Thread: President Joe Biden

Originally Posted by pickel

Do you think he should step aside, Landreth?

Of course not.........

You go home with the one who brought you to the dance. - Gov. Gavin Newsom

At 2:00

You go home with the one who brought you to the dance. - Gov. Gavin Newsom

Yep; that's what it is..........a dance.

I guess that he'll politely decline, when offered the job

Originally Posted by S Landreth

You go home with the one who brought you to the dance.

Even if it means "home" isn't gonna be the White House?

Originally Posted by helge

Yep; that's what it is..........a dance.

I guess that he'll politely decline, when offered the job

Yeah, don't think he wants to get caught up in this mess.
He's waiting for 2028, where he and Ramaswamy will be their parties frontrunners.
Maybe.

^FO Jeff


Top Biden allies say he's still the best bet to win against Trump in November

Top allies of President Joe Biden came to his defense across several news programs on Sunday, acknowledging the president’s subdued debate performance but arguing that he remains the strongest contender against former President Donald Trump in the general election.

“I think he’s the only Democrat who can beat Donald Trump,” Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del, a Biden campaign co-chair, said during an interview on ABC News’ “This Week.” “And let me tell you, we had the single best day of grassroots fundraising after the debate.”

The Biden campaign on Sunday said it had raised $33 million in the time since the debate, of which $26 million came from grassroots donations. Biden's senior adviser Anita Dunn on Saturday also touted the campaign's fundraising numbers during a panel on MSNBC’s “The Weekend." She argued that voters liked Biden’s focus on the issues at the debate rather than Trump’s rhetoric and personality.

“The reality is that I think voters experienced this debate a little differently than perhaps some of the insiders did,” Dunn said. Coons on Sunday also touted the campaign's standing with voters following the debate.

“The first poll that we saw after the debate showed Joe Biden gaining ground on Donald Trump. I understand there’s a lot of hand-wringing and concern and pearl-clutching amongst the commentary — that’s great, that’s expected,” he said.

While some Biden campaign staffers acknowledged his grassroots support, they also referenced internal daily polling that reflected Biden's debate night performance.

"The president is the first to say it was not his best night," Biden campaign pollster Molly Murphy said during an interview on "Inside with Jen Psaki." "We see that in our polls. That is something that we have seen."

"What they also took out of the debate is a majority of people who watched the debate felt like the president talked about issues that they cared about," she added.

Asked whether Biden’s advisers and the campaign bear any responsibility for the performance, Coons also acknowledged that Biden had a “weak debate,” but argued that Trump’s baseless claims amounted to a “horrifying” performance.

America...land of political mess.

Biden’s family reportedly tell him to stay in presidential race as blame shifts to advisers

Joe Biden’s family have urged him stay in the race after a disastrous debate performance last week, according to reports in the US media, as senior democrats and donors have expressed exasperation at how his staff prepared him for the event.

The president gathered with his family at Camp David on Sunday, where discussions were reported to include questions over his political future. It came after days of mounting pressure on Biden, after a debate in which his halting performance highlighted his vulnerabilities and invited calls from pundits, media and voters for him to step aside.

During the meeting at Camp David – which included the president’s wife, children and grandchildren – Biden’s family told him he could still show Americans that he is capable of serving another four years, according to the New York Times.

While his family was reportedly aware of how poorly he performed, they also continue to think he’s the best person to beat Donald Trump.

The Associated Press reported that the strongest voices imploring Biden to resist pressure to drop out were his wife, Jill, and his son Hunter, who last month became the first child of a sitting president to be convicted of a felony after a jury found him guilty of lying about illegal drug use when he bought a handgun in 2018.

The Camp David trip had been previously scheduled, in order to accommodate a photoshoot with Annie Leibovitz for the upcoming Democratic National Convention.

The president’s relatives were also said to be critical of the way his closest advisers had prepared him for the debate.

