Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

^ i'm not seeing problems with any of that.

is s.a. still harping on about brexit. how many years has he been banging on about it now? it's all he talks about. the man's obsessed, pity his wife who has to listen to his spittle flecked invective day after day. poor chaps demented. yelling at clouds, boring the arse of anyone within earshot. but i suppose being marooned in the ghost town that is pattaya for over a year now will induce the kind of "mental health problems" that the left are always banging on about in their never ending search for more victims to identify.



look s.a., the eu has over the past week shown itself up for what it is.

macron and merkel have been thoroughly discredited, and avl continues to dump on astra zenica for its public spirited resolution to offer the life saving vaccine to the world at cost.

they are falling like flies across france and germany thanks to poor planning, their inability to secure supplies of the vaccine, and their lies about the az vaccine, for which they blame the uk, the country that had the foresight to place orders in good time and eductae their people about the benefits of the vaccine programme.

deaths in france deaths now approach 100,000, italy is up to 110,000 and in germany it's nearly 80,000. yes, the uk made some terrible mistakes early on resulting in a higher death toll, but the continent is fast catching up and all they can do about it is blame the uk. you would have thought that after a year their record would be improving.

brexit, as i keep saying, is a long game. free(ish) movement will at some point be allowed, as will free trade, once the euro dicks have swallowed their pride and have come to realise that rather than penalise a country that outperforms them, they should learn from it and seek to better themselves.

germany has had its days of glory and is on a downward spiral, and will drag the execrable french with them. covid has castrated most of the west, but a small country like the uk acting independently stands a better chance of recovery that the lumbering dinosaur that is the eu.

long game s.a., long game. tortoise and the hare.

your ridiculous comments over a bunch of scrotes that got kicked out of spain shows just how depleted your armoury is.
of course they deserved to get kicked out. they didn't abide by the rules. same as if you overstay your visas in thailand.

wasn't it Tax who wrote two years ago, ............

remind me again, who was it that has been forecasting the demise of the pound and parity with both the dollar and the euro ever since the brexit vote.


look s.a., give it a rest with brexit will you. you repeat the same old shite time after time. yes the uk will take a hit, that was never in doubt, but in the long run we will be much better off.

tootle pip old chap.

I trust SA will thank Britain for kindly donating millions of vaccines to the hapless pikies.

You really are becoming quite stupid in your senescence, Tax.

COVID transmission isn't political or economic, it is epidemiological but providing an environment in which it is controlled is the responsibility of government and in this respect Bozo the Clown and the English have been proved the worst in Europe having killed over 150,000 citizens through incompetence and greed.

Now, the EU travails in vaccinating their citizens have stemmed in the main from hoarding by the US and UK. Now that production of vaccine stocks is well under way in the EU the issue will be resolved soon but the EU has learned a valuable lesson in that thy have realised that despite the vacuous Bozo rhetoric, the UK is an enemy and not an ally.

My forecast re £ parity with the USD, and less than the Euro, was predicated on a WTO exit, an exchange rate most established economic institutions also foretold. You are an ageing decrepit Tax but do try to keep up, nevertheless.

Also, I see from the media that the CBI are now flooded with complaints from thousands of SMEs unable to trade because of the BRITISH IMPOSED Brexit protocols arising out of the BRITISH decision to exit the single market and customs union, a policy position established in October 2016 by May at the then Tory party conference when she publicised her alignment with the ERG fascist wing of the Tory party. This is a fundamental tenet of Tory ERG policy in turning the clock back and is not transitional Tax, it goes to the heart of the freebooting, carpetbagging, tax evading, third world exploitation strategy of the corporate/hedge-funding shysters in whose pocket their Tory shills are firmly embedded.

So far, the haulage, fishing and food exporting industries have been shafted, Tax, who is next?

^ but you are wrong. Recording of and assigning deaths as COVID related when the subject died months later of unrelated causes points to the system of recording COVID fatalities as flawed and likely explains why the deaths are higher in the UK. Have a look also at the deaths / Million pop and the UK is far from alone.

mad loony mcloon

COVID transmission isn't political or economic,

tell that to brussels not me, you fucking idiot.

the EU travails in vaccinating their citizens have stemmed in the main from hoarding by the US and UK.

seriously, have you had a stroke recently?

the eu travails are a direct result of the eus' tardiness in ordering, and at the moment there are millions of doses of vaccine sitting unused in storage in france and germany thanks to macron and merkels comments about it.

boris and trump both took a gamble and ordered vaccines. the eu dithered and dallied, failed to order and now have the gall to complain that other countries have an unfair advantage.

neither the uk nor the us have hoarded any, they are quickly delivered and jabbed into peoples arms thanks to an efficient vaccination programmes set up by biden and boris.


as for the rest of your seething rant, teething troubles that's all. give it a few months.

meanwhile ..... chew on this.

