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    The sheer idiocy of Numfuktwat knows no bounds.

    Just how the fuck could Labour be worse?

    After 14 years of continuous rule the Tories have :

    1. Run the armed forces into the ground.

    2. Made the property market utterly dysfunctional

    3. Created more poverty among children than since British post war recovery.

    4. Crippled the NHS.

    5. Crippled the agriculture industry.

    6. Increased debt to 100% of GDP.

    7. Impoverished education by neglecting the infrastructure and denuding the system of teachers.

    8. Turned the highways into a third world network of neglect.

    9. Paralysed public transport and seen the privatised rail network receive more subsidy than British Rail received.

    10. Turned the UK into the worst performing economy of the G7.

    12. Overseen a disastrous Brexit whereby the economy has lost 4%-6% of GDP costing Britain £100 billions annually.

    13. Seen net migration increase by 100% since 2016.

    14. Overseen an explosion in corruption, crony capitalism and incompetent waste amounting to over £100 billions.

    15. Turned our rivers, streams, canals and coastal waters into sewers and cesspits while permitting private companies to extort revenue and hand out premiums to carpetbaggers and their shills.

    16. Increased inflation crippling the incomes of over 20 millions through fiscal incompetence not seen since the South Sea Bubble.

    17. Forced 2 million to live off charity for their food and heating.

    You gormless ditch digging oik, taxes will rise in order to put right what the Tory filth have done.

    And itÂ’s on you, you lower class scum, sucking on the teat of your masters.

    You fucking eejit.

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    Point out wherei said they'd be worse? I have no faith in either main party. Now we've clarified that can you get back to being angry at the country and people you've pigeonholed yourself in

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    You think that flipflop starmer will make all well in the UK. You only have to look at what labour do in the areas they control.
    Either you are more stupid than we all took you for or English is not your first language.

    Still, after a lifetime grubbing away in the dirt and the shop floor I should imagine basic comprehension has passed you by, you eejit.

    Lammy will be worse than Johnson, Raab, Truss and Cleverly????????

    You truly are a fucking moron.

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    ^ yes, yes, keep waving your walking stick at the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    Sunak was an idiot to call the election when he did..
    He did so to get it done before peak season for the Channel dinghies.

    Why does David Lammy trigger you so?

    He can't be any worse than pig lover Cameron.

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    ELECTIONS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM


    British Tim votes in the parliamentary election from his sofa in Denmark: 'It's smashing easy'


    The polling stations in Britain opened this morning, and here Britons can vote for themselves - and for a friend.

    Tim Heymerdinger moved to Denmark five years ago. From his home in Odder, he talks to his friend Guy Jones, who goes to the voting booth and puts the cross for him and his wife in the UK.

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    Britiske Tim stemmer til parlamentsvalget fra sin sofa i Danmark: '''Det er smaddernemt''' | Valg i Storbritannien | DR


    While the British go to the polls in the UK, the British Tim Heymerdinger sits on his sofa in the East Jutland town of Odder.

    But even though he is far from the voting booth, he still makes sure that the cross is set for the parliamentary election. Both for himself and his wife Angela.

    It takes place via an iPad and an appointment with Tim's good friend, Guy Jones, in the UK. He has promised to go to the voting booth for Tim and Angela.

    It is possible to vote 'by proxy' in the UK: That is, one person votes for another.

    "I owe you a curry the next time I'm in Milton Keynes," Tim Heymerdinger says gratefully as he waves goodbye to his on-screen friend.

    Milton Keynes is a city north of London.

    Also read: Today, the British go to the polls: They can give Labour a historic victory, but get the most distorted election result ever
    Two crosses for Labour


    British politics means a lot to Tim Heymerdinger, he says.

    He and his wife moved from the UK five years ago because of Brexit and the political turn in the UK, which they did not like.

    Today, they can thank the British electoral system and their friend, Guy Jones, for the fact that two crosses have been put with the Labour Party – from a sofa in Odder.

    In the opinion polls, the old Labor Party stands to have a landslide election - and perhaps even put an end to 14 years with the Conservatives at the helm. However, nothing has been decided yet, and the first exit poll is expected at 23:00 Danish time, when the polling stations in the UK are closed.

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    I predict the biggest defeat for the Tories in the history of British politics!

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    Got my vote in..

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    UK voting intentions by drinking preferences.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Made the property market utterly dysfunctional
    Talked to a Brit friend at our annual 4th get together. He has been though hell trying to sell his home in London. Has had a female buyer with the needed financing 3 times but all fell though when the buyer of her house failed to get financing. So he has an empty house which he has to pay 400 pounds per month for electricity even though none is used.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    £400 a month is a bit steep for a single utility standing charge!

    Maybe for all the utilities and council tax combined.

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    Hail Starmer the new PM 410 seats!

    A scary record .

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    Tories and SNP are history !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    £400 a month is a bit steep for a single utility standing charge!
    Might be a bit off on that. It was 4 beer Lao's into the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Tories and SNP are history !!
    Liberals expect to get 410 seats based on exit polls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The sheer idiocy of Numfuktwat knows no bounds.

    Just how the fuck could Labour be worse?

