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    They are fishery patrol vessels Lom. It really is funny the mental gymnastics you use, still you don't think in English so i suppose its to be expected Shpeedy Shhhpordy Shhhpeedy

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    I didn't think the channel islands were ever part of the EU or in fact the UK. They are a protectorate but independent of parliament.

    The UK are interfering when they have no right. No wonder the froggies are upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    They are a protectorate
    yes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I didn't think the channel islands were ever part of the EU or in fact the UK. They are a protectorate but independent of parliament.

    The UK are interfering when they have no right. No wonder the froggies are upset.
    I believe Britain supplies its defense. Therefore if there is trouble then they would be duty bound to help. In saying that I would've thought they would be better off as part of France being much closer but I imagine the islanders would be french already if that was their wish, so it is safe to say they probably dont. I believe the problem is more about the process that the froggies dont like but when you are taking someone elses resources they get to make the rules.
    Threatening to cut off all their electricity doesnt seem to me to be a way that will endear yourself to the islanders. But nice to see your anti british anti brexit sentiment is consistent on all topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    But nice to see your anti british anti brexit sentiment is consistent on all topics.
    BREXIT myopia extends far and wide.

    You see it as like supporting a sports team, because it's easier than thinking about what is right and wrong.

    Looking at the issues separately, without prejudice, is quite 'boring' to the BREXITer mindset.

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    The Jersey islanders have, in regulating the usage of their fishing grounds, reneged on the agreements struck between The Clown and the EU representatives and are acting in breach thereof.

    Given that this is the modus operandi of The Clown it is scarcely unexpected but nevertheless it is unacceptable.

    If they do not comply with the protocols agreed on their behalf by the fat pig Clown then the French must act quickly and decisively. Ramming those glorified tugboats and cutting off the island's electricity supply is quite proportionate in my view.

    The sleazy English only entered into their agreements with the intention of undermining them at every opportunity. Giving them a bloody nose immediately is the only way to deal with these Tory slime buckets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    we'll do however is enforce our standards we are not complying with on those we trade with. Its laughable.
    Importing GM products and chlorinated chicken?

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    ^ Are we? and what is your point OhOh, is it another post where you expect the reader to translate your thought processes

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    Not strictly Brexit related, but what is very much evident is the ethnic diversity of Johnson's government, in particular the 'Great Offices of State':

    Dominic Raab (Foreign Secretary) - Son of a Jewish refugee from Czechoslovakia.
    Priti Patel (Home Secretary) - Parents Indian immigrants from Uganda.
    Rishi Sunak (Chancellor of the Exchequer) - Parents Indian immigrants from East Africa.

    Other ministers include:

    Kwasi Kwarteng (Business Secretary) - Parents Immigrants from Ghana.
    Alok Sharma (President for COP 26) - Parents from India.
    Nadhim Zahawi (Secretary for Vaccine Deployment) - Iraqi born Kurdish refugee.

    Even Johnson himself has Turkish roots.

    Hardly what could be termed the British establishment, and certainly more ethnic and minority diverse than their opposite numbers on Labour's benches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    certainly more ethnic and minority diverse than their opposite numbers on Labour's benches.
    Labour has 41 BAME MPs. (20%)

    Conservatives 22 (6%)

    Election 2019: Britain'''s most diverse Parliament - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Not strictly Brexit related, but what is very much evident is the ethnic diversity of Johnson's government, in particular the 'Great Offices of State':

    Dominic Raab (Foreign Secretary) - Son of a Jewish refugee from Czechoslovakia.
    Priti Patel (Home Secretary) - Parents Indian immigrants from Uganda.
    Rishi Sunak (Chancellor of the Exchequer) - Parents Indian immigrants from East Africa.

    Other ministers include:

    Kwasi Kwarteng (Business Secretary) - Parents Immigrants from Ghana.
    Alok Sharma (President for COP 26) - Parents from India.
    Nadhim Zahawi (Secretary for Vaccine Deployment) - Iraqi born Kurdish refugee.

    Even Johnson himself has Turkish roots.

    Hardly what could be termed the British establishment, and certainly more ethnic and minority diverse than their opposite numbers on Labour's benches.
    And practically every one of 'em is a two-bit, chiselling, money grubbing, dissembling, egregious, corporate shill exploiting their power out of avaricious self interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Labour has 41 BAME MPs. (20%)

    Conservatives 22 (6%)

    Election 2019: Britain'''s most diverse Parliament - BBC News
    I was referring to Cabinet postholders. Check out the Shadow Cabinet:

    Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet (United Kingdom) - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Check out the Shadow Cabinet:
    There are seven BAME MPs in the shadow cabinet, or 22% of the total.

    This compares with 15% BAME representation in the cabinet.

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    Last edited by cyrille; 06-05-2021 at 04:58 PM.

