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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    On a global scale, the three top exporters of quality beef have alway been Brazil, USA and Australia. Given the Brazilian’s seriously poor response to the pandemic, the lead of Brazil in this market will obviously be tested by the closer competition from USA and Aus.
    No doubt the top 3 will not be challenged because no other country comes close on volumes.

    Once again, your personal hatred comes shining through, and cannot be taken seriously. Nothing new there then!

    Your views on any global issue relating to politics, economics and reality are no longer trustworthy.

    See the tourism plan for Chonburi. Like you, it’s a bit of a joke.
    It does become quite tedious watching him trying to twist the narrative due to his personel hatred and even more trying, constantly having to point out his mistakes.

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    Always amusing the way you knuckle-dragging, lumpen Brexit oafs react when we more intelligent of the forum set you straight. Your enfeebled intellects simply cannot handle it and rather than accept the reality you inevitably delude yourselves by asserting the preposterous nonsense one is " twisting the narrative" as if the narrative rooted in your vacuous rhetoric and cheap propaganda was a truth in itself.

    But yes, it is right I am biased against the stupid, the deluded, the ignorant and xenophobic prejudiced but then, I am not a Brexit idiot with a brain the size of a walnut, am I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Always amusing the way you knuckle-dragging, lumpen Brexit oafs react when we more intelligent of the forum set you straight. Your enfeebled intellects simply cannot handle it and rather than accept the reality you inevitably delude yourselves by asserting the preposterous nonsense one is " twisting the narrative" as if the narrative rooted in your vacuous rhetoric and cheap propaganda was a truth in itself.

    But yes, it is right I am biased against the stupid, the deluded, the ignorant and xenophobic prejudiced but then, I am not a Brexit idiot with a brain the size of a walnut, am I.
    No you are not a Brexiter. That would require courage, foresight and vision far beyond your ken. You are a fawning EU sycophant that yearns for the status quo unable to envisage or accept anything other than mediocrity.

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    For Your Information.
    Several searches show and agree that the top 3 beef exporting nations are The USA, Australia and Brazil.

    Argentina is 5th behind India.
    The EU as a collective, is 10th in single figure percentages. (Netherlands was found on one list) again in single figure percentages.

    Some beef may be of different quality, and is unlikely to be stamped by the H&SE of the EU.

    Figures are generally expressed as US$ value or tonnage.

    Introducing questionable caveats that meet your own narrative, is disingenuous to say the least. As far as quality is concerned, I have consumed superb beef steak from Australia, the US and from Argentina. Other providers are available ..
    Last edited by Switch; 21-06-2021 at 03:04 PM.

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    You fucking frazzled geriatric buffoon, Chas, I referred to the top beef producers, not fucking exporters. Read the fucking post with your eyes focused and brain engaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    You fucking frazzled geriatric buffoon, Chas, I referred to the top beef producers, not fucking exporters. Read the fucking post with your eyes focused and brain engaged.
    My original post referred to beef EXPORTERS. You moved the goalposts by replying about beef producers. My original post on beef EXPORTS stands. In order to export a product, there has to be an export market for it.

    Your opinions on product quality are really very poor because you insist on twisting the narrative. Even if that narrative is introduced by you. Your narrative and opinions both appear to be worthless, because you changed the most salient point of my original post.

    That is not how to debate, and someone who claims to be smart should really know better. I think you must be a very unhappy loser to attempt such puerile, childish tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The stupid fuck doesn't seem to understand the Aberdeen Angus breed is a breed of beef cow that originates from Scotland.

    He truly is a fucking idiot.
    Oh really? I must have forgotten when the white man came to Australia 200 plus years ago, that there weren't great herds of angus beef cattle roaming the plains of Australia.
    Of course they came from somewhere else you idiot because they are obviously not native to Austalia. We just improved them through breeding to be the best. The biggest single cattle producer and cattle farm in the world is in Australia which is roughly equivalent to 30% of the landmass of Ireland including NI.
    The same story with The Australian Merino that was bred from what was originally Spanish stock, to become the best Merino wool in the world and accounts for over half the worlds merino wool, you clueless EU sycophantish oaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Of course they came from somewhere else you idiot because they are obviously not native to Austalia. We just improved them through breeding to be the best.


