Thread: The 2024 UK General Election

Originally Posted by cyrille

You and your catamite?

I am quite sure that others recognise a person who tells lies and persistently refuses to acknowledge that. Especially when you are given so many opportunities to do so, and you decline every time you are reminded of it!

Originally Posted by Switch

you decline every time you are reminded of it!

Which in all fairness is quite often

Originally Posted by helge

Which in all fairness is quite often

I don’t mind how often a reminder is needed.

^ Like barking at the moon...sometimes it's better to just drop it and get on with life.

Reform UK manifesto, or should I say unsigned contract, is as unworkable as expected.
Net migration to be zero, except for NHS staffing, which will no doubt lead to further exemptions as manpower shortages arise.
Leave the ECHR; didn't the tories also mull over doing this.

Pick up the boat people and dump them back in France.

Drop the net zero emissions policies and go back to fossil fuels.

Do a Liz Truss on the economy.

Not really a protest vote, more hard core ERG crap.

As I thought, he's just an attention seeking whore.

He's a disreputable to$$er, isn't he.

Originally Posted by cyrille

He's a disreputable to$$er, isn't he.

….. and yet, you still keep posting!

Originally Posted by cyrille

He's a disreputable to$$er, isn't he.

More or less that the alternative offerings?

I do like Andrew Marr...



...a little chat with Richard Tice, Chairman of the Reform UK Party.

The biggest lies by politicians this century

WMD - Tony Blair
Brexit - Boris


I'll just leave this here..

Originally Posted by Troy

Like barking at the moon...sometimes it's better to just drop it and get on with life.

Sure

The hatred might blind you

Heard on the news today:

Export-import between Denmark and UK has gone down 2,5 bill danish kroner=approx 300 mill pounds, since Brexit.


That's fucking pennies. UK was always one of our biggest trading partners and the reason/excuse why Denmark had to follow them into the EEC.


All the complaints/hassle with the bureaucracy/paperwork aside, trade seems to continue ...just fine.

So, apart from the lost income, the endless delays, net immigration doubling...

Originally Posted by cyrille

So, apart from the lost income, the endless delays, net immigration doubling...

Yes....

Good summary

The hypocrisy of Sir Keith "kneeler" Starmer.

Starmer’s idiotic worship of the NHS has exposed him for what he really is.

The Labour leader may claim to understand why regular folk would opt to go private if they had the means, but clearly he hasn’t a clue


18 June 2024 • 7:30pm

Unlike Nigel Farage, Sir Keir Starmer has said remarkably little of note during this campaign. Multiple times he has stood beside a sign saying “CHANGE” with his Starmer resting expression – that of a man with excruciating piles lowering himself gingerly onto an inflatable haemorrhoid cushion.

The most radical thing the Labour leader has done in the past month is wear a too-tight white T-shirt to seem cool during the England match. But Sir Keir Starmer KC is most definitely not “one of the lads”. He looked like the branch manager of a second-tier building society whose wife ran off with her Greek paddleboard instructor and is desperately trying to “get back out there”.

Sir Keir finds himself in an awkward position. In two weeks, he is poised to become the least popular candidate ever elected to be prime minister but, bizarrely, also the one with the biggest Parliamentary majority in history. This is either astonishing, depressing or astonishingly depressing, according to taste.

Rishi Sunak continues to be deeply unpopular, with only 20 per cent having a positive view of him (71 per cent negative) last month – a net “favourability score” of –51. That’s about as favourable as the dog who stole the sausages off the Euros barbecue.

Starmer is better liked than his rival, though he is still very unpopular – 34 per cent have a positive view of the Labour leader and 51 per cent think he’s rubbish (a net favourability score of –17). To put that in context, Sir Keir is roughly as popular as Ed “bacon sandwich” Miliband was at the time of the 2015 election. (Miliband, you will recall, led his party to its most stunning defeat since 1983.)

The coming landslide, then, is more a reflection of “disgust at the Tories than delight at what Labour has to offer”, according to polling company Ipsos. Tuesday’s “Don’t risk a generation of socialism” warning from the panicking Conservative hierarchy made me laugh bitterly. This column has been predicting since October 2022 that Tory voters feel so used and abused they could not care less if their party goes up in flames. In fact, they’ll have a whip-round for firelighters. (Fourteen years wearing the noise-cancelling headphones of power meant the Conservative government was deaf to their base, too arrogant and complacent to listen and change course.)

So Starmer and Sunak are not catnip to the electorate; more fox poo. That wily hound dog Farage is happy to roll in it and create a stink.

