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    Quote Originally Posted by Molle View Post
    Not only that but the cost for Brexit now exceeds 47 years of Britains net EU contribution.
    I've read this in several places and think it originated from a bloomberg article, but could easily be wrong. Fact check states that it is wrong, however, it won't be very long until the economic loss is greater.

    I recall the Brexit campaign using actual figures rather than %budget to make contributions seem ridiculously high. That and the immigration numbers were probably the main reasons for the swing to brexit.

    Farage still stating Brexit was a success and it's ll other people's fault for any failings. Well, he would wouldn't he. Just like the vetting of Reform candidates was not his fault, despite him being the owner and the vetting company used was more a do it yourself service.

    How do people fall for spivs like Farage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    weakened Europe for Putin and the fascist wings

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    The losses as measured by lack of growth and contraction in GDP since Brexit equate to £100 billions annually with a forecast that is pessimistic for at least the next decade. Given that our net contribution was around £10 billions on average one can see where the statistic quoted by Bloomberg economists comes from. The impact of Brexit on the economy has been a reduction in GDP of between 4% and 6%, from a total of around £2 trillion.

    As I said at the time, our unfettered trade with our EU neighbours and membership of the single market fuelled by the advantages of free movement accounted for over 13% of our GDP annually.

    Cutting ourselves off from that market has been a catastrophe with the bizarre destruction of the UK farming industry perhaps the most perverse result and has truly shown to the world that Britain has lost its mind.
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    like all politicians and the pond life that sustains them, SAs life as a dour faceless westminster salaryman slave, marinated for years in a cocoon of humourless robotic committees, statistics, spreadsheets and govspeak has numbed his powers of independent reasoning and rendered him unable to understand the needs, desires, aspirations, challenges and feelings of those who actually work for a living and understand life.

    badenoch, braverman and farage are needed to stop this lemmings leap to the left and restore some dignity to the british people.

    it wont happen of course, at least this time, but once the country, impoverished, silenced and shivering sees what a few years of lefty woke green nonsense flavoured with the increasingly sectarian demands of the islamic angries brings, then reality will hit home.

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    Do you wonder what life would have been like if you had kept your foreskin, Tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    prone to racism
    Aren't you with your calling ethnics as 'coons' etc?

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    Mostly irony, Prag. But in any event I wouldn’t build a doctrine upon it.

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    It isn't remotely 'ironic'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Do you wonder what life would have been like if you had kept your foreskin, Tax?
    cheesier probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    There was a referendum on this in May 2011. Very poor media coverage, very poor turn out (~42%) and a majority (~68%) against.

    You can't trust the public to vote on these things because they are led by what the media decide they should think, just like Brexit.
    My apologies, I got this wrong. I always thought it was a referendum on PR, but it wasn't. I guess I thought it was because Lib Dems have been wanting it since I can remember.
    Anyway, Clegg ended up agreeing to a referendum on the Alternative Vote system. The one where you get first and second choices, still constituency based and pretty shitty system.
    No wonder it was a poor turnout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The only party worth voting for is one that brings the UK swiftly back into the EU.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Is there a party with that in its manifesto, Troy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Both the Lib Dems and the Green Party are pro EU and would establish improved relations.
    The Lib-dems manifesto says they want to rejoin the single market and re-join the EU in the longer term.

    , we would aim to place the UK-EU relationship on a more formal and stable footing by seeking to join the Single Market.
    All these measures will help to restore the British economy and the prosperity and opportunities of its citizens, and are also essential steps on the road to EU membership, which remains our longer-term objective.

    https://www.libdems.org.uk/fileadmin...festo_2024.pdf

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    It looks like the Green Party is the best option for you, Troy. They want to rejoin the EU asap.



    The Green Party wants to see the UK:
    Rejoin and play its full part in the family of nations that is the European Union, as soon as possible

    https://greenparty.org.uk/app/upload...with-cover.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Rejoin and play its full part in the family of nations that is the European Union, as soon as possible
    I think it is better to go slow but steady like the Lib-dems want to.
    It will take time for Brittons to get used to the Euro and the International Systems of Units

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    The Lib Dems still haven't been forgiven for their back pedaling on university tuition fees.

    The whole party is a joke.

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    What about Labour, Joe? Have you forgiven them for their policy of a second Brexit referendum to overturn the result of the first one?

    And do you trust them not to do it again?

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    I don't trust any of them to do anything.

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    I doubt the EU wants the British back in the EU. At least, within the next decade. The British government and many British MPs have behaved as if they're bat shit crazy on EU matters for ages.

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    Briiliant Joe (90) Walker, green owed the ads hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    What about Labour, Joe? Have you forgiven them for their policy of a second Brexit referendum to overturn the result of the first one?

    And do you trust them not to do it again?
    If you overturn a referendum so soon after it has been held, you will pay the price.

    We tried that and the country never really recovered
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    I don't trust any of them to do anything.
    Sensible approach.

    Can't go wrong with that

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    ^ Well, there's still 31% that think Brexit was a good idea.

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    So, what's this week's Tory scandal/massive fvk up going to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    So, what's this week's Tory scandal/massive fvk up going to be?
    It could be that someone will commit a heinous crime against grammar or punctuation.


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    Notice how TD's more simple-minded tories hate posting about the thread topic?


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    Brexit has put a stake through the Brexitory heart.

    I said it would destroy the Conservative party and in eight short years after five successive governments of the untalented, the stupid, the greedy, the corrupted and the merely incompetent, after four short lived and useless PMs, it’s now dead and awaiting burial.

    Even Corbyn looks good now.

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    covid generosity payback taxes, putin, a piece of cake, a media pile on and cowardly lurch to the left have made the Tories unelectable ..... this time.


    Labour will last one term before they have sickened and impoverished the country with their wokery, their greenery, their so called equality and their kowtowing to homegrown in name only ragheads.

    We'll be back.


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