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    A new look to remove racial stereotyping

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    Uncle Ben's, Aunt Jemima and Mrs Butterworth's products to get new look to remove racial stereotyping

    We've seen statues of Confederate leaders and slave traders torn down as Black Lives Matter protests have flared up around the globe in recent weeks — and now corporations are making changes to the way they depict black people.

    Four big companies behind popular US food products with branding rooted in racial stereotypes have announced they're making changes.

    Mars, which owns the brand, said it was changing Uncle Ben's packaging as it had a responsibility to put an end to racial biases.

    "As we listen to the voices of consumers, especially in the black community, and to the voices of our associates worldwide, we recognise that now is the right time to evolve the Uncle Ben's brand, including its visual brand identity, which we will do," the company said in a statement.




    A 'hard look' at Aunt Jemima

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    Quaker Oats has also announced changes to its branding. The firm will rename the Aunt Jemima line, which features a smiling black woman on its packaging.

    The product line includes pancake mix, syrup and cornmeal.



    Mrs Butterworth's syrup

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    Similar announcements have been made by Mrs Butterworth's syrup and Cream of Wheat cereal.




    Cream of Wheat

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    The most recent announcement about packaging changes came from the makers of Cream of Wheat, which has also been criticised for its use of the Uncle Tom stereotype.

    B&G Foods said it was initiating "an immediate review" of its packaging, which has featured a black chef since at least 1918, according to the company's website.


    Uncle Ben'''s, Aunt Jemima and Mrs Butterworth'''s products to get new look to remove racial stereotyping - ABC News
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    Oh dear.

    .....as the overdone silliness continues.

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    "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present."

    George Orwell
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    Except history isn't being rewritten is it. Everyone still knows what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Except history isn't being rewritten is it. Everyone still knows what happened.
    Sure we know history, but it's the naive and easily herded that they are concealing it from, those that want it to be true, and in particular to keep future generations ignorant and therefore compliant.

    To paraphrase what Goebbels is supposed to have said, the size of the lie is irrelevant, because if you repeat it often enough people will eventually come to believe. While the motivation to believe in his time were incarceration/death, our more civilised era is satisfied with loss of career and livelihood and social ostracism.

    Problem is, to complete the jigsaw they ('they'!) need to not only scratch away at or simply destroy conflicting evidence, but gradually rewrite the history books and icons that we grew up with, to suit the proper narratives.

    And it's not too early to piss off a few snowflakes, so who should we blame for this if not us, a fat and prosperous generation that looked on bemused having given our kids free reign to completely lose the plot, so that all future generations suffer by missing out on the truth.

    Orwell wrote 1984 as a warning, and controllers have adopted it as a manual. Ayn Rand also wrote Atlas Shrugged as a warning, that the mind is the root of all human knowledge and values, and its absence is the root of all evil. Easy to understand why 'they' chose Orwell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Sure we know history, but it's the naive and easily herded that they are concealing it from, those that want it to be true, and in particular to keep future generations ignorant and therefore compliant.
    That isn't an issue of history being rewritten. Trumpanzees do that all the time.

    But they aren't Historians.

    Historians who try and rewrite history in Western democracies are usually ridiculed (c.f. David Irving), which was my point.

    Similarly, the fat midget in charge of North Korea probably ensures that his country's history books report his birth from the womb of a goddess or some shit, but history will still record that he is an entitled fat c u n t who took over from his megalomaniac of a father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Except history isn't being rewritten is it. Everyone still knows what happened
    There is plenty of rewritten history, it happens every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    There is plenty of rewritten history, it happens every day.
    I'd love to hear more unless you're going to give me examples like Chinastan, Russia or North Korea.

    Because of course 1984 was based on Orwell's hatred of Stalin and his experiences fighting against Stalinism in Spain, and of totalitarianism in general.

    Throwing away a statue of a Bristol slave trader does not wipe that man's history at all.

    The history books will still report that an entitled Englishman of the era profited handsomely from slave trading and used some of his wealth for charity.

    So pray, how is that "rewriting history"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree
    "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present."

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    Uncle Ben's, Aunt Jemima and Mrs Butterworth's products to get new look to remove racial stereotyping
    FFS


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    I didn’t even realize Mrs. Butterworth was black!

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    To be honest I don't get it.
    It depicts the /aunt jemima/uncle ben as purveyers of healthy foods. Where's the offense?
    And would it be considered similarly racial stereotyping if they were white?
    maybe I'm racist but I don't get the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    To be honest I don't get it.
    It depicts the /aunt jemima/uncle ben as purveyers of healthy foods. Where's the offense?
    And would it be considered similarly racial stereotyping if they were white?
    maybe I'm racist but I don't get the offense.
    ...Aunt Jemima depicts a kitchen negress cooking for her white owners...Uncle Ben likely was a sharecropper who was forced to give a percentage of his rice crop to white landowners...their smiling faces suggest they were happy with their lot in life, serving their white masters...Betty Crocker, however, did her own cooking and is therefore a righteous white...

    ...I imagine Johnnie Walker Black will soon have a name change...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...Aunt Jemima depicts a kitchen negro cooking for her white owners...Uncle Ben likely was a sharecropper who was forced to give a percentage of his rice crop to white landowners...their smiling faces suggest they were happy with their lot in life, serving their white masters...Betty Crocker, however, did her own cooking and is therefore a righteous white...