The soft-socialist EU believes 'fairness' is more important than saving lives
In the eyes of Brussels, British success deserves to be penalised for leaving others behind, not praised

JANET DALEY
27 March 2021 • 1:01pm
Janet Daley



Having had its product’s efficacy, reliability and safety repeatedly trashed by European heads of state, to the point where the stocks of its vaccine presently stored in the EU cannot be given away, AstraZeneca is now being accused of reneging on contractual commitments to supply ever more quantities of the substance that Europe has managed, completely unjustifiably, to discredit. This situation is now technically incomprehensible.

So hysterical have the attacks become on this defenceless company – which, as I have suggested, has become the rhetorical stand-in for the UK now so demonstrably, infuriatingly beating the EU in the vaccination race – that the attacks on it verge on the defamatory. One MEP suggested in a broadcast interview last week that the claim that AstraZeneca was not making profits on the sale of its vaccine was somehow doubtful. (“We would have to look at the books”, he said, with triumphant suspicion.)

Not that the UK government itself is completely spared the vituperation. As I write there are still emanations of blustering gibberish directed at UK policy being fired across the Channel. The French foreign minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, has said that the EU would “not be blackmailed” by the UK as a consequence of our decision to offer as many first doses as possible. So far as I can tell, this absurd remark refers to the possibility that we might claim to be running short of second jab vaccines to justify demanding more of the AstraZeneca product (which, until about twenty minutes ago, the EU regarded as inferior). Is that what he means? Your guess is as good as mine.

What on earth do these people think they are doing? Apart, of course, from trying to shift the blame from the hopeless mess they have made of their own vaccination programme which, by unfortunate contrast with their newly independent next door neighbour, could suggest that belonging to the EU and being party to its bloc mentality might not be such a great idea. That conclusion, as we know, would be an existential threat to the entire European project which is why the principal architects of it – France and Germany, whose leaders usually manage to talk intelligible sense – are reduced to incoherence for the moment.

If the idea takes hold that the structures and decision-making processes of the EU are not just cumbersome or vaguely annoying but quite literally life-threatening, that the unity of the bloc matters more to its leaders than the survival of its citizens – well, there will be no coming back from that, will there?


In a superhuman and counter intuitive attempt at broadmindedness I will attempt to give some plausible account of what might be the EU’s current thinking. First, there is the rather unsavoury commercial angle: AstraZeneca’s vaccine development was funded directly by the British Government which is why it was both possible and ethically appropriate for it to be distributed on a non-profit basis. But in creating a publicly-funded competitor to the private pharmaceutical companies, the UK distorted the market: the new entrant could make a cheaper product which undercut the existing manufacturers who are now almost certainly bringing pressure on foreign governments, in the US as well as Europe, to push the interloper out of the picture.

This is in paradoxical contrast to the larger, more idealistic rationale which the EU officially espouses, the key to which lies in those recent additions to its list of favoured abstract nouns. Everybody is now uttering the words “reciprocity” and “proportionality” as if they were an instant moral formula (like the old favourite “solidarity”) which can silence any argument.

What they appear to amount to is the basic soft-socialist concept of fairness – which is to say, everybody must have everything that everybody else has at exactly the same time. This is the traditional basis for wealth redistribution and equality of outcome. Nobody must have any more advantages in terms of wealth, education, health or whatever, than anyone else, even if they have made a greater effort or been of more virtuous character. (Because having the resources to make more of an effort or be more virtuous is itself an unfair advantage.) So it is inherently unfair for the UK to benefit from the fact that it made better and faster decisions about its vaccine programme, including choosing to subsidise its own vaccine development company.

What this amounts to in practice is that no state (EU member or not) should be able to get ahead of any other, whatever the quality of its own decisions and the competence of its management. EU spokesmen were saying quite explicitly when this vindictive row began that the UK rollout should actually be held up until the EU countries, which were performing less well, caught up – even, presumably, if this were to cost lives. Britain should be penalised or handicapped, in other words, for being too successful at preventing serious illness and deaths among its own population. I find the idea that such a notion should be contemplated – let alone shamelessly pronounced as a public statement – pretty staggering.