During the debate, a hoarse-sounding Biden delivered a shaky, halting performance in which he stumbled over his words on several occasions and at times was unable to finish sentences. His opponent, Donald Trump, made a series of falsehoods, including claims that he actually won the 2020 election, which Biden failed to refute.

On Sunday, a narrative blaming the rigorous debate prep calendar which saw Biden sequestered at Camp David for six days, began to build.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...eting-advisers

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Cabbage brain Biden told 18 lies

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but surely Biden has to be removed. The guy is well past it. He is making the US a laughing stock.

If he remains in the contest Trump will romp home.

Originally Posted by britanicus123

Cabbage brain Biden told 18 lies

Could it be "imaginations" ?

He lied all his political life (they do that) but I'm not sure he is capable anymore.


He is dying before our very eyes

Court allows key part of Biden student loan relief plan to resume

A federal appeals court on Sunday ruled that a key part of President Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan can resume after an injunction was placed on the initiative.

The previous injunction on the Saving on Valuable Education (SAVE) repayment plan said that the administration could not lower monthly payments or forgive some student debt.

The 10th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals lifted the injunction on the part that would lower monthly payments, allowing them to drop from 10 percent of discretionary income to 5 percent this month.

The administration did place some borrowers in forbearance while the legal issues are worked out.

“While we are frustrated by the continued legal challenges brought to limit borrower relief, we are pleased to see the Department of Education take quick and decisive action by placing 3 million borrowers in an administrative forbearance,” said Natalia Abrams, president of Student Debt Crisis Center.

Around 8 million Americans have signed up for the SAVE plan after it was implemented in the fall, part of President Biden’s wider efforts to bring relief to student loan borrowers.

Back in October, under the plan, the government raised the amount of income protected from 125 percent above the federal poverty guidelines to 225 percent. It also stopped monthly interest that is not covered by the plan.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Around 8 million Americans have signed up for the SAVE plan after it was implemented in the fall, part of President Biden’s wider efforts to secure re-election

Slightly edited for understanding

Senate Democrats circle wagons around Biden

Senate Democrats are President Biden’s bulwark in the Democratic Party and are sticking with him firmly, despite his disastrous debate performance in Atlanta.

Senate Democrats believe that Biden, even with his shaky performance, is a stronger general election candidate than Vice President Harris, who would have a good shot at the nomination if Biden withdraws from the race.

And Democratic senators have privately acknowledged for months that there’s no way to replace Biden on the ticket unless the president himself agrees to step down. He’s built up a massive lead in pledged delegates who are obligated to support him at the convention in Chicago.

Democratic lawmakers worry that even if Biden were to drop his reelection campaign, the battle to replace him as the party’s nominee would be a messy affair and only divide their party, hurting them in the general election.

“Joe Biden might have had a bad evening, but we don’t want four bad years under Donald Trump. On the issues, I thought Biden handled them well,” Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) told reporters at the Capitol on Friday.

“Obviously we were all looking forward to a more — I guess — energetic approach,” Cardin conceded.

“But from the substance, I think the American people recognize they have a choice between a person who understands the importance of our democratic system, understands the importance of the issues that he has pursued over the last four years, his record … versus a person on the other side who continues to make things up and wouldn’t respond to simple questions,” he said of the contrast between Biden and former President Trump.

“To me it’s a clear choice that we need to make sure President Biden is reelected as president of the United States,” he said.

Biden served in the Senate for 36 years before leaving to serve as former President Obama’s vice president. He also served as president of the Senate for eight years as vice president, building up a deep well of support within the Senate Democratic Conference.

Senate Democrats will serve as superdelegates at the Chicago convention, and they’re signaling early that they have no intention of swapping horses in the middle of the presidential race.

The party’s nominee must win a majority of nearly 4,000 delegates in Chicago, and officeholders and party officials who make up more than 700 superdelegates would vote if no candidate is able to meet that threshold.

One of the strongest statements bucking up Biden after his disappointing night came from Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.).

