Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The poor are certainly going to get poorer but the sleaze bag Tories will coin it until the worm turns and Labour yet again will have to sweep up the shit.

John Major was fucked over by the Euro bastards and in the end the Tory sleazebags dribbled out of government like a trail of odiferous slime oozing out of a dysenteric fundament that was eventually cleansed by the enema of 13 years of Labour rule.

This current Tory farce is but a re-run and Starmer will be the man to don the marigolds.

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more ravings from an increasingly delusional champagne socialist.

How much did the HMRC chap say the other day would be the cost of obtaining export/import licences? Oh yes, £7 billions, annually. And that's just the cost of the fees, never mind the brokers and factors weighing in.

Honestly, the fucking stupid ignorance of Brexiteers is crushing in its sheer imbecility.

And what did those fucking idiots Gove and Davis say at the very outset? Oh yes, we are holding all the cards, this will be the easiest deal in history, Britain will be dancing with fucking unicorns.

Surely Tax, you cannot be that stupid, can you?

Originally Posted by PAG

On the topic of 'irrelevant', are you deliberately making sure that your 'input' has nothing to do with anything?

Originally Posted by taxexile

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more ravings from an increasingly delusional champagne socialist.

Your long speal about the rising Euro is complete and utter fucking poppycock and Seppo agitprop.

The Euro went from .80 to 1.50 in 2007/8 and Euro exports soared the whole time.

Whenever the $eppo rises , everyone touts the USD as the only game in town and how it shows that the US is great. But then when the Euro rises , oh man. The end of Europe.

Privately, many BREXITers know the country is heading to disaster.

The name of the game for them now is the blame game. They will perform any number of logic somersaults to blame the EU, execute them badly and fall flat on their faces.

Just watch.

Originally Posted by cyrille

On the topic of 'irrelevant', are you deliberately making sure that your 'input' has nothing to do with anything?

Truth be told, the contributions to this thread by those of us UK citizens who choose to neither work or reside in the UK is irrelevant. I personally have disdain for those who don't accept the majority decision by the UK to leave the EU, and find it odd that those members of this forum who do still live in the UK are strongly in favour of having left.

As a footnote, I believe that the EU has underestimated the support that BJ has garnered from within his cabinet, thinking that it would be a Theresa May mark II scenario. If anything, their latest attempt to blackmail the UK into prolonging their tenuous control over those elements of their released contingency strategy will strenghten a 'we will not be bullied' attitude amongst the public at large. Better to take a punch on the nose now and save the "revenge is a dish best served cold" for later. The EU's own reputation is not coming out of this well, and lends credence to why it was felt necessary to introduce those clauses into the Internal Market Bill.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Well the stage is now set for BoJo to do what he's done throughout his entire political career.

Pathetic climbdown sold as skilfully engineered victory on the way.

Originally Posted by cyrille

The name of the game for them now is the blame game. They will perform any number of logic somersaults to blame the EU, execute them badly and fall flat on their faces.

Just watch.

Which will it be, cyrille?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Which will it be, cyrille?

That is the question we are waiting to get an answer to within a few days.
I put my money on no climbdown by BoJo who will blame the EU for the no deal.

Originally Posted by lom

I put my money on no climbdown by BoJo who will blame the EU for the no deal.

It's a no win by either side as each will blame the other. In the event of a deal both side will claim victory.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Which will it be, cyrille?

The first comment was about BoJo the clown.

The second is about BREXITers with huge shoes posting on TD.

That's why the two posts have two different subjects, Nev.

I think that the 3 clauses being removed from the IMB without a trade deal and without Gove resigning speaks volumes about this government.

The EU need the UK yo adhere to EU rules if tariff free trade is to be maintained. That is not a punishment despite the bojo spin.

Originally Posted by cyrille

The first comment was about BoJo the clown.

The second is about BREXITers with huge shoes posting on TD.

That's why the two posts have two different subjects, Nev.

Indeed, cyrille, but the first comment assumes a deal is made (after a UK climbdown) and the second comment assumes no deal is made (and the EU is blamed for that). Two different outcomes - deal, no deal. Surely both your comments/predictions can't be right.

Originally Posted by Backspin

everyone touts the USD as the only game in town

You might try widening you searches and gain wider opinions.

Originally Posted by Troy

The EU need the UK yo adhere to EU rules

Unfortunately for the EU some eastern European governments are also questioning EU rules.


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Originally Posted by Troy

The EU need the UK yo adhere to EU rules if tariff free trade is to be maintained. That is not a punishment despite the bojo spin.

OK, name one other country with whom the EU currently has trade agreements with, and have to adhere to the same criteria the EU requires of the UK. Please don't use the bar cashier excuse (ah but this one's different).

Name one other country that has tariff free trade but no freedom of movement.

Even the ultra-xenophobic Swiss allow it.

And Nev...both scenarios are possible after an agreement. Have you not been viewing the political hall of mirrors of the last five years? Or reading the ‘looney toons’ posts of buriramboy et al?

An agreement being reached and the EU being blamed for anything that is unsatisfactory is impossible how