So, rather oddly, the EU finds itself attacking a vaccine manufacturer which is state-subsidised and declining to make a profit, preferring instead to advance the interests of private, profit-harvesting capitalist outfits, while with its official philosophical hat on, making the case for absolute socialist equality and universally shared benefit. There is something about those shibboleths of “reciprocity” and “proportionality” (and “solidarity” too) that is oddly reminiscent of the unreformed medieval Church trying to fight off, in the name of the greater good, the Protestant notions of individual initiative and the rewarding of competitiveness. And yet the venture which most obviously embodies those social virtues is attacked. Very confusing.

The soft-socialist EU believes 'fairness' is more important than saving lives

Poor Tax, incapable of constructing an argument much beyond deliberating how soon one should separate a whippet from its crown jewels or weighing the benefit of buggering Gladys Arkwright while her husband is still staggering home from the Goose & Ferret, resorts to a cut 'n paste job of a geriatric, post menopausal hack American scribbler who uses a post-graduate PPE to write all her copy.

Tax, the EU isn't an entity of itself, it's a fucking association that represents an socio-economic body of 27 nations the envy of the world.

Engerlandia is debt ridden, debt driven, welfare addicted and without a trading basis more than that which contributes a mere 9% to its GDP.

You owe more than you have ever have done since WW2 and you have cut yourself off from a market 22 miles distant that accounted for 49% of your manufactured trade.

You are nowhere.

Utter tosh.

Things have never been better in Brexit Britain

Originally Posted by strigils

. Recording of and assigning deaths as COVID related when the subject died months later of unrelated causes points to the system of recording COVID fatalities as flawed and likely explains why the deaths are higher in the UK

...and there haven't been any cuts to the armed forces either.



stringbean using his 'stick fingers in ears and shout loudly' defence against the obvious again.

^ they aren't cutting numbers, they are reducing liability to the levels they've not be able to recruit above for the last 5 years, another subject you you know nothing about yet feel compelled to comment upon.

Originally Posted by strigils

they aren't cutting numbers, they are reducing liability to the levels they've not be able to recruit above for the last 5 years, another subject you you know nothing about yet feel compelled to comment upon.

Of course it is a reduction.
The current limit is 82000 a number they have not been able to reach for many years. That doesn't change the fact that the new limit is 72000 and they won't take any more recruits even if more would be available. It is a change of the upper limit, it is a reduction.

Is he still banging away at this, trying to argue black is white.

Better tell it to every news provider in the UK, including his right wing favourites.

My Samsung S8 has this text to speech feature. It reads anything on the screen. I purchased a Sean Barrett voice for the speech engine for PDF books.

Listening to these 2 brexit cretins rants with the Sean Barrett voice. Now that is funny shit

Christ. Kill the bill protest in London. Cops and protesters beating the shit out of each other

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/st...182632449?s=19

Apparently the bill is some Russian style regulations on protests

Yahoo.news

Hundreds in London and several cities across England and Wales rallied in "kill the bill" protests on Saturday against a proposed law that would broaden police authority for regulating demonstrations, according to Reuters.

Why it matters: Opponents of the bill say it could be used to curb dissent and individual freedoms and could excuse heavy-handed tactics used by police to break up peaceful protests.

^
and how is this related to Brexit?

Originally Posted by lom

and how is this related to Brexit?

A Swede living in Thailand, how are you relevant to Brexit. In fact Sweden is mostly irrelevant to the world, especially since Saab disappeared. The only thing you had going for you is Blonde women.....no one likes a massive bush.

^^ It's Backspin, he's just showing off he knows that London is in Britain....

Originally Posted by strigils

In fact Sweden is mostly irrelevant to the world, especially since Saab diaappeared.

JAS-39, Thailand

^ Irrelevant to Brexit Troy, not really relevant to the world TBH, lovely planes and i always loved the gripen. Does UK own any of Saab, nope BAES sold it.

Originally Posted by Troy

It's Backspin, he's just showing off he knows that London is in Britain....

Y'know that might actually be it.

Originally Posted by Troy

^^ It's Backspin, he's just showing off he knows that London is in Britain....

I don't think it was necessary to make a new thread about this fuckery. This is where all the talk about Britain is.

^ but you, Troy, Sybille, Lommy, SukingArse and all the others who keep on belly aching over Brexit which is hilarious, you are all irrelevant to the UK and its future, you've never been relevant.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Y'know that might actually be it.

More vacuous wisecracks from a sand bound chav

Originally Posted by strigils

^ but you, Troy, Sybille, Lommy, SukingArse and all the others who keep on belly aching over Brexit which is hilarious, you are all irrelevant to the UK and its future, you've never been relevant.

Well, I certainly don't want to be associated with people like you.