POTUS 2024 America wrestles with choice

**david44** · 10-11-2023, 12:49 PM

Seems despite all his travails trials Trump may not only be GOP choice but win

Will Old Jo run? or that Loopy Kennedy

Having had a cock and a jock how about a ROCK or Rockwomble even

Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson: I was asked to run for US president by multiple political parties | Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) | The Guardian

Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson: I was asked to run for US president by multiple political parties

Actor and former wrestler says unnamed parties approached him ‘one after the other’ in 2022 after a poll revealed 46% of Americans would support his presidential run

Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson has revealed that multiple political parties approached him last year to see if he would run for US president, after a poll revealed 46% of Americans would support his campaign.

Appearing as the first guest on Trevor Noah’s new Spotify podcast What Now?, the actor and former WWE wrestler said a 2021 poll of 30,000 American adults led to “the parties” contacting him to ask if he was interested in running at the end of 2022.

“That was an interesting poll that happened and I was really moved by that,” Johnson said. “I was really blown away and I was really honoured. I’ll share this little bit with you: at the end of the year in 2022, I got a visit from the parties asking me if I was going to run, and if I could run.

“It was a big deal, and it came out of the blue,” he added. “It was one after the other, and they brought up that poll, and they also brought up their own deep-dive research that would prove that should I ever go down that road [I’d be a real contender]. It was all very surreal because that’s never been my goal. My goal has never been to be in politics. As a matter of fact, there’s a lot about politics that I hate.”

However, Johnson, who has described himself as a “centrist” and “political independent” and publicly endorsed US president Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign, has openly shared his interest in running in the past. In 2016 he told GQ: “I can’t deny that the thought of being governor, the thought of being president, is alluring.” A year later he told Variety the 2024 presidential campaign was a “realistic consideration”.
His sitcom Young Rock even hinges around him running for US president in 2032, with Johnson playing his future self as he gives interviews about moments in his early life that structure every episode.
Responding to the aforementioned poll in 2021, Johnson wrote on Instagram: “I don’t think our Founding Fathers EVER envisioned a six-four, bald, tattooed, half-Black, half-Samoan, tequila drinking, pick up truck driving, fanny pack wearing guy joining their club – but if it ever happens it’d be my honour to serve you, the people.”
But last year he seemed to have changed his mind, telling CBS Mornings it was “off the table” because of his duties as a parent of three daughters, who are now aged 22, seven and five.
“The most important thing to me is being a daddy, number one, especially during this time, this critical time in my daughters’ lives,” he said.
On Noah’s podcast, Johnson said his job as a wrestler often took him away from his eldest daughter, Simone, “and I don’t want that for my little ones now”.
“That was one of my primary discussions with the parties, who were ultimately like, ‘Yeah, but the other ones have done it like this’,” he added.
Johnson didn’t rule out running in the future, telling Noah: “If that’s ultimately what the people would want, then of course I would consider it

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IMHO Crazy as it seems at first reading could he be any worse than Trump?

**Switch** · 10-11-2023, 07:12 PM

Johnson unlikely, but given the alternates of Trump or Biden ………….

Declare anyone who is not eligible for a state pension as qualified.

**david44** · 10-11-2023, 07:53 PM

Yes you would think with over 300 million they could find someone better

**cyrille** · 11-11-2023, 02:29 PM

A significant percentage of the US public has gone stark raving bonkers, so representing them is getting a bit tricky.

**Storekeeper** · 11-11-2023, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

A significant percentage of the US public has gone stark raving bonkers, so representing them is getting a bit tricky.

Nikki Haley would be my choice if I had my druthers. But, I de-registered when I left the states to prevent any absentee ballot being mailed out in my name.

**Bettyboo** · 11-11-2023, 02:56 PM

Would Shirlee Crabtree Jnr have won against Thatcher and Neil Kinnock, and/or run the country better?

**harrybarracuda** · 13-11-2023, 04:06 PM

Well they don't have to worry about Token any more. Although I don't think voters said "Not Now" as much as "Get Fucked".

Republican presidential candidate Tim Scott has announced he is dropping out of the 2024 race, saying voters have been really clear in telling him: "'Not now'."
The South Carolina senator's departure shocked his own campaign staff.

Several told Sky's US partner NBC News they had no prior warning and only found out he was ending his White House bid while watching his surprise announcement on TV.
Mr Scott entered the race in May with high hopes, with millions spent on his behalf by high-profile donors.

**bsnub** · 13-11-2023, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

A significant percentage of the US public has gone stark raving bonkers

Have you seen the streets of London lately?