    Surely, the most pitiful claim by an inferior desperately compensating for his insignificance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    My original post referred to beef EXPORTERS. You moved the goalposts by replying about beef producers. My original post on beef EXPORTS stands.
    Er, in replying to your post I was putting it into a context of more relevance. You intended to convey an importance to Antipodean beef production that was exaggerated.

    I merely added perspective.

    You raddled old idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Er, in replying to your post I was putting it into a context of more relevance. You intended to convey an importance to Antipodean beef production that was exaggerated.

    I merely added perspective.

    You raddled old idiot.
    When you say context of more relevance, of course you mean a context more easily manipulated in order to convey your complete lack of understanding of the subject, enabling you to twist the narrative again. In laymen’s terms, it’s a none too subtle way of moving the goalposts to hide your failure.

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    Five years on, we finally know what Brexit means: a worse deal for everyone.

    Five years ago today, in the early hours, Britain discovered what it had done – and what had been done to it by the liars, charlatans and rogues who mis-sold Brexit as “taking back control”. The wound is as fresh as ever. Breaking apart political parties and reversing erstwhile red or blue wall seats is a minor matter, but Brexit’s explosive division of the country by social class, geography and a deep sense of personal identity is a lasting injury.


    Few have changed their mind: though polls put remain (or return) ahead by a nose, no one wants to be put through that hell again. Brexit is done for the foreseeable future, though a government thriving on national disunity strives to keep it alive with infantile culture wars and “anti-woke” phoney patriotism. Polls give the Conservatives a 14-point lead, as they head into next week’s Batley and Spen byelection. No surprise, for what party in power could dream of a better boast than this: the vaccines are genuinely bestowing the gift of staying alive on every single citizen. And Britain is out ahead of other European countries: pollsters tell me voters sincerely (though unjustly) believe that had we remained in the EU, we couldn’t have had our own programme. Despite EU vaccinators catching up, and the UK having more people dead and more debt than they do, Covid is still a convenient cover.


    Yet barely a day goes by without further proofs of Brexit’s damage, some of it now forcing its way into the Tory press. This week, pigeon fanciers are barred from having their birds participate in cross-Channel races by new rules. Less niche is the alarming 17% rise in food prices: Ian Wright, of the Food and Drink Federation, tells me Brexit costs and obstructions have sent commodity prices soaring, and those are now working their way on to the shelves. The unexpected 2bn fall in UK food and drink exports to the EU in just the first quarter of this year is, Wright tells me, “no teething problem, but very real and sustained. Smaller firms have stopped exporting”, overwhelmed by the new obstacles. The government may turn a permanent blind eye to import checks starting next week: “But that soon gets dangerous. When no one checks, who knows if imported food is what it says on the tin, and not, say, horse meat?”


    Financial services are migrating to the EU: by March, Brexit had already driven away an estimated 1.3 tn of assets and jobs. By April, more than 440 finance firms had fled, taking 10% of the UK’s financial sector assets, worth a staggering 900bn, while foreign investment subsides.


    Boris Johnson’s hastily botched EU trade deal left out finance, responsible for 80% of our exports by value. It nearly stalled over fishing, a sector with just 12,000 jobs, yet even that industry is wrecked – and the Express says so: “‘They’ve sold us down the f*****g river!’ British fishermen hit out on Brexit anniversary.” Wherever you look, expect the same story. The assault on the arts, music and broadcasting is lethal for a sector where Britain excels. This week, the music industry has been begging for an end to the deadlock over EU touring, vital for its viability. Another thunderbolt struck this week with a report showing the EU is likely to enforce its rules limiting non-EU content in its broadcasting: nothing new here, the EU is always strict on cultural protection against the US. That strips millions from financing for drama and other programmes, on top of BBC cuts and the possible privatisation of Channel 4.


    Look at almost any industry and you find too much damage done to fit in this space: vanishing EU workers, no EU arrest warrant or crime data sharing, the loss of Erasmus, EU visitors handcuffed at our airports, and EU citizens here in peril of being failed by the Home Office, in a manner redolent of the Windrush scandal – a poisonous message that will deter EU tourism.