Under the circumstances, you can see why Starmer might be unwilling to set out post-election plans that could make people dislike him more than they already do. (If the rumoured tax on gardens comes to pass, all I can say is he’d better wear a cricket box to protect his lupins from 10 million pairs of secateurs.)

The one issue on which the Labour leader has been outspoken, impassioned almost, is his refusal to use private healthcare. During a leaders’ debate on ITV, Starmer said that, even if he had a relative stuck on the NHS waiting list for life-saving care, he would refuse to go private. “No, I don’t use private health. I use the NHS,” he averred piously.

For a moment, the mask lifted and you could glimpse the hard-Left ideologue beneath the bland, managerial facade. This is a man who says he would rather family members were left in pain in “our NHS” than dig into his own considerable means to ease their suffering (and shorten the queue for someone who can’t afford to pay), so long as the purity of his socialist principles went unviolated. What sort of human being thinks like that?

Not one that many Labour supporters identify with; 72 per cent told YouGov they would use the private sector to avoid long waiting lists if they could afford to. The Left’s time-honoured tactic of genuflecting to the sacred cow of the NHS doesn’t work anymore. Nor does shaming those (like Farage and Reform) who refuse to bow before this vast, hopeless, bloated bureaucracy with a below-average healthcare system attached.

Too many families have chipped in or taken out a loan to afford a new hip for Mum or Dad. Too many have paid £200 for a scan to accelerate the appalling, shameful and murderous wait for cancer treatment. Too many have had grim personal experiences in the NHS, or seen parents or friends suffer avoidable deaths, to keep the faith as Starmer so stubbornly does.

Shadow health secretary Wes Streeting struck a far more pragmatic note on The Daily T podcast, admitting he had considered going private when he recently found a lump. Streeting, who was treated for kidney cancer three years ago, said, “I was actually terrified. If the NHS can do it within a month, I’m prepared to wait. If it’s going to take longer, for my own peace of mind maybe I should just go and pay for a scan, even though I knew – especially when you’re a Labour shadow health secretary – there’s a real risk of this becoming a media storm. But I think, like lots of people – well, health’s more important.”

What else was Streeting doing but criticising his leader? Ideology is not more important than health, as Starmer claims. Our future secretary of state yesterday signalled he is prepared to go further, saying that a Labour government will buy thousands of private beds to “unblock” a failing NHS and care system. There is “nothing Left wing”, says Streeting “about leaving working-class patients to languish in pain because of middle-class Lefty objections to using the private sector”.

Boom! Yet that inhumanity, the idiotic worship of the NHS by the metropolitan elite, is still a primary tenet of the socialist religion which prevents our country adopting a mixed-provision, high-functioning system that other countries take for granted.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer and shadow health secretary Wes Streeting with staff at Bassetlaw Hospital in Nottinghamshire
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer and shadow health secretary Wes Streeting on a visit to Bassetlaw Hospital in Nottinghamshire CREDIT: Stefan Rousseau
Starmer invariably boasts about his working-class credentials, based on his dad’s ever so ’umble job as a “toolmaker”. The Labour leader has described the rather remote relationship he had with his father, who died in 2018; a “difficult and complicated” man who “kept himself to himself” and was “utterly committed” to caring for Sir Keir’s chronically ill mother.

If you delve a bit further into the family history, you find that, in reality, Rodney Starmer ran the Oxted Tool Company, his own independent tool-making business, until the 1990s. By all accounts, Starmer senior was a highly-proficient self-employed tradesman operating from a rented workshop on an industrial estate, rather than the horny-handed, blue-collar victim of the boss class his son prefers to depict.

(Starmer is also coy about his time at the selective Reigate Grammar School, which became private when he was still a pupil, although he was lucky enough to win a bursary – exactly the kind of top-notch academic education his government plans to deny to children of a similar upwardly mobile background by slapping VAT on school fees. What a hypocrite he is.)

A slippery Starmer has repeatedly ruled out putting up taxes on “working people”. Asked yesterday what he meant by that term, he said “people who rely on our services, and those that don’t really have the ability to write a cheque when they get into trouble”.

Starmer’s own father may not have met this definition, even though Keir seeks to disguise his own privilege by milking his “toolmaker” dad’s working-class credentials. Explain that if you can.

The Telegraph

England will be as dystopian as that shithole Wales after 2 years of Labours socialist driven impoverishment. Socialism NEVER works.

Well, you see Farage as a saviour so, sure, socialism never works for you.

You'd better support the splintering of the already meagre tory vote instead.



