Plans to send some asylum seekers from the UK to Rwanda

**David48atTD** · 16-04-2022, 03:35 PM

So, the UK plans to send some/many asylum seekers from the UK to Rwanda.

Plans to send some asylum seekers from the UK to Rwanda-quiz1-jpg

UK Rwanda asylum plan against international law, says UN refugee agency - BBC News

Is it a good idea or not?

**malmomike77** · 16-04-2022, 03:38 PM

have you developed a stutter Dave

**David48atTD** · 16-04-2022, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by malmomike77

have you developed a stutter Dave

No, I don't think I've ever done a poll here before ... a learning experience.

Poll is open for 2 months

Is anonymous

**Backspin** · 19-04-2022, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

No, I don't think I've ever done a poll here before ... a learning experience.

Poll is open for 2 months

Is anonymous

I'd like to know who the 2 boneheads are that voted for.

**Troy** · 17-04-2022, 01:42 AM

Have to say, it's a little strange to be sending them to a country that has almost double the population density.

I don't think it's ethically correct and question the legality of such an enterprise.

Anyone know how much this is going to cost the UK?

**cyrille** · 17-04-2022, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Troy

Anyone know how much this is going to cost the UK?

Literally nobody has costed it, and personally I don't think it will happen.

It's just a diversion while the country waits to find out how many crimes its PM has committed.

**cyrille** · 23-04-2022, 04:50 PM

Priti Vacant - yet another Tory liar.

**Bonecollector** · 23-04-2022, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Priti Vacant - yet another Tory liar.

and Blair and Labour never lied about anything did they? I am not even a Tory. Quite beneath me to pick 1 of 2 sides, then blindly and fiercely defend them. I would like to have Priti beneath me though meowwwwww

**David48atTD** · 23-04-2022, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Priti Vacant - yet another Tory liar.

https://is-a-[at][at][at][at].com/2021/10/priti-vacant-patel-4/

Interesting website.

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Seems the TD censorship didn't like it, so here

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The force is strong with the TD censorship

Lets try https://is-a-c u n t.com/2021/10/priti-vacant-patel-4/

**malmomike77** · 17-04-2022, 01:47 AM

Most of them are economic migrants, if they were that desperate they'd claim asylum in the first EU country they arrived in. France and the EU in general seem happy to let the trafficking gangs operate on EU territory.

**Bonecollector** · 17-04-2022, 02:00 AM

The quicker they put this into action the better.

The vast majority of these so called refugees are as Mike pointed out, male middle aged economic migrants. They are illegally trying to gain access to a better life by cheating the system and enriching criminals which have God knows what connections. For every economic migrant that we detain and process, a real refugee and his/ her family have to continue waiting and continue suffering, even though they are doing the decent thing by applying the proper and legal way. A number of these economic migrants turn out to be criminals with some pretty nasty backgrounds; they then go on to commit further crimes in the UK, costing the taxpayer further money. This again slows down the intake of real refugees and their families.

We as a country cannot afford to continue in this manner. There are real refugees that we need to be spending our time on and not criminals who put one finger up to our way of life even before they have arrived. The UK is a deeply compassionate country and always will be. However, blind compassion is not only costly but also dangerous to the citizens of the UK who work extremely hard to support our social system.

If you want to come to the UK, you must apply through a British embassy/ consulate or through field offices set up in UN camps.

To be totally honest, migrants from the commonwealth should be the only migrants who can apply accept for special circumstances. Migrants from such country's as Syria should firmly come under the jurisdiction of France. However, as we all know, the French are a bunch of sore losers and are instigating most of the criminality and death on the waves of the channel.

**Neverna** · 17-04-2022, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

If you want to come to the UK, you must apply through a British embassy/ consulate

The problem with that idea is that there is no such thing as a visa for seeking asylum.

Under current UK rules/guidance:

"To be eligible you must have left your country and be unable to go back because you fear persecution."
"You should apply when you arrive in the UK or as soon as you think it would be unsafe for you to return to your own country."

For nationals who ordinarily require a visa to travel to the UK, it makes it very difficult to arrive in the UK legally or without fibbing at some stage. If they manage to get a visa (for study or tourism, for example), that visa will be automatically cancelled once they claim asylum - not that that issue will bother those seeking asylum of course. But without that visa, they will need to arrive illegally - by plane using a forged or fake passport or other subterfuge, or maybe arriving by sea on a boat full of other hopefuls.

For those who don't require a visa before travelling, it is easier to get to the UK and they will be able to claim asylum upon arrival.

**malmomike77** · 17-04-2022, 02:24 AM

I was listening to that cvnt David Lammy on yet another BBC radio discussion with yet another handpicked audience of bleeding heart lefties cheering his every word. God i loath him and the BBC that has become a socialist mouthpiece - i have no problem with genuine asylum seekers but Lammy and the other lefties that largely made up the panel have no answer to the migrant problem, the cost to the UK or the impact they will have on the already stretched social services and local council infra. Its always the same with Labour, they have all the ideas and no way to pay for them or ways to mitigate their impact on the existing population.

The ultimate question is where does this end? and not just for the UK. The Third world/ME coughing out kids with no way to provide for them and the so called first world countries like the UK who are up to the eyes in debt expected to take them in.

**Troy** · 17-04-2022, 05:52 PM

It's also unethical the way the UK admits refugees. They don't need visas, family, or host, to be accepted into the UK. A travel document should be granted to them on arrival.

Asylum seekers are also not illegal immigrants. They are not criminals and should not be treated as such.

Rwanda indeed, should send Priti Patel there for good!

**Neverna** · 17-04-2022, 08:02 PM

I read that the British government would contribute an initial 120 million pounds. I'd say it was open ended after that - if it ever actually flies.

**dirk diggler** · 17-04-2022, 09:37 PM

The way I see it, claiming asylum is when you get to the first safe country after fleeing your own, unsafe country.

Therefor, claiming asylum in the UK should not even exist. Unless you're maybe from Republic of Ireland and shit goes bad.

Iceland, perhaps?

**Neverna** · 17-04-2022, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

The way I see it, claiming asylum is when you get to the first safe country after fleeing your own, unsafe country.

Therefor, claiming asylum in the UK should not even exist. Unless you're maybe from Republic of Ireland and shit goes bad.

Iceland, perhaps?

There is something called air travel. It has been around for a while now. Some people fly to the UK and claim asylum on arrival at the airport.

**David48atTD** · 18-04-2022, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

There is something called air travel. It has been around for a while now. Some people fly to the UK and claim asylum on arrival at the airport.

Do non-citizens have to show a valid visa before checking in for a flight to the UK?

**Neverna** · 18-04-2022, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Do non-citizens have to show a valid visa before checking in for a flight to the UK?

It depends on their nationality. Nationals of some countries require a visa to enter the UK. Nationals of other countries don't. Some nationals even need a visa to transit the UK.

Visa policy of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

https://assets.publishing.service.go..._Sept_2021.pdf

**Troy** · 17-04-2022, 09:52 PM

^ There is no obligation for a refugee or asylum seeker to remain in the first safe country they travel under UN law.

**dirk diggler** · 17-04-2022, 09:58 PM

Ok, I thought otherwise, but when they are willing to embark on a journey through the whole of mainland Europe to get to UK to exploit the system, it's time to review the strictness of your immigration/refugee/asylum laws.

**sabang** · 17-04-2022, 09:59 PM

Thus, they proceed to the richest country. I am rather sick of illegal immigrants and their advocates using us as if we have some sort of 'duty of care' to these people. We don't.
They leave their home country and break the laws of another sovereign nation by entering illegally, so have no right to cherry pick where they are placed. It's that simple.

**Neverna** · 17-04-2022, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Thus, they proceed to the richest country.

"...the vast majority of asylum seekers and refugees are actually hosted in developing countries."

Originally Posted by sabang

I am rather sick of illegal immigrants and their advocates using us as if we have some sort of 'duty of care' to these people. We don't.
They leave their home country and break the laws of another sovereign nation by entering illegally, so have no right to cherry pick where they are placed. It's that simple.

"...usually only a small proportion of asylum applicants in Australia arrive by boat—most arrive by air with a valid visa and then go on to pursue asylum claims."

Asylum seekers and refugees: what are the facts?

– Parliament of Australia

**sabang** · 17-04-2022, 10:24 PM

I doubt the world can ever agree enough to designate some remote island to send all asylum seekers to, while their applications are being processed. Then, if successful, their destination would be allocated by lottery. But that would be nice.

**Looper** · 18-04-2022, 12:11 AM

I think they are only planning to send the stinky single males, so darkest Africa would seem a more than befitting destination.

Long overdue that a clearly advertised distinction was made between males and females when it comes to asylum policy.

Males can jump in teh fuckin sea and drown or be fucked off pronto to darkest Rwanda.

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