**Switch** · 14-11-2023, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Have you seen the streets of London lately?

YES, it’s mostly occupied by foreigners, trying to avoid work, and looking forward to a Labour government.

**cyrille** · 14-11-2023, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Have you seen the streets of London lately?

Protests against genocide and a sprinkling of right wing drunks hardly compares to the fruitcakery of Trumptards.

Your silly 'whataboutery' is misplaced.

Originally Posted by Switch

it’s mostly occupied by foreigners, trying to avoid work.

What utter bollocks you post.

**Switch** · 14-11-2023, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Protests against genocide and a sprinkling of right wing drunks hardly compares to the fruitcakery of Trumptards.

Your silly 'whataboutery' is misplaced.

What utter bollocks you post.

Oh my, the irony is strong in this one. When was the last time you were in London, and how did you know all the drunks were right wing? We’re they labeled?

**Seekingasylum** · 14-11-2023, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Switch

YES, it’s mostly occupied by foreigners, trying to avoid work, and looking forward to a Labour government.

That’s a damned lie, you frazzled geriatric loony moondancing Naafi clerk. There were hardly any Welsh at that march.

**david44** · 14-11-2023, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Switch

YES, it’s mostly occupied by foreigners, trying to avoid work, and looking forward to a Labour government.

I read you and Cy and sigh

Occupied is a rather loaded term

You are correct the white Brits ae but 36%
Of course proably and I have no exact data irish Canadaians Americans and Anzacs are invisible
Most of the foreigners are working age and working hardly ever see an English person runnig a corner shop

Many EU and Chinese staff in NHS, many maybe British born Africans and West Indians on the transport network and the cabs I use from the station in Surrey seem to always have Asian sub continent drivers , having lived in India for a year so used to some Hindi I think thses Urdu speakers are from Punjab either Pakistan or Kashmir

Lots of Eu partners of UK citizens or the many Italains, Maltese and E Europeaans Portuguese (Stockwell) Cypriots (N London) who have "dug in"

As to avoid work harder to be sure mnay women of course do the npaid stuff, and like their white equivalents there may be a proprtion who are unemployed of course the illegals and asylum seekers have no recourse to public funds. Lots of Arabs Kurds and in Seeven Sisters Colombians .

This raises the issue of the Black economy , there have always been the Arthur Daley spivs and cash only tradesmen.
The big change is crime, nail bars every where to launder cash take aways, delivered food, massage and vape deliver adevrtised eerywhere plus of course drug mules, drug and people smugglers

I heard there was German family living in free council house at the end of teh Mall with a well know pedo but that maybe gossip.

As to lookin forward to a Labour government , they could hardly look back.
I think jewish wife Sir Keir will have lost the muslim vote over his refusal to back a GAza ceasefire while the polls still show he can win esp as SNP and Tories are in even worse disarray

London is a wonderful multi culturalplace like Bangkok Paris, Copenhagen and Dublin.
I have chosen to retire in sleepy Mt backwater similar to my origins but were I a youngster looking for career, action excitement would certainly be happy to give it a go , it is in many ways better than the swinging 60s which of course hold happy memories of youthful fun and games when we ignored the smog pre Aids !

I hope both you and Cy have the chance to see London again first hand for what it is and no need to agree with me but equally recall the press and social media focus on extremes. London is like most places full of adults who
Get up h, feed kids cat/dog do school run and or public transport to the best job they can find to pay for the tiny piece of real estate they rnet /buy or squat

On reflection the largest change since 60s is the affordability of housing, students and the unemployed used to live in Islington and Notting Hill Gate, Battersea which have all been gentrified!

Even teacherss nurse Policeman without rich parnts cannot get on teh ladder yet council hosuing association lsts decdes so tehy musy pay top whack rents.Where i saty in Surrey modest suburban semis where I grew up are 3k a month and with poss of a buy to let Landlord no fault evictions meaning people have n incentive to improve nor security with a family, As no regime plans to deport the last 5o years of immigrants folks will have to build on green bel, massive high rises like China, accept smaller grubbier untis move to extra long commutes or live with room mates into tehir 30s and 40s when it won't all be like tv show "friends" when you are sharinga room with other folks screaming babies as is the norm in the 3rd world.

From vists to LA SF Toronto and Sydney the housing pressure the same for similar reasons folks want to go to boom towns

**spliff** · 14-11-2023, 10:27 AM

MAGA cuz the way that it is.