Still, everything will be OK with Penny Bouffant, eh?

cyrille, socialism only works for the lazy and the scrounger. socialism seeks to make everyone dependent on an ever expanding and controlling state. it stifles ambition and enterprise. it has never worked. anywhere.

and you of course, mincing around chiang mai in your elephant pants and flip flops after comfortably feathering your nest in the tax free private sector all the while promoting the socialist ethos with sickening enthusiasm, you would be nothing but a dusty old retiree, ekeing out your pension, driving a 20 year old fiesta to tesco in some grubby birmingham sink estate every saturday for your milk and eggs, had you lived according to your principles, but like all socialists, hypocrisy is your aim.
one rule for them, and champagne for you.

come on cyrille, you are a tory. you have lived a tory life, you took the opportunity to better your situation and now reap the rewards of free choice and free enterprise.

come out of that closet, put the hypocrisy behind you and embrace the conservatism that has defined and improved your life.

Originally Posted by taxexile

The hypocrisy of Sir Keith "kneeler" Starmer.



England will be as dystopian as that shithole Wales after 2 years of Labours socialist driven impoverishment. Socialism NEVER works.

I seem to recall the British economy between 1997 and 2008 under the then three consecutive Labour administrations was burgeoning with businesses booming and investment in the public services, including the NHS, was secured through the increased tax revenues.

And what brought it to an end? Now, let me think, what was it?

Oh yes, it comes to me now. A small matter of the private sector comprising financial institutions in the US, UK and several notable European countries decided to embark on a frenzy of greedy and reckless speculation but concealed the fact through a conspiracy of neglect euphemistically described by the chairman of the American Federal Reserve as a policy of moral hazard - they broke their own rules and acted like carpetbagging, charlatans peddling snake oil as the elixir of free enterprise.

It nearly broke the capitalist system funding the world's development, and financial Armageddon was only averted by the combined timely actions of the US and British governments. The roles personally played by Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling were universally recognised as a master class demonstrating how public intervention by a central authority can secure a future environment protecting society from the depredations of the few. The aftermath was considerable and as we all know the subsequent Conservative policy of austerity was the outcome.

Tax, you really are mere fodder for the resurgent fascism that is gaining global popularity. But at least it will fail in Britain.

Responsible government, prudent housekeeping and a restoration of decency is now the future for Britain.

What on earth will the Torygraph do?

You silly old dentist.

the same old drivel from both the spiteful tefler and the pensioned off civil servant.

employees, salarymen, both of you. never had to be responsible for yourselves. of course you are socialists, dependent on those who take the risks, pull the levers, make the investments and most important of all ... do the hard work. telling you robots what to do next.

take that class cyrille, mark mohammeds homework and then test abdul on his 7 times table, and you s.a....get off your fucking arse, print that directive, sharpen those pencils and then count the paperclips. lazy cvunts.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The roles personally played by Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling were universally recognised as a master class....

... of incompetence.

Remember when Brown sold the gold reserves or do you have a memory blackout on that one?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

... of incompetence.

Remember when Brown sold the gold reserves or do you have a memory blackout on that one?

Strewth, ‘Arry, you don’t half make it ‘king obvious you went to a comprehensive.

You silly little estuarine nerd.

Originally Posted by taxexile

the same old drivel from both the spiteful tefler and the pensioned off civil servant.

employees, salarymen, both of you. never had to be responsible for yourselves. of course you are socialists, dependent on those who take the risks, pull the levers, make the investments and most important of all ... do the hard work. telling you robots what to do next.

take that class cyrille, mark mohammeds homework and then test abdul on his 7 times table, and you s.a....get off your fucking arse, print that directive, sharpen those pencils and then count the paperclips. lazy cvunts.

I rather think that round went to me old chap.

Forget Barcelona, itÂ’s overrun with tourists and like Venice is flooded with cruise ship fuckers. The Catalans are getting grumpy too. Also, itÂ’s not that worthy-once youÂ’ve done the Ramblas, Tibidabo and the Gaudi monstrosity, thereÂ’s fuck all to do except mooch about the lanes and eat small plates of things all day.

Istanbul is a far better bet, much more to see, a real taste of cultural crossroads, and simply pootling about the Bosporus and Princes Islands is a joy in itself. Great bars, pubs, clubs and restaurants. The food is good but alas no pork snorkers.

Get yourself into the Pera Palas Hotel off the Istiklal Caddesi and you can pretend youÂ’re in an Agatha Christie murder plot.

One of the truly great world cities.

Agree on Barcelona, though a fortnight there on our honeymoon was superb, that was in '97.

Tax seems to be a bit of a' plodder' on these things, as evidenced by Hua Hin.

Got better things to do than read your puerile insults for the thousandth time too, you fat stumpy slap head.