commit bestiality as they believed they would then avoid getting HIV/Aids.


"Bestiality is common in Transkei. It is happening all the time and local communities appear not to be concerned," said Engelbrecht.


Difficult to catch them in the act

Engelbrecht said the last two cases reported at the SPCA were bestiality committed with a pig and sheep. In both cases, the offenders claimed they did it to avoid contracting HIV/Aids as they knew animals could not transmit the disease.
"Since animals cannot talk, we have to rely on the community to report the cases. But, it is difficult to catch perpetrators in the act," said Engelbrecht.


She said the SPCA tried to educate people about the treatment of animals, but it was difficult as children were not taught from an early age to respect animals.
"People committing bestiality use the fact that they are scared of contracting HIV/Aid as an excuse. It is a ludicrous argument," she said.


Eastern Cape health department spokesperson Mahlubandile Mageda on Monday denied charges that people in rural areas committed bestiality to try and avoid contracting HIV/Aids. "Our campaign and the education department campaigns have educated people in rural areas," he said.


Spokespersons for the SPCA in East London and the Council for Cruelty to Animals in Port Elizabeth said although bestiality took place in the area, the idea that it was done to avoid contracting HIV/Aids was not prevalent.

[Rawaii]

As y father always say: the day they will find some medicine to cure HIV, the next day a worse disease will appear because of such morons...

[tsicar]

See why you can't trust these South African's! They will bugger you. No wonder they all want to immigrate to New Zealand with all its sheep. Are condoms really that expensive? Why shag a goat or a pig when all you need to do is use a condom!
Umtata (South Africa) - Bestiality has reportedly become a common occurrence in some Transkei communities and those who commit it claim they do it try to and avoid contracting HIV/Aids.
"Bestiality is common in Transkei. It is happening all the time and local communities appear not to be concerned," said Engelbrecht.


Difficult to catch them in the act

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reaper, your post should have been under the racism thread.
first, you got your facts wrong. if you were a real south african, you would know that before the coup, transkei was an independant country and was not part of south africa. in recent years the idiots have tried unsucessfully to reincorporate transkei and other independant homelands into south africa.
a person who was born in transkei was a transkeian, not a south african.
i doubt any transkeian has emigrated to new zealand or australia. he would have to work for a living instead of staying in transkei, receiving a free house, water and electricity, to say nothing of an ubundant supply of tight-pussied little piglets to satisfy his perversions.
i have not heard of these guys committing the act of bestiality to combat aids, but there is a belief amongst many of the black population that you can cure aids by raping a baby or very young child, and there have been many of these cases recently.

[Sir Burr]

Gives new meaning to a Winston Churchill quote.

When asked what his favourite animal was, he said "The pig. Cats look down on you, dogs look up to you, but, pigs treat you as an equal".

[stroller]

reaper, your post should have been under the racism thread.

Anything "racist" in reaper's post?

[tsicar]

reaper, your post should have been under the racism thread.

Anything "racist" in reaper's post?

depends how you define a racist:
is it only a pale skinned person who can be called a racist?
or is a racist one who is intolerant or overly critical of another race, and skin colour has nothing to do with it?

if so, reaper's comments and generalisation about south africans is racist.
it seems that there is an outcry and accusations of racism only if the race-group being criticized is a dark skinned one.
i often wonder why racist comments by blacks are ignored, even condoned, when anything remotely critical of a black man or generalisation aimed at black people results in a torrent of accusations of racism. i don't see americans,germans, australians or kiwis on this forum or elsewhere complaining about racist jokes and generalisations aimed at them, but let there be a black man involved..............
i know that reaper's post was made toungue-in-cheek, and my reply was in the same vein, but it has been insinuated by some posters that i am a racist, and the questions i have just raised are valid.

[Ivor Biggun]

I know Tsicar and can state that he is not a racist. He in fact hates everyone.

[stroller]

I can't make much sense of above rambling:

depends how you define a racist: is it only a pale skinned person who can be called a racist? or is a racist one who is intolerant or overly critical of another race, and skin colour has nothing to do with it? if so, reaper's comments and generalisation about south africans is racist. it seems that there is an outcry and accusations of racism only if the race-group being criticized is a dark skinned one.

Oh, are South-Africans a race, a non-dark one - white perhaps?

i don't see americans,germans, australians or kiwis on this forum or elsewhere complaining about racist jokes and generalisations aimed at them

You have not noticed anyone complaining? Strange.
But these are not races, but nationalities.

You are confused.

[Ivor Biggun]

^ Sorry I didn't realise you have a downer on Tsicar. I'll stay out of it.

[stroller]

I don't, just picking on what he posted.

If he wants to make race an issue, let him explain what exactly he is on about.