    After 14 years of continuous rule the Tories have :

    1. Run the armed forces into the ground.

    2. Made the property market utterly dysfunctional

    3. Created more poverty among children than since British post war recovery.

    4. Crippled the NHS.

    5. Crippled the agriculture industry.

    6. Increased debt to 100% of GDP.

    7. Impoverished education by neglecting the infrastructure and denuding the system of teachers.

    8. Turned the highways into a third world network of neglect.

    9. Paralysed public transport and seen the privatised rail network receive more subsidy than British Rail received.

    10. Turned the UK into the worst performing economy of the G7.

    12. Overseen a disastrous Brexit whereby the economy has lost 4%-6% of GDP costing Britain £100 billions annually.

    13. Seen net migration increase by 100% since 2016.

    14. Overseen an explosion in corruption, crony capitalism and incompetent waste amounting to over £100 billions.

    15. Turned our rivers, streams, canals and coastal waters into sewers and cesspits while permitting private companies to extort revenue and hand out premiums to carpetbaggers and their shills.

    16. Increased inflation crippling the incomes of over 20 millions through fiscal incompetence not seen since the South Sea Bubble.

    17. Forced 2 million to live off charity for their food and heating.

    You gormless ditch digging oik, taxes will rise in order to put right what the Tory filth have done.

    And itÂ’s on you, you lower class scum, sucking on the teat of your masters.

    You fucking eejit.
    I'd pretty much agree with all that. And I'd add that the Tories have also really damaged Britain's reputation in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    I predict the biggest defeat for the Tories in the history of British politics!
    A bit like 'harry's' weather forecasts, that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Run the armed forces into the ground.
    Strange coincidence that, as I was stationed in Germany in 1970-1 and spares for our tanks were none existent. Parked up in a secluded area we had about 4 tanks mothballed for war stock/reserve. There was no choice in it but to cannabises those to keep others functioning. Those were the bad old days of shitty Harold Wilson (Lab).

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    So, what's the strange coincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    what's the strange coincidence?
    That neither party is perfect.

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    We warned the Tory leadership that catastrophe was coming. Now they must go and never be seen again


    DAVID FROST
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    Professor Norman Dixon’s landmark book, On the Psychology of Military Incompetence, showed how and why certain generals, seemingly well trained, clever, fitted for the job, nevertheless failed catastrophically at the job they were given.

    In a case study of the failed British defence of Singapore in 1942, Dixon wrote that “the more events proved them to be wrong, the stronger their defences became against admitting this to be the case”, and that General Percival, their highly intelligent commander, showed “ineffectual leadership”: “passivity and courtesy, rigidity and obstinacy, procrastination, gentleness, and dogmatism”.

    Overall, he identified a tendency to ignore inconvenient facts, to stay in well-trodden comfort zones and stick to routines and actions that had served them well in previous roles, to obsess about second-order issues rather than get to grips with the core problems, and to be frozen by indecision at critical moments.

    Remind you of anything? Perhaps, were he writing today, Professor Dixon would be tempted to pen On the Psychology of Political Incompetence. After all, the traits he identified have all been readily visible at the top of the Conservative Party in the last year.

    That’s why we have tonight’s disastrous result – and a disaster it is, if not quite the utter wipe-out some predicted. The strategy chosen by the outgoing Tory leadership – to ignore the 2019 electoral coalition and political realignment, to pretend Brexit never happened, and to tilt Left-wards away from actual conservatism – was a comfort zone plan, not one that engaged with the reality of the political situation. It was compounded by the inability to deliver anything important, the repeated failure to get to grips with illegal immigration, and the view that legal migration didn’t matter, and the obsession with second order issues like the smoking ban. And the polls fell consistently as all this became more and more obvious to Conservative voters.

    Many of us, beginning with Suella Braverman in her powerful resignation letter last autumn, have been pointing out that catastrophe was coming. We might as well have talked to the wall. The clique around the Prime Minister knew better. As poll after poll predicted disaster, we were told that Downing Street knew best. Like General Percival, the more events worsened, the more they clung to their analysis. Those of us who wanted to save something of the party while it was still possible were frozen out.

    In recent days, this has all been coupled with an air of entitlement entirely unjustified by the conduct of the campaign. The leadership seemed to believe that, whatever its errors, whatever its failure to deliver, the Conservative Party had an absolute right to occupy the Right of British politics. Nigel Farage and Reform were treated as if they were the tenantry arriving at the front door with pitchforks, or uppity domestic staff disrupting the smooth running of a stately home, rather than people who had actual grievances and had every right to make their case. The leadership of the party have simply failed to realise that trust in them is broken and instinctual loyalty to the party is largely gone. Hence tonight’s result.

    Decent man though he is, Rishi Sunak’s brief, tragic premiership has ended, and it is best that it has done so, though I wish it could have been sooner. He never seemed to understand the skills needed to lead, and all he and the group of mediocrities and nonentities around him were able to achieve was stop anyone else doing so instead. Some of them will no doubt be paying the price before tonight is out, as, unhappily, will large numbers of good conservative MPs, too.

    All that is left now is a rebuilding job, and it’s a huge one. Discussion of that can wait – though not for long. What is clear is that those directly responsible for tonight’s disaster – the leadership, the accommodationist grandees, the defeatist commentators around them – can’t be part of the reconstruction. They need to go and not be seen again. Then the Right of centre in British politics, those with actual conservative beliefs, whatever party they are in, can start to do what is necessary: unite behind a conservative vision with a coherent set of policies and the determination to deliver them. That is going to take time. All the more need to start soon.


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