Thread: Resistance fighters' attack on Americans foiled.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Ask Stroller! Where is stroller?

Waterboarding in a CIA rendition centre in Uzbekistan.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by chinthee

Yes, Soviets were scared and made him historical....which is where he remains.

His views were popular in the 60s 70s and 80s amongst radicals in the West. Ask Stroller! Where is stroller?

Oh, I got it now. Part of the intelligencia that also studied Kierkagaard, Nietzsche and all the rest of the 4 year liberal curriculuum, right?

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^^
That's great!
Another success story in the GWOT!

Yeah and the Germans can do it without reversing hundreds of years of legal process e.g habeas corpus.

If you only know..... gerry's are more big brother oriented than the yanks mate.

Well done yanks - keep up the good work.

^ What you talk about pliz ? I no unnerstand.

'Yanks' did fuck all here.

Europe has a real problem with this shit.

Many countries have significant Muslim populations.

Germany (Turkey) , France (North Africa) , UK (Pakistan etc etc) , Holland (where the fuck did they get them from ?).
Well done the German and Danish police for averting a slaughter here.

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Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by chinthee

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by chinthee

Yes, Soviets were scared and made him historical....which is where he remains.

His views were popular in the 60s 70s and 80s amongst radicals in the West. Ask Stroller! Where is stroller?

Oh, I got it now. Part of the intelligencia that also studied Kierkagaard, Nietzsche and all the rest of the 4 year liberal curriculuum, right?

No the concept of global socialist revolution was popular in the UK there are still a few old Labour MPs waving the flag, Che Guevara, FARC, November 17, RAF .

Socilaism is old hat now the Koran and Jihad and the pen and the sword is the mantra which will attract young men with political fire in their bellies

Ya, fuck the fire in the bellies of these Jihadists. They live in the 11th century and they will be dust soon.

Originally Posted by chinthee

Ya, fuck the fire in the bellies of these Jihadists. They live in the 11th century and they will be dust soon.

As will you and I.

Originally Posted by NathairCeann

^ What you talk about pliz ? I no unnerstand.

'Yanks' did fuck all here.

Well, according to the vaunted commie news network (CNN) it were them FBI's working with local 'assets' who pointed the finger at them german terrorists.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by NathairCeann

^ What you talk about pliz ? I no unnerstand.

'Yanks' did fuck all here.

Well, according to the vaunted commie news network (CNN) it were them FBI's working with local 'assets' who pointed the finger at them german terrorists.

Firstly WTF makes you think German security forces need your FBI to tell them what their own citizens are up to ? Secondly , I happen to get CNN here and saw their reports. What you say above is bullshit. Exaggeration is one thing , often amusing , but don't lie - there's a good lad. PS Rumour has it that they even buy their own uniforms in Europe now.

Originally Posted by chinthee

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

Historically and still proof of today:
"When America coughs, the rest of the world catches a cold."

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by chinthee

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

Historically and still proof of today:
"When America coughs, the rest of the world catches a cold."

A fukin men brother. pussies who don't understand where their bread is buttered. wimps.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Did you notice that two of the suspects are white Germans? It seems to signify that radical Islamic ideologies are gaining a diverse group of adherents. Jihad Salafists could become the new Trotskyites. Radical Islam may be becoming the new form that anti imperialist struggle takes.


Also the BBC made another basic factaul error today when they stated that the hydrogen peroxide bomb materials seized were of the same kind as used in the Madrid bombings. This is completely untrue the Madrid bombs were made out of dynamite stolen from a mine in Northern Spain. Journalism today has become so pathetically poor.

Because we didn't wake up yet and have people like you!




Report: Libraries stock Islamic terror books
By Duncan Gardham
Last Updated: 4:07pm BST 06/09/2007


Public libraries are stocking hundreds of Islamic books by advocates of "holy war", with many glorifying acts of terrorism, a new report claims.
Damian Thompson: The repositories of hate
Council taxpayers' money has been spent on the books, with one library stocking works by the convicted preachers Abu Hamza and Abdullah al-Faisal.

An investigation by a leading think-tank found extremist literature at six libraries, three in the London area, two in the Midlands and one in the North.

It raises fears that public libraries could inadvertently fuel the radicalisation of young Muslims.

The recent case of Dhiren Barot, who was jailed for 30 years for plotting a series of atrocities, showed that terrorists have used university libraries for research.
Patrick Mercer, the Conservative MP for Newark and the Government's new adviser on security issues, said: "I don't oppose free speech but the amount of this material is frightening.
"It has been bought with taxpayers' money and you have got to question the balance here.
"Much of the material has very extreme views and I wouldn't want an impressionable young person to come across it and think that these are the views of the majority of Muslims."



In the report, Hate on the State, published by the Centre for Social Cohesion think-tank, the authors warn that some libraries have become "saturated with extreme Islamist books".
"Many of these books stocked in the Islam section of libraries glorify acts of terrorism against followers of other religions, incite violence against anyone who rejects jihadist ideologies and endorse violence and discrimination against women," the report says.
"In a number of cases these books are not only on library shelves but are also given special prominence in displays.
"In the worst cases they are the tools of radicalisation and increase the risk of Islamic terrorism."
Tower Hamlets, one of the most heavily populated Muslim areas in the country, has eight libraries stocking dozens of books in English, Urdu, Bengali and Somali - including works by Hamza and al-Faisal.
Both were jailed for incitement to murder and their writings were found in the council flat used as a bomb factory by the failed July 21 suicide bombers.
Al-Faisal also influenced at least one of the July 7 bombers and was deported this year after finishing his seven-year sentence.
In a book entitled Natural Instincts, he writes: "The kafirs [non-believers] are the henchmen of the Shaitaan [devil]" adding later: "The only language the kafirs respect is jihad [holy war]."
Other authors on the shelves include Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the radical Muslim Brotherhood, and Sayyid Qutb, a major influence on Osama bin Laden.
Tower Hamlets has a total of 40 books by the two men which include calls for a revival of the principles of jihad.
The borough also has hundreds of books associated with Jamaat-e-Islami, the Pakistani Islamic political party founded by Abu Ala Maududi, who has called for a "universal revolution".
The report also found that libraries in Leicester had 10 copies of books by Maududi and Ealing had 10 by Qutb.
The radical Islamic political party Hizb ut-Tahrir is also represented in Tower Hamlets, with one book, Funds in the Khilafah State, claiming: "The mere apostasy of the apostate gives Muslims the right to shed his blood and seize his property."
Other books advocate polygamy, forbid the "free mixing of men and women" and one, Women Who Deserve To Go To Hell says: "We have no intention to accuse women when we say that they will be in a majority in hell."
There are also dozens of books by moderate Islamic scholars but the report says that there are "excessively large collections of certain Islamic texts designed to incite hatred and violence".
Tower Hamlets Council said yesterday that it would review its policy on Islamic literature.
Birmingham and Ealing councils said they were happy to stock any material that was legal while Steve Rigby of Blackburn council said: "Librarians do not act as censors where titles are freely available."
Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain and a Government adviser, said: "These are authors who are widely read in the Muslim world and it is not surprising that they are stocked in areas where there happens to be the highest concentration of Muslims," he said.
"It does not necessarily mean you agree with them, it is part of a free society."

Report: Libraries stock Islamic terror books - Telegraph

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Did you notice that two of the suspects are white Germans? It seems to signify that radical Islamic ideologies are gaining a diverse group of adherents. Jihad Salafists could become the new Trotskyites. Radical Islam may be becoming the new form that anti imperialist struggle takes.


Also the BBC made another basic factaul error today when they stated that the hydrogen peroxide bomb materials seized were of the same kind as used in the Madrid bombings. This is completely untrue the Madrid bombs were made out of dynamite stolen from a mine in Northern Spain. Journalism today has become so pathetically poor.

Because we didn't wake up yet and have people like you!

"have me" ? What on earth do you mean ?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, bud, just watched that news clip here in North America - don't know what y'all saw there but do believe this: The FBI was involved in determining the bad guys again and yes, a lot of times Euroweenieland needs some help - don't you agree? Heh...

Obviously I'll take your word for it. They probably run it through a bullshit strainer before put it in the international edition.

There was mention of 'Europol' in the report. If this organisation signifies direct cop-to-cop communication across borders without political interference it can only help.

On the question of 'help' I was amused by the information US authorities were asking European airlines to provide concerning incoming passengers. Political leanings and sexual orientation featured.

Picture , if you will , the conversation at checkin.

'Now just a few more questions Sir. Which political party do you support ? OK fine. Yes , one last question Sir , do you suck cock ?'

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Report: Libraries stock Islamic terror books
By Duncan Gardham
Last Updated: 4:07pm BST 06/09/2007


Public libraries are stocking hundreds of Islamic books by advocates of "holy war", with many glorifying acts of terrorism, a new report claims.
Damian Thompson: The repositories of hate
Council taxpayers' money has been spent on the books, with one library stocking works by the convicted preachers Abu Hamza and Abdullah al-Faisal.

Hey Herman, why don't we burn all those evil books? I understand your country has a lot of experience in this area, perhaps you could give us some advice on the most efficient way to do this.

The issue of censorship/ banning of extremist or bogus literature is a sticky one.

Some of the literature mentioned above is certainly extremist- The '39 principles of jihad' (you can Google it) is basically a blueprint for Holy War against the West/Zionist axis. The author has the same mindset as Keda, HTG and a few other posters on TD but from an opposing perspective- namely that this is an irreconciliable clash of cultures and a fight to the death. Stirring stuff, but should it be banned?

Another example quite germane to the USA is Joan Peters book 'From Time Immemorial', as it sells quite well there. This is basically an academic sounding tome that purports to show that Palestinians as such don't exist- hence lending credibility to the old Zionist catchcry 'A land without a people for a people without a land'. Of course, it has been conclusively proven to be a hoax. So should it be banned?

Personally, I am distrustful of censorship. It is just manipulated to become a propaganda tool for the State, inevitably. They will ban things they don't want you to believe, but allow falsehoods they do want you to believe.

Originally Posted by shehiredahitman

Originally Posted by chinthee

But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today

The Americans are in it for themselves, personally, not for the benefit of the world.

The richest 5% of Americans are especially in it for themselves. They really couldn't care less about anyone, American or not.

Originally Posted by chinthee

Oh, I got it now. Part of the intelligencia that also studied Kierkagaard, Nietzsche and all the rest of the 4 year liberal curriculuum, right?

Erm, you think Nietzsche and Kirka are Liberal??

Just to comment on your statement that the rest of the world would suffer if the USA disengaged- became an Isolationist Autarchy if you will- well economically speaking at least, you are indeed right. But of course, the USA would suffer too. The world is intertwined with a myriad of trade and capital flows, for mutual benefit.

america has made some mistakes of late,
but the last world conflict was helped to a conclusion faster with american help,
i speak of course of WW2, when the brits along with the rest of europe let hitler get too far ahead of the game to stop him by our selves, i firmly believe that without american intevention we would still have a major germanic influence,
now this leads onto the middle east, if left to thier own devices, people like wakojob would come to the forefront and gain major power and with nuclear technology who knows what it would lead to, do not forget one of wako's first jobs is to wipe israel off the map.
we will not know for years to come whether the coalition was a good move or not, oh who invaded kuwait, wasn't it one of those nutcase leaders.

[/quote] "have me" ? What on earth do you mean ?[/quote]

I think The_Dude said it very clear.


Hey, Mad Dog.
What crawled up your ass and died? Take it easy pussycat! We might just put you on that list with the women and children.

Pakistan link to foiled Germany terror plot: report

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LOS ANGELES (AFP) — A US intelligence intercept of suspicious communications between Pakistan and Germany was the initial breakthrough that helped authorities foil a terror plot this week, it was reported.
The Los Angeles Times, citing unidentified officials, reported Friday that communications referring to "apparent terrorist activity" were first detected by US intelligence last year before the lead was passed to German officials.
"The US counter-terrorism community supported efforts to draw links, to do intercepts and to monitor communications between Pakistan and Germany," a US counter-terrorism official told the Times.
The official said the initial intercept was "a key factor" that "helped build the case." "It led to a very long period of surveillance, and the arrests," the official added.
The intercepts continued after the suspects were placed under surveillance, the report said.
A further communication between the cell in Germany and militant handlers in Pakistan, who urged the suspects to accelerate the timetable for the plot, was also intercepted, the report added, citing German officials.
Germany's federal prosecutor announced on Wednesday that authorities had smashed a plot to bomb airports and other targets frequented by Americans such as bars and nightclubs.
Three men arrested -- two German converts to Islam and a Turk -- had attended training camps in Pakistan and were stockpiling chemicals to make car bombs, prosecutors said.

AFP: Pakistan link to foiled Germany terror plot: report