I guess that, as a South-African, he feels offended by the OP, understandably. Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye, do Reaper and tsicar know each other?

Btw, it is a very strange OP.

[Reaper]

if so, reaper's comments and generalisation about south africans is racist.

Not really. People in SA are so sensitive about colour it is just fun taking the piss at times.

it seems that there is an outcry and accusations of racism only if the race-group being criticized is a dark skinned one.i often wonder why racist comments by blacks are ignored, even condoned.

Oh really:

Ntombenhle Kheswa and Senior Superintendent Phumzo Gela go to the Equality Court alleging her commander told her to ‘pray God makes you white’.

"You black officers are not doing any job at this unit. Only white officers are doing a good job. You must go to church and pray that God makes you white."

i know that reaper's post was made toungue-in-cheek, and my reply was in the same vein.

It's all fun boet. By the way, I don't recall my nanny needing a passport to go to Transkei. That 'country' was only recognised by SA in any event.

[matsalleh]

reaper, your post should have been under the racism thread.

Anything "racist" in reaper's post?

depends how you define a racist:
is it only a pale skinned person who can be called a racist?
or is a racist one who is intolerant or overly critical of another race, and skin colour has nothing to do with it?

if so, reaper's comments and generalisation about south africans is racist.
it seems that there is an outcry and accusations of racism only if the race-group being criticized is a dark skinned one.
i often wonder why racist comments by blacks are ignored, even condoned, when anything remotely critical of a black man or generalisation aimed at black people results in a torrent of accusations of racism. i don't see americans,germans, australians or kiwis on this forum or elsewhere complaining about racist jokes and generalisations aimed at them, but let there be a black man involved..............
i know that reaper's post was made toungue-in-cheek, and my reply was in the same vein, but it has been insinuated by some posters that i am a racist, and the questions i have just raised are valid.

As to racism, just got followuning e-mail:

There is nothing improper about this e-mail.
Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on...

Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?


There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans,
Arab Americans,
Native Americans, etc.
....And then there are just -
Americans.


You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman," ....And that's OK.


But when I call you Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink,
....You call me a racist.


You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?


You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Hispanic History Month.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Asian History Month.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have Yom Hashoah.
You have Kawanza.
You have the NAACP.
And you have BET.


If we had WET (White Entertainment Television)
....We'd be racists.


If we had a White Pride Day
....You would call us racists.


If we had White History Month
....We'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives,
....We'd be racists.


We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce,
and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?


If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships
....You know we'd be racists.


There are over 60 openly-proclaimed Black-only Colleges in the US ,
yet if there were "White-only Colleges"
....THAT would be a racist college.


In the Million-Man March, you believed that you were
marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
....You would call us racists.


You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and red,
and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride
....You call us racists. !


You rob us,
carjack us,
and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer
shoots a black gang member
or beats up a black drug-dealer
who is running from the LAW and
posing a threat to ALL of society
....You call him a racist.


I am proud.
....But, you call me a racist.


Why is it that only whites can be racists?

There is nothing improper about this e-mail.
Let's see which of you
are proud enough to send it on...

[stroller]

There is nothing improper about this e-mail.

Of course not, very informative, lots of things I didn't know about.
These unsourced and unauthored e-mails reveal the truth and add quality comments to threads.

Never mind this blather has nothing to do with South-Africans, or bestiality in Transkei.


I hope you sent this e-mail on to your Thai friends, someone should tell the women to stop buying whitening cream and inform them it is not polite to call whites 'racists':

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and red, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride ....You call us racists. !

I am proud. ....But, you call me a racist.

I have never been called a racist for being proud, strange, that is.

[tsicar]

sorry, duplicate post

[tsicar]

I know Tsicar and can state that he is not a racist. He in fact hates everyone.

yep.
south africans have a long history of hating one another. afrikaans speakers generally do not like english speakers; blacks hate the whites and other blacks from different tribes, and vice versa. nobody likes the bloody foreigners, no matter where they come from. everybody hates the indians, who mostly don't get along with anybody else, either.
so, as you can see, we are all just one big happy family in south africa!

[tsicar]

I don't, just picking on what he posted.

If he wants to make race an issue, let him explain what exactly he is on about.

I guess that, as a South-African, he feels offended by the OP, understandably. Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye, do Reaper and tsicar know each other?

Btw, it is a very strange OP.

as a south african, i am not offended by the post.
reaper and i know each other only on this forum, although since he is a black south african, i probably have reason to have an issue with him.
there is not more to this than meets the eye:- with tsicar, what you see is what you get!

[chinthee]

I know Tsicar and can state that he is not a racist. He in fact hates everyone.

I know him too. You're wrong.