**cyrille** · 14-11-2023, 10:53 AM

Why tf are you asking when I was in London when you are posting from Bali, you wittering buffoon?

Well, you are if the authorities haven't caught up with you yet, anyway.

And watch the news. Many were filmed screaming at non-whites nearby about how they were from 'fackin' England' and other English people who weren't white should 'fack off 'ome', you dribbling halfwit.

**Switch** · 14-11-2023, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Why tf are you asking when I was in London when you are posting from Bali, you wittering buffoon?

Well, you are if the authorities haven't caught up with you yet, anyway.

And watch the news. Many were filmed screaming at non-whites nearby about how they were from 'fackin' England' and other English people who weren't white should 'fack off 'ome', you dribbling halfwit.

Unlike you, I watch the news, and also use my own eyes during frequent recent visits to said capital.
Your view is compromised of newsreel of protests, viewed through the lens of those who feed your left wing confirmation bias. That is why I question your most recent and relevant visit to England capital, you fetid moron!

Yes I choose to live in Bali as I have explained to you before, unless you wish to repeat your erroneous lie that my location is subject to any authority other than you. You really are a classless dimwit. I am here legally and I left Thailand by choice. You are unable to prove otherwise you glaring halfwit. Anyone with any personal style or honour would realise that, and withdraw in shame, peddling such nonsense.

Put up, or shut up you festering pile of ignominy.

**Switch** · 15-11-2023, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Switch

Unlike you, I watch the news, and also use my own eyes during frequent recent visits to said capital.
Your view is compromised of newsreel of protests, viewed through the lens of those who feed your left wing confirmation bias. That is why I question your most recent and relevant visit to England capital, you fetid moron!

Yes I choose to live in Bali as I have explained to you before, unless you wish to repeat your erroneous lie that my location is subject to any authority other than you. You really are a classless dimwit. I am here legally and I left Thailand by choice. You are unable to prove otherwise you glaring halfwit. Anyone with any personal style or honour would realise that, and withdraw in shame, peddling such nonsense.

Put up, or shut up you festering pile of ignominy.

Such is your ignorance when found wanting and you still can’t admit that you lied?

**Switch** · 10-01-2024, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Why tf are you asking when I was in London when you are posting from Bali, you wittering buffoon?

Well, you are if the authorities haven't caught up with you yet, anyway.

And watch the news. Many were filmed screaming at non-whites nearby about how they were from 'fackin' England' and other English people who weren't white should 'fack off 'ome', you dribbling halfwit.

Dear Cyrille
Would you care to offer any proof that I was, or I am being pursued by ‘the authorities’? Your assertions about my legal residence of Thailand or Bali (Indonesia) are like you, entirely worthless.

YOU ARE A LIAR!

**Seekingasylum** · 14-11-2023, 11:43 AM

It truly is a testament to the utterly gormless stupidity of the average Septic redneck Republican moron that they still support a seditious, fraudulent, lying pig of a rapist for a POTUS.

These Yanks are fucking dumber than your average jungle monkey or a Russian.

Fucking savages actually. Truly, we are all doomed.

**david44** · 14-11-2023, 11:47 AM

fyi barely a third of Londoners are white British according to 2021 data (wiki link below)
I am in London every summer to unjetlag before visiting nicer parts of UK and Irleand, Chittystan, Cheshire sLYme REGIS Surrey etc

I am lucky to stay in realtively leafy suburbs which actually seem cleaner than my youth and a far wider vatiety of take away food compared to the Fish and Chips, Wimpy, KFC, Chinese or Indian (in fact Hong Kong or Sylheti cuisine ) of my youth.
I enjoyed watching Spurs first game and a few days in CAmden, Lambeth and Hendon due to tube strikes and National Rail cancelling my 130 pounds tickets to Wales ( I was refunded but rail travel was a haphazard nightmare all summer)

However as you travel into the city the litter and graffiti increase and a visit to the Imperial War Museum showed me places I would never venture after dark. There were unending Tube strikes so I walked through wealthy Pimlico across Lambeth Bridge and through the housing proojects called council estates.I took a bus back to Waterloo mainline staion as Lambeth tube closed and was the only white person on a standing room only bus, perhaps all the white people have cars and bikes?
New hazard are bike lanes, interestingly all teh cyclists seem to be white!

The White British population, historically the overwhelming majority, had fallen to 36.8% of the population - down from approximately 90% in 1971, 60% in 2001, and 45% in 2011. The 2021 census indicated that 40.6% of the population were born outside the UK. Over 300 languages are spoken in the region.