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    This compares with 15% BAME representation in the cabinet.
    but tory bames will never be bame enough to count.

    only bames that wear their victimhood on their sleeves, blame everybody else for their misfortunes, have delinquent kids, hate the uk and whinge endlessly about the racism they claim to have suffered throughout life can claim to be real bames.

    bames that have made it in life, have a job and a house, have law abiding kids just dont count in the eyes of the woke left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    but tory bames will never be bame enough to count.

    only bames that wear their victimhood on their sleeves, blame everybody else for their misfortunes, have delinquent kids, hate the uk and whinge endlessly about the racism they claim to have suffered throughout life can claim to be real bames.

    bames that have made it in life, have a job and a house, have law abiding kids just dont count in the eyes of the woke left.

    Did I not recently read somewhere that the British government is going to stop using the term BAME? Something about it not being useful. I saw separately that Priti Patel had said she did not like the term and did not want it used around her. Can't say that I have thought about it enough to have formed any opinion one way or the other.

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    its another of those divisive terms loved by labour politicians and labels and box ticks minority groups and also glorifies their often imagined victim status.

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    Shutree, it reminds her that she ain't really British but an immigrant spawn from Gujarat via the shophouses of East Africa.

    Possibly the stupidest, most illiterate, dishonest and semi-articulate Home Secretary since, well, forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    its another of those divisive terms loved by labour politicians and labels and box ticks minority groups and also glorifies their often imagined victim status.
    But let's not throw baby out with the bath water, Tax, it did make the Welsh feel included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Total Value of US Exports 2020 - 2.13 trillion dollars.

    Total Value of US Exports 2019 - 2.53 trillion dollars.

    Holland? FFS.

    Laughs before he even checks what Germany and Holland export. I meant combined. Its far closer than it should be considering there's 220 million + less people

    In 2019, Germany exported a total of $1.44T, making it the number 3 exporter in the world.

    Netherlands had a total export of 555,921,409.86 in thousands of US$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Laughs before he even checks what Germany and Holland export.
    Posts having found out he was wrong, shows he was wrong, continues as if he was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Laughs before he even checks what Germany and Holland export. I meant combined. Its far closer than it should be considering there's 220 million + less people

    In 2019, Germany exported a total of $1.44T, making it the number 3 exporter in the world.

    Netherlands had a total export of 555,921,409.86 in thousands of US$
    So a 1/3 of Germany's exports coz you couldn't be bothered to put a decimal in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    French threat to cut off Jersey's electricity supply.
    Oh no

    How can they provide services for and participate in all the ecomomic crimes they are sheltering ?

    Cut it off permanently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The Jersey islanders have, in regulating the usage of their fishing grounds, reneged on the agreements struck between The Clown and the EU representatives and are acting in breach thereof.
    A statement without backing, where is your proof they reneged?

    Since Brexit, Jersey has the right to impose conditions on fishing within its fisheries, but must notify the UK first, which in turn had to inform Brussels and then France. It may be that this communication got lost in the bureaucratic jungle civil servants love to create.

    My understanding is Jersey has as part of the licence condition asked for proof of historic fishing by those applying, seems reasonable to me, a cohort of froggies are struggling to provide this in support of their application, likely because they haven't been fishing the area for years to meet the conditions.

    Also, Jersey has decided to change rules on access which its perfectly entitled to do.

    The new reality is that rules can and will change now, some will lose as a result and they naturally won't be happy. The EU don't like it because someone except them is making them.

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    looks like the bleak predictions of Brexit did happen at the end,

    complete of blocade of imports and exparts between the EU and the UK,

    companies shutting down, 100 years old export businesses calling it quit etc...

    good work, people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    looks like the bleak predictions of Brexit did happen at the end,

    complete of blocade of imports and exparts between the EU and the UK,

    companies shutting down, 100 years old export businesses calling it quit etc...

    good work, people
    Actually, the UK seems to be doing rather well at the moment, with the BoE predicting a return to pre Covid economic levels towards the end of this year rather than next. Again, apart from the initial problems revolving around paperwork etc in the first few weeks, things have gone strangely quiet on that front. There does not appear to be any shortages of produce on supermarket shelves, companies (particularly in the hospitality sector) are reporting problems getting staff with unemployment now predicted to be far less than expected later this year.

    Of course there are still issues, Northern Ireland being the primary one. Again pragmatism will prevail eventually once the EU finally realise that the UK has indeed left and jumping up and down waving fists just aren't going to cut it any more. The agreement on fishing was always about the long game. The UK will have full control over its waters in 2026, and the domestic fishing industry need (and will) be supported/subsidised until then.

    Meanwhile of course, new trade deals are still being pursued and a more equitable immigration policy based on merit rather than right introduced. We won't mention the vaccine roll out as that might prick (sic) a nerve.

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