Thread: The View, from China

I wonder how much that cost the chinkies then?

Originally Posted by russellsimpson

No surprise there Mike.

Anybody have a list of who voted which way and who abstained ? I don't want to have to look but I presume a UN website would have it.

It may well be time for some serious restructuring at the UN. Unfortunately when it comes to bread vs principle you can count on bread winning every time. It's pretty simple.

Biden in my opinion has made a serious error in pursuing this 'anybody not for us must be agin us'. Time after time now he losses the gamble.

American tend to be very good at staring at their own belly-buttons. Always have been.
Thanks.

As a Canadian, you have turned navel gazing, fence sitting and ignorance into a fine art. Well done.

Considering you have never once set foot in Mainland China, your ceaseless moralising and pontificating just reeks of bigotry and ignorance. But you never tire of spewing it.

Do you still live in Sanur, Bali, Indonesia? You certainly did, so you must know something about it. So how is that nation addressing it's considerable problems with poverty, urban decay and congestion, and so on? Indonesia, with it's vast population and resources is one to look out for- and you even have something to offer there. Start an Indo thread.

Considering I lived in HK over 12 years, have been to mainland China numerous times, was married to a Chinese wife, speak some Cantonese, and have even lived with a Chinese family (while we were scraping together the deposit for our first apartment in Shatin), I suggest you just stick to being a whiney biatch. Much more your style than trying to pass off as knowing sweet FA about China.

Originally Posted by sabang

Considering you have never once set foot in Mainland China, your ceaseless moralising and pontificating just reeks of bigotry and ignorance. But you never tire of spewing it.

Do you still live in Sanur, Bali, Indonesia? You certainly did, so you must know something about it. So how is that nation addressing it's considerable problems with poverty, urban decay and congestion, and so on? Indonesia, with it's vast population and resources is one to look out for- and you even have something to offer there. Start an Indo thread.

No thanks. I have lived in Sumatra and in Bali. I dont feel the need for poinless pontification like you. Ignorance is your forte. Adeaide must be nice this time of year?
You left HK for a reason!

You left HK for a reason!

Sure- I retired, at 42. Money in my pocket, feeling a bit burnt out, and divorced. I love HK, but to retire there on a decent lifestyle you need lotsa dosh. Most of us expats make our money there, but ultimately move on. Still had that yellow fever however, and after three years in the Adelaide Hills- moved to Thailand.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Nah, the point was that YOU know sweet FA about China

He does know everything he's told to know.

Ignore the Begrudgers.

Chinese people. How they live. Not how some cashed up foreigner lives in China. We all know if you are a foreigner working there your life is better than the natives.

You could say the same in the US. Egalitarian Aussies are often somewhat uncomfortable with what we catch glimpses of ('at a safe distance ') in the USA. We do not understand why, in your wealthy country, minimum wages are less than half ours. Some if us think you are a callous, uncaring society cowering behind a veil of faux Christianity.

What you see in the news is what Americans pull their own arms and legs off about. If you are there, it doesn’t look so bad. And, from what I have seen, Americans live better than Australians.

I really don't think so kitty. I am not talking Ultra high net worth here, of which we have a fair few. I am talking normal folk, and their quality of life in an affluent society.

I’m talking about normal folk in the USA do not live in uninsulated clapboard houses. Even if they are poor.

Originally Posted by misskit

Americans live better than Australians.

But aussies live longer

Maybe they are better at fending off murderous home intruders

Go Aussie


You could make a case about the poorest aussies though (abos), but they choose to live like that, if you know what I mean

Originally Posted by misskit

I’m talking about normal folk in the USA do not live in uninsulated clapboard houses. Even if they are poor.

I would believe you, if it wasn't that you have a tendency to use numbers from the Heritage Foundation.

The right wingers platform/instrument for abolishing all welfare in the US.

Has been since 'Reaganomics' as far as I know

This is developing as a separate thread. it is no longer the view from China, but has morphed into thee view from America. A very different view, from an American and a few outsiders.

Its gone off topic. Perhaps it deserves its own thread?

Our individual philosophies will be a tree with many branches. Same same?

But aussies live longer

So do Chinese actually. Whoddathunk, at the turn of the century that in the year 2021, Chinese longevity would exceed that of the USA. And of course if we look at that 'congested, polluted' place HK- it is the longest in the World! Quite an achievement China. I wonder what the life expectancy was back in Chairman Mao's day?

Originally Posted by sabang

So do Chinese actually. Whoddathunk, at the turn of the century that in the year 2021, Chinese longevity would exceed that of the USA. And of course if we look at that 'congested, polluted' place HK- it is the longest in the World! Quite an achievement China. I wonder what the life expectancy was back in Chairman Mao's day?

Except it doesn’t. China has much lower life expectancy than the USA

Using figures from HK simply demonstrates the huge gap between places of significant western influence such as HK and Macau, compared to mainland China.

Bullshit. In the year 2021 (maybe even 2020), Average Chinese life expectancy exceeded that of the USA for the first time in recorded history. GIYF. It might also interest you to know that average life expectancy in the USA has been dropping slightly- a real testament to their excellent and expensive healthcare system.

I have a Chinese employee in farangland. She's been living in farangland outside China for about 8 years. She's an exellent employee but man, is Taiwan a difficult subject (it's a part of China). I stay away from mentioning Taiwan.

Cuba And China Exceed United States In Life Expectancy, Latest Report Says




Life expectancy for people in Cuba and for China now exceeds that for people born in the United States. Cuba’s LEB rose from 57.6 years in 1950 to 79 years in 2021—an advance of over 21 years. In those years, China’s LEB moved from 43 years to 78.2 years—a 35.2-year increase—and LEB for Americans rose by 7.9 years. The Cuban and Chinese achievements of drastically improving life expectancy in a few years and from very low levels are remarkable.

Cuba And China Exceed United States In Life Expectancy, Latest Report Says - The Hills Times


Depending on the definition and data sets used, the point of convergence could've happened some time ago, in 2020 instead of 2021—and possibly not for the first time.
The CDC's latest U.S. life expectancy statistic—76.1 years in 2021—is lower than China's own life expectancy estimate of 78.2 years in 2021.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-us-life-expectancy-birth-2021-fact-check-1740991


Sulking again, PH?

Originally Posted by 39TG

I have a Chinese employee in farangland. She's been living in farangland outside China for about 8 years. She's an exellent employee but man, is Taiwan a difficult subject (it's a part of China). I stay away from mentioning Taiwan.

Taiwan, HK and Macau all have higher life expectancy than mainland China. I wonder why?

Might it be because they are richer? But that doesn't answer why the USA, which measured by Mean is the World's richest country (measured by Median, it is Oz) now has a lower life expectancy than China. Considering the outsized percentage of their GDP spent on Healthcare, and the Medical and pharmaceutical technology at their disposal- one would have expected better.