    As the Brexiters’ reckless unreadiness unfolds, the government emerges devoid of basic policy. Is it for protecting our farmers, manufacturers, steel or wind turbine makers, or is it for wild free trade, with the cheapest food and products imported, regardless of home industries? The Australia deal sold out farmers, with 60 times more beef imported next year for a puny 0.02% GDP increase over 15 years.


    Yesterday the sausages were kicked down the road, but this will only delay the Northern Ireland protocol crisis beyond the tense marching season. There’s an easy answer to food export dilemmas if a pig-headed prime minister hadn’t appointed the mulish Lord Frost to block it: only ideology stops them agreeing to EU food standards, as we have agreed to EU employment and environment norms. That should alarm most voters who may not relish an inalienable right to lower food quality.


    It’s high time Labour broke its silence on these calamities, and it should start right there with food standards. It would be an easy win. Had the Brexiters lost by a whisker five years ago, do you think they would have quietly capitulated, any more than the SNP did after it lost in 2014? The omerta of Labour remainers has done them no favours, letting these Brexit car crashes pile up unopposed. True, Brexit is electoral dynamite that Johnson plans to exploit for ever, but that’s why Labour needs to make a stand now. There’s no reopening the referendum, it should just target the failed trade deal. Polls show the public knows how bad it is, Strathclyde university’s Prof John Curtice found that even among leave voters, only one in three thinks it a good deal.


    Emily Thornberry, shadowing on trade, sees that wide-open goal. “Be grown-up and pragmatic,” she says. “We need a good deal. We can make the best of Brexit, while they’ve made the worst of it.” So far Covid shrouds the effects, driving the EU trade deal’s disasters from most front pages. But on everything from farming, manufacturing and finance to entertainment and food the government is vulnerable and culpable, if Labour would shake off its paralysing Brexit-phobia.


    Five years on, we finally know what Brexit means: a worse deal for everyone | Polly Toynbee | The Guardian

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    The Guardian, the gift that keeps giving.

    You should vary your reading material then you wouldnt be so blinkered

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    Maybe I should try 'Metro' at 3:30 am after a litre of gut-rot brandy in a garden shed.

    Then waking up at 2pm every day to share my off-topic wisdom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    in a garden shed.
    With a cheap tauplin roof...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post


    Surely, the most pitiful claim by an inferior desperately compensating for his insignificance.
    We are all but specs in the universe my anal seeking friend. Your spec just happens to be significently smaller than mine.
    BTW hows Patts? I was out at a nice bar last night having a drink with friends on our way to a nice italian restaurant, where I enjoyed a nice plate of penne portifino washed down with an excellent Australian wine, overlooking a beach where one can swim without ingesting ecoli or dodging turds, in this covid free paradise known as Queensland.
    I would suggest you sell your abode in Patts and migrate. I'm sure the sale would go a long way towards a deposit on a small caravan... Oh dear, sorry to raise your hopes. I just checked and there are no vacancies for public service toilet attendants ATM. My bad.

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    What would I give a "F" about Brexit for, except that Clarkson might need a visa now to film a car series outside the UK.

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    ^ you seem to be the kind of person who would go apple bobbing in a barel full of water, with no apples in it.

    Or perhaps you are a slinky. No discenable purpose at all, but for the mild amusement caused by pushing one down a flight of stairs.

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    The problem facing those concerned with democracy, and governance of it within the UK, is the almost insurmountable difficulty in addressing the not inconsiderable fact that the majority of national media outlets are owned and directed by shills for the Brexitory, hedge funding, tax evading coterie who are exploiting Brexit for their own short term gain at the expense of the public who sadly in the main are constituted from the stupid, the deluded, the ignorant and the bigoted.

    The spectrum of newspapers published in the UK are all mostly rabid supporters of Brexit and no matter what the issue might be the propaganda spinning a spurious benefit is churned out at every opportunity.