Fetterman noted that pundits also wrote off his 2022 Senate campaign after he bungled his lone debate against celebrity doctor Mehmet Oz, mixing up words and failing to complete his thoughts at key moments.

“I refuse to join the Democratic vultures on Biden’s shoulder after the debate. No one knows more than me that a rough debate is not the sum total of the person and their record,” he posted on the social platform X.

He mocked “polling geniuses” who predicted after that he would lose by 2 points only to later swallow their predictions when he wound up winning by more than 5 points.

Fetterman offered a blunt piece of advice to Democrats and media pundits fueling chatter about finding a last-minute alternative to Biden.

A New York Times editorial published Friday calling for Biden to drop out of the race had little impact on his Senate allies.

Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), who represents a battleground state that Biden won narrowly in 2020, said he should “absolutely not” abandon his campaign.

“I can tell you that there have been more than a few Sundays when I wish I had preached a better sermon,” Warnock, a pastor, told NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“But after the sermon was over, it was my job to embody the message, to show up for the people that I serve,” he said. “And that’s what Joe Biden has been doing his entire life.”

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) also waved off Biden’s poor debate performance and pivoted to Trump’s support for overhauling the federal government and its implications on abortion and LGBTQ rights.

“I’m about substance, not style. After last night’s debate, I’m more panicked than ever at Trump’s agenda. So I made a short video explaining Trump’s detailed plan — Project 2025 — to destroy democracy, criminalize abortion, and target and harass gay and transgender people,” he posted on X.

The vocal support from key Democratic senators contrasted from the alarmed response that some House Democrats voiced anonymously to media outlets.

One House Democrat who requested anonymity told Fox News that a sense of “panic” had set in by the end of the debate.

“Now, with the foundation, where do we go? Obviously, there are conversations that I believe need to be had at all levels, with the realization of, this is not just about the presidency, this is about down-ballot [effects],” the source said.

Senate Democrats, however, have insisted privately for months that Biden would be the nominee and there was no chance of changing up the ticket after he racked up nearly 3,894 pledged delegates in this year’s Democratic caucuses and primaries.

“The general sense of folks is that we’ve hitched our wagon to Biden, that he’s delivered a lot in partnership. It may not be Biden himself, but it’s his team. Right? And we’re already into the primaries,” a Democratic senator who requested anonymity told The Hill earlier this year.

A Democratic aide dismissed talk about finding a Plan B nominee for the general election as “fanciful” and chided anonymous Democrats who have vented their private anxieties to the media.

“Generally, you shouldn’t follow people and you shouldn’t listen to people who are just panicking,” the source said.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) has repeatedly deflected questions about Biden’s age and fitness for the job, insisting the president will win reelection based on the strength of his record and how his positions on abortion and other issues compare with Trump’s.

Schumer defended Biden immediately after the debate by looking past the president’s mangled answers and putting them in the broader context of the upcoming election.

“Tonight’s debate made the choice clear: Four more years of progress, or four more years of attacks on our fundamental rights and our democracy. We’ve got to get out the vote for @JoeBiden, @KamalaHarris, and a Democratic Senate and House!” Schumer posted on X.

White House chief of staff Jeff Zients called Schumer on Friday to check in with the Democratic leader to make sure the president still had his Senate support intact.

Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), the chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, on Friday signaled that Senate Democrats will stand by Biden as long as he decides to stay in the race, and that it would be up to him alone whether to continue his bid for a second term.

“I thought President Biden started off not with the enthusiasm, etc., necessary but it’s a difference between a bad initial debate and a very bad presidency, which Donald Trump can claim — and also a much worse presidency going forward,” Reed told a local Rhode Island reporter in an interview Friday.

Asked about Biden stepping aside, Reed said: “That’s the president’s decision.”

“Look at a record of achievement over the last four years and two of them which had a Republican House,” he said, touting Biden’s enactment of a $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure law, historic investments in renewable energy and a $280 billion investment in domestic semiconductor manufacturing and scientific research.

“It’s his decision what he wants to do going forward,” Reed said of Biden.