[tsicar]

[quote=Reaper;611939]

It's all fun boet. By the way, I don't recall my nanny needing a passport to go to Transkei. That 'country' was only recognised by SA in any event.

you have just hit the nail on the head. the whole idea behind apartheid (and now i know people are going to call me a racist!) to my mind, was a sound one.
since nobody could get along with one another, the country was carved up into seperate, self-governing regions: if you were born in transkei, you were classified as such and you needed a "passport" and work-permit to work in south africa. same for zululand, venda, bophuthatswana, etc. where the system failed, and became unfair and racist (and i am not talking about "situations" arising from people who abused the system and discriminated unfairly), was that as a white south african, i was not required to carry a passport or have a work permit to work in, say, zululand.
had apartheid been applied fairly and equally, i do not think it could be called a racist policy.
by the way, did anybody know that the indians (and they did not exactly make a big fuss over it) were not allowed to stay overnight in the province of the "orange free state"!
of all the races that made up south africa, they got the worst end of the stick. they were not "white" enough to be classified white under apartheid, nor are they "black" enough to benefit from the policies of the new, "non racist" (!) regime that now "governs" south africa, so what they did was to keep to themselves and to quietly go about their business, and make heaps of money by manipulating the system to their own advantage.

[chinthee]

tsicar, you're wasting your time trying to explain complex racial situations on this board.

[stroller]

as a south african, i am not offended by the post. reaper and i know each other only on this forum, although since he is a black south african, i probably have reason to have an issue with him. there is not more to this than meets the eye:- with tsicar, what you see is what you get!

Thank you, this explains it, a personal spat with an underlying racial issue.

[tsicar]

I can't make much sense of above rambling:

i don't see americans,germans, australians or kiwis on this forum or elsewhere complaining about racist jokes and generalisations aimed at them

You have not noticed anyone complaining? Strange.
But these are not races, but nationalities.


You are confused.

i don't think i am confused.
i understand why you are confused, though: your racial prejudice forces you to categorize people by skin colour. i am supposed to be the racist here, and i do not do that...... (much)
you yourself posted this in the racism thread:

"If you insist that the difference is due to it being different races, then yes.
Is there such a thing like an "Asian" and a "White" race with inherent values?
A lot of goglededoo, as far as I am concerned. It has more to do with culture and education, which are national or regional characteristics."

i am more inclined to classify race according to the above description, and if you have ever been to south africa, and met a real south african "boer", you would know what i am talking about- he belongs to a totally different race.

[tsicar]

[quote=stroller;612537]

quote]Thank you, this explains it, a personal spat with an underlying racial issue.

no spat occurred, no issue, in fact i just greened the bugger in return for the green he gave me. no underlying racial issue, either: i do not believe he is a black man, although i am bloody sure he is a south african.

[Reaper]

if you were a real south african, you would know that before the coup

know each other only on this forum, although since he is a black south african.

do not believe he is a black man, although i am bloody sure he is a south african.

Confusion!

En die drol wat van rascime praat is maar net 'n moffie.

[tsicar]

Confusion!


En die drol wat van rascime praat is maar net 'n moffie.


[/quote]

Confusion! well, it worked, then.
and i agree with you on that one, too, but let's not start on that subject or you will just give him more ammo!
i am gonna go back home to "the lounge" now. issues is too bloody hectic (serious?) for me.

[stroller]

I can't make much sense of above rambling:

i don't see americans,germans, australians or kiwis on this forum or elsewhere complaining about racist jokes and generalisations aimed at them

You have not noticed anyone complaining? Strange.
But these are not races, but nationalities.


You are confused.

i don't think i am confused.
i understand why you are confused, though: your racial prejudice forces you to categorize people by skin colour. i am supposed to be the racist here, and i do not do that...... (much)
you yourself posted this in the racism thread:

"If you insist that the difference is due to it being different races, then yes.
Is there such a thing like an "Asian" and a "White" race with inherent values?
A lot of goglededoo, as far as I am concerned. It has more to do with culture and education, which are national or regional characteristics."

i am more inclined to classify race according to the above description, and if you have ever been to south africa, and met a real south african "boer", you would know what i am talking about- he belongs to a totally different race.

You do not know what you are talking about.

I questioned the validity of associating skin-colour with race, which is the opposite of how you chose to understand my comment.

I have not made any claims as to the 'race' of a "boer", so don't lecture me on something I have not commented on.

"Americans" are not a race. Try again.

Nobody claimed you are a racist so far in this thread, but you sure have a huge chip on your shoulder, Mr. "tsicar" - that much is obvious.

no spat occurred, no issue, in fact i just greened the bugger in return for the green he gave me. no underlying racial issue, either: i do not believe he is a black man, although i am bloody sure he is a south african.

You introduced reaper as a black South-African and accused him of being racist.

Could you make your mind up as to what you want to say, if anything?