    Do you think a Labour prime minister would still be in power by popular acclaim if he had presided over a government in which his decisions meant: an annual loss of 50 billions to GDP, the destruction of food processing export sectors, the destruction of English fisheries, the end to modern British farming that has flourished for 75 years and the worst threat to the beef cow sector since foot and mouth, the death of 120,000 citizens, the personal misappropriation of public funds to further an illicit sexual relationship with a foreign national whose visa he personally supported, who deliberately entered into an international agreement with the purpose of dishonouring it and was now advocating the building at public expense of a personal ocean-going yacht to accommodate his sociopathic ego???

    The Fourth Estate has a lot to answer for and in truth has been instrumental in the weakening of the UK as a political entity and as a state within the international arena.

    Brexit is a disaster with no benefit except to carpetbaggers and tax evaders.

    And it's all down to the rightwing oddities spawned by the UKIP end of the Tory party but the greatest irony of all is that it has in fact destroyed not only the traditional Labour Party but fractured the Conservative Party irreversibly.

    Britain is fucked.

    But, can any of the usual fuckwit knuckle dragging Brexiteers please tell us, what is it the UK is going to sell to the world that it couldn't before Brexit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    mild amusement caused by pushing one down a flight of stairs
    Or the upcoming episodes of "Border Patrol UK"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    The Guardian, the gift that keeps giving.
    Not just The Guardian reporting the stupidity of Brexit though is it? Just about every media outlet in the World that shows an interest...

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    He just repeats the words of his mates here.

    Occasionally he'll parrot something he heard at work.

    It's the best he can manage, and so much easier than actually addressing anything.

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    The future success or failure of the UK will not be found in the opinions of Polly Toynbee or seeking ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The degree of failure of Brexit will not be found in the opinions of Polly Toynbee or seeking ass.
    FTFY....

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    More positive news....

    Nissan has announced a major expansion of electric vehicle production at its car plant in Sunderland which will create 1,650 new jobs.

    The Japanese carmaker will build its new-generation all-electric model at the site as part of a 1bn investment that will also support thousands of jobs in the supply chain.

    And Nissan's partner, Envision AESC, will build an electric battery plant.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson called it a "pivotal moment".

    Of the 1bn investment, Nissan said it would invest up to 423m to produce a new-generation all-electric vehicle in the UK, building on the success of its existing electric car, the Leaf.

    Production of the new model will create 909 new jobs and more than 4,500 in its UK supply chain.

    Other production locations have not yet been confirmed. More details about the new vehicle will be released closer to the car's launch date.

    Envision's new gigafactory will eventually provide batteries to power up to 100,000 Nissan electric vehicles a year. It will create 750 new jobs and secure 300 existing roles.

    It is hoped the new plant will operational in time for 2024, when the level of UK-made components in cars manufactured in the UK is required to start increasing, in line with the terms of the UK's trade deal with the EU.

    The majority of Nissan's Sunderland-assembled cars are sold in the EU.

    Car sector calls for millions more charging points
    UK could be left behind in the electric car race
    Meanwhile, the BBC has been told that an investment at Vauxhall's car plant at Ellesmere Port is "weeks away" - a move that could secure the future of the plant.

    It is expected that a promise of government aid could see Vauxhall's parent company, Stellantis, commit to building a new model at the factory.

    From 2030, sales of new cars and vans powered solely by petrol or diesel will be banned in the UK. However, some hybrids will still be allowed.

    Mr Johnson said: "The great thing about this investment and the creation of this gigafactory is it is going to drive down the cost of electric vehicles (EVs), not just for people who are currently buying them but so ordinary families can buy EVs as a matter of course and that will start happening in just a few years' time."

    Brexit
    Ahead of the Brexit deal, Nissan had warned over the future of the Sunderland plant if the government was unable to secure an agreement with the EU.

    At the time, Nissan's chief operating officer, Ashwani Gupta, said: "If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it."

    However, on Thursday Mr Gupta told the BBC: "The key success factor for Brexit has always been trade friendly business conditions to sustain our business not only in the UK but in the whole of Europe and thanks to Brexit, Nissan is moving forward to use Brexit as an opportunity."
    Shalom

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    Have we Brexited yet?

    I'm thinking of opening a thread called "Brexit - It's over!".

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