    ...I imagine Johnnie Walker Black will soon have a name change...
    Not to mention Johnie Walker Red (injuns) Or Johnie Walker Blue (Incels)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Not to mention Johnie Walker Red (injuns) Or Johnie Walker Blue (Incels)
    Maybe Johnie walker white? Hold on that infers white supremacy and exclusion.
    Maybe Johnie Walker should just mix red,black and blue together in one bottle they could call it Johnie Walker inclusion. However they will need to ditch the picture as it harks back to days of exclusion and slavery.
    Maybe they should ditch the name while they're about it as the name is a bit to gender specific and could be seen as excluding women and transgender people.
    How about LGBTQIH non gender or colour specific vegan approved Whiskey?
    Hold on that may offend teetotallers.
    How about LGBTQIH non gender or colour specific vegan approved liquid infused with teetotaller offensive additive? After all it wont change history and we will all remember it was once called the JW word, whatever that was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Maybe Johnie Walker should just mix red,black and blue together in one bottle they could call it Johnie Walker inclusion.
    You don't know much about blending do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Not to mention Johnie Walker Red (injuns) Or Johnie Walker Blue (Incels)
    eh???

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    .Aunt Jemima depicts a kitchen negress cooking for her white owners...Uncle Ben likely was a sharecropper who was forced to give a percentage of his rice crop to white landowners...their smiling faces suggest they were happy with their lot in life, serving their white masters..
    Nancy Green died in 1923 at 89, one of Americas first black millionaires, born a slave she became a wealthy superstar in advertising as the living trademark of 'Aunt Jemima'. She used her stature to advocate against poverty and for equal rights, a success story which is now being villified by the left, I listened to one of her relatives talking about it, they are less than happy with the call for revisionism under her name.

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    "Black Lives Matter" is rascist from the onset...

    ...it should be "All Lives Matter"

    Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    "Black Lives Matter" is rascist from the onset...

    ...it should be "All Lives Matter"

    Just sayin'
    I agree, next they are going to start repackaging 'white' people's faces on products.. maybe take all faces whatever color off products, maybe that will settle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    I didn’t even realize Mrs. Butterworth was black!
    I didn't realise having a monkey on a cereal box was racist either until yesterday.

    They'll be after my toothpaste next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    I didn't realise having a monkey on a cereal box was racist either until yesterday.

    They'll be after my toothpaste next.
    If it were in fact your toothpaste you would have known about the name change. Why lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If it were in fact your toothpaste you would have known about the name change. Why lie?
    Yer. What you talkin bout willis?

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    ^ "Darkie" toothpaste had its name changed to Darlie a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ^ "Darkie" toothpaste had its name changed to Darlie a few years ago.
    Not in China.

    EXCLUSIVE: Darlie to rebrand – Colgate-owned ‘Black People Toothpaste’ to be reviewed amid Black Lives Matter demos

    US consumer brand Colgate-Palmolive has said that Darlie toothpaste – infamous for its racist branding and history – will be rebranded following enquiries by HKFP this week.


    The toothpaste was known as “Darkie” until 1989 when the owners apologised and replaced the name in English. But local advertising assured customers that it would still be called “Black People Toothpaste” in Chinese, as it was for decades.

    “Darlie is a Chinese brand owned by Colgate and our Joint Venture Partner, Hawley & Hazel,” a spokesperson for Colgate-Palmolive told HKFP. “For more than 35 years, we have been working together to evolve the brand, including substantial changes to the name, logo and packaging. We are currently working with our partner to review and further evolve all aspects of the brand, including the brand name.”


    In light of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement for racial equality, Quaker announced that it would drop its “Aunt Jemima” food brand on Wednesday, admitting its racial undertones. Meanwhile, Mars said this week that it was reevaluating its use of “Uncle Ben’s” branding for its rice products.


    “Darkie” remains a discriminatory slur in many western countries and the image on the packaging is still reminiscent of racist Black and White Minstrel Shows in the US. Darlie’s Hong Kong manufacturer, Hawley & Hazel, is owned by the New York-based Colgate-Palmolive.

    Colgate-Palmolive previously sought to distance itself from the Asian brand, removing references to their ownership from its website. Despite its decades-long commitment to Darlie, the firm has previously launched Black History Month campaigns and its own Black Leadership Network initiative.


    Neither Hawley & Hazel nor the multinational responded when asked by HKFP if they supported or opposed BLM.

    ‘Exploitative’

    Innocent Mutanga, co-founder of Hong Kong’s Africa Center, told HKFP earlier on Thursday that the black community were shocked that the brand still existed: “Colgate-Palmolive is profiting from exploiting racist and problematic images.”


    Mutanga said the Centre was “disappointed at the hypocrisy and performative aspect” of the brand after learning that the derogatory Chinese name remained whilst the English one was dropped.

    He called on the firm to take three steps: “Colgate-Palmolive needs to do three things in light of the BLM movement; 1. stop the brand, 2. make a public apology and 3. give out ALL the money they have ever made from this brand towards fighting against racial prejudice.”

    EXCLUSIVE: Darlie to rebrand - Colgate-owned 'Black People Toothpaste' to be reviewed amid Black Lives Matter demos | Hong Kong Free Press HKFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ^ "Darkie" toothpaste had its name changed to Darlie a few years ago.

    I'll be stocking up on this to sell it on eBay

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