Ethnic groups in London - Wikipedia

**Seekingasylum** · 14-11-2023, 12:03 PM

Fuck me, whoudda thunk it, one of the foremost capital cities in the western world is cosmopolitan and full of immigrants!

And they’re mostly not white! Fuck me !

David, why do you post that utter shite.

The world is becoming homogenised, it’s called an inevitable progression.

And I know it’s fucking bizarre but most Africans are black.

And Lyme Regis is a fucking awful ghetto of insufferably smug white middle class day tripping twats and their godawful spoilt over indulged brats.

Beer is far, far better. That is Beer the town, not the drink.

**Shutree** · 14-11-2023, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by david44

New hazard are bike lanes, interestingly all teh cyclists seem to be white!

In my recent experience it was not 'bike lanes' as such that caused the problems, it was cyclists careering around pavements, ignoring traffic lights and riding against the traffic that nearly killed me a few times. Fortunately, I am trained, I live in Isaan so the behaviour is familiar. The main difference here is that you can usually hear the motorcycles coming.

**david44** · 14-11-2023, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Shutree

In my recent experience it was not 'bike lanes' as such that caused the problems, it was cyclists careering around pavements, ignoring traffic lights and riding against the traffic that nearly killed me a few times. Fortunately, I am trained, I live in Isaan so the behaviour is familiar. The main difference here is that you can usually hear the motorcycles coming.

Correct yes on the pavements ignoring the lights etc

Near the Imperial war museum there are bike Lanes made error of thinkinh they would be one way

In many places the bus stops are now on an"island' between the cars and a 2 way cycle lane!!

**Shutree** · 14-11-2023, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by david44

nail bars every where to launder cash

I noticed a lot of nail bars and was told by someone "in the know" that they are cash laundering ventures. However, my own observation was that they seem quite busy and my daughter told me it can be difficult to get an appointment so I am reserving judgment on that one.
To keep this thread resolutely off topic, which is a boring subject, the other thing that is absurdly busy in UK is the NHS. My grandaughter started school this autumn. She still has not been registered with a dental practice because none locally is open to new patients, she has been wait-listed for over two years. My ex-wife travels from Shropshire back to Essex to see the dentist where we used to live because she cannot register in Shropshire. My grandaughter has never seen a doctor, she suffers from eczema every winter and of course Covid made things difficult but I was there when my daughter was trying to arrange an appointment and was refused. Point blank. Apparently A&E is the only option. Bizarre.

**Seekingasylum** · 14-11-2023, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Shutree

I noticed a lot of nail bars and was told by someone "in the know" that they are cash laundering ventures. However, my own observation was that they seem quite busy and my daughter told me it can be difficult to get an appointment so I am reserving judgment on that one.
To keep this thread resolutely off topic, which is a boring subject, the other thing that is absurdly busy in UK is the NHS. My grandaughter started school this autumn. She still has not been registered with a dental practice because none locally is open to new patients, she has been wait-listed for over two years. My ex-wife travels from Shropshire back to Essex to see the dentist where we used to live because she cannot register in Shropshire. My grandaughter has never seen a doctor, she suffers from eczema every winter and of course Covid made things difficult but I was there when my daughter was trying to arrange an appointment and was refused. Point blank. Apparently A&E is the only option. Bizarre.

Nail bars are the purlieu of the Vietnamese immigrants. It just happened that way, but black Brits love flamboyant nails and so demand is there. Money laundering is better served elsewhere, particularly restaurants, clubs, and money service businesses.

The collapse of the GP service nationwide is owed primarily to the Tory reduction in tax free pension building thresholds which essentially made it pointless for thousands of GPs to work full time. The cumulative effect of this since 2016 has been a continuous conversion to part time hours for most practices and after 2020 this peaked in early retirements for many. The current disaster is the consequence of that.

Dentists are by nature a greedy, rapacious breed. Increasingly, NHS care was undermined by the massive defrauding undertaken by dentists up and down the country. The government overhauled the system and tiered work into bands that ring fenced charges. The response by the profession was to quit NHS work entirely and work exclusively in the private sector. The corporate chains moved in and bought out hundreds of independent practitioners and in the end the pricing structure became exorbitantly high and fixed by cartels. There are very few NHS dental practitioners left in private practice. I think some take on children for NHS work. Essentially, dental health is not covered by the NHS in any meaningful sense and follows the American way.

That is why you cannot get an appointment to see your GP and why you must pay handsomely for dental work.

But in terms of hospital care, the NHS has been undermined by thirteen years of Tory mismanagement and under funding.

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