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    Two World Leaders Have A Chat.

    They posted their thoughts for us to read. It is rather long, but some may wish to understand their thoughts regarding a number of topics.

    Joint Statement of the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development

    February 4, 2022

    "At the invitation of President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir V. Putin visited China on 4 February 2022. The Heads of State held talks in Beijing and took part in the opening ceremony of the XXIV Olympic Winter Games.The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, hereinafter referred to as the sides, state as follows.

    Today, the world is going through momentous changes, and humanity is entering a new era of rapid development and profound transformation. It sees the development of such processes and phenomena as multipolarity, economic globalization, the advent of information society, cultural diversity, transformation of the global governance architecture and world order; there is increasing interrelation and interdependence between the States; a trend has emerged towards redistribution of power in the world; and the international community is showing a growing demand for the leadership aiming at peaceful and gradual development.

    At the same time, as the pandemic of the new coronavirus infection continues, the international and regional security situation is complicating and the number of global challenges and threats is growing from day to day. Some actors representing but the minority on the international scale continue to advocate unilateral approaches to addressing international issues and resort to force; they interfere in the internal affairs of other states, infringing their legitimate rights and interests, and incite contradictions, differences and confrontation, thus hampering the development and progress of mankind, against the opposition from the international community."

    The statement continues and continues here:

    Joint Statement of the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on the International Relations Entering a New Era and the Global Sustainable Development • President of Russia
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    Change the title of the thread please.
    Two Tyrannical Dictators in prelude to pissing contest!

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    So Mr. Shithole says Vlad is right on Ukraine and Vlad says Mr. Shithole is right on Taiwan.

    Well fucking hell, that's a turn up for the books.


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    President of Russia ... hummm

    Which two world leaders have enshrined themselves (changed the constitution) as political leaders till they die?

    Oh ... Russia and China.

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    I bet this harmless cartoon would be banned by both indignant, paranoid dictators.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Which two world leaders have enshrined themselves (changed the constitution) as political leaders till they die?

    Oh ... Russia and China.


    Untrue, see below.

    What has that to do with the topic? I didn't see any reference in the article calling for Presidential Election changes. A link would suffice.

    Alternatively starting a topic, discussing the differences in the Political leaders' election methods, powers and obligations, is more appropriate. IMHO.


    2024 Russian presidential election


    "Presidential elections are scheduled to be held in Russia in March 2024. In accordance with electoral law, the first round will be held on Sunday, 17 March.[1] The elections will be the first after the 2020 constitutional reforms.
    If no candidate receives more than half the vote, a second round will take place exactly three weeks later on 7 April 2024.[2]

    Incumbent President Vladimir Putin has the right to seek re-election. Despite the two-term limit, Putin has been granted the right to run again for two more terms, after the 2020 constitutional reform. The winner of the election is scheduled to be inaugurated on 7 May 2024.
    [3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_R...ntial_electionTo win the election requires 50+% of the Russian citizen's vote. No mention of until death.

    President of the People's Republic of China


    "The president of the People's Republic of China is the head of state of the People's Republic of China. The role of the president alone is largely ceremonial with limited power.[2] However, as a matter of convention, the presidency is held simultaneously by the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, who also serves as the chairman of the Central Military Commission, thus is often the paramount leader of China.

    The presidency is officially regarded as an institution of the state rather than an administrative post; Under the constitution, the president serves at the pleasure of the National People's Congress (NPC), the highest organ of state power and the legislature, and is not legally vested to take executive action on his own prerogative.[note 1]

    The presidency was first established in the Constitution in 1954 and successively held by Mao Zedong and Liu Shaoqi. Liu fell into political disgrace during the Cultural Revolution, after which the presidency became vacant. The presidency was abolished under the Constitution of 1975, then reinstated in the Constitution of 1982, but with reduced powers. The official English-language translation of the title was "Chairman"; after 1982, this translation was changed to "President", although the Chinese title remains unchanged.[note 2]

    When the current Constitution was adopted in 1982, the presidency was largely ceremonial, with the Premier serving as the head of government and the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China serving as the political leader of the party; three posts were held by different individuals in the 1980s. That said, in reality political power was concentrated in the paramount leader, who controlled the Party and the military from "behind the scenes" without holding any of the three posts. However, presidents Li Xiannian (1983–1988) and Yang Shangkun (1988–1993) were not simple figureheads, but actually significant players in the highest leadership, with their powers deriving from their status of being amongst the Eight Elders, rather than the office of president.[3]

    Since 1993, apart from brief periods of transition, the top leader of China simultaneously serves as the president, the leader of the party (as General Secretary), and the commander-in-chief of the military (as the chairman of the Central Military Commission). This individual then carries out different duties under separate titles. For example, the leader meets foreign dignitaries and receives ambassadors in his capacity as president, issues military directives as Chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC), and upholds party rule as the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

    During the Mao era, there were no term limits for the presidency. Between 1982 and 2018, the constitution stipulated that the president could not serve more than two consecutive terms. In 2018, term limits were abolished, without changing its powers.
    The current president is Xi Jinping, who took office in March 2013, replacing Hu Jintao. He was re-elected in March 2018.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

    The President requires the consent of the National Peoples Congress. The President is not legally vested to take executive action on his own prerogative. No mention of until death.

    Both Presidents have conditions to take or continue to be President of their countries.

    Other countries have differing conditions of "electing" their leaders, as might be expected. In addition, countries have different powers their President may themselves take.

    All, I suspect, have a belief, their own system is the best.

    A search for constitution change delivers this:

    "Do other countries update their constitution?

    Most liberal democracies—including the nice, stable ones in Western Europe—amend their constitutions with great frequency.

    Germany amends its Basic Law almost once per year, and France a bit more than once every two years.

    Indeed, most states in the U.S. amend their constitutions every couple of years."

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    What does two authoritarian dictators fixing it so they stay in power have to do with said authoritarian dictators publicly backing each other?

    How dumb a c u n t are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I bet this harmless cartoon would be banned by both indignant, paranoid dictators.


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    More fun if that was Winnie the Pooh assisting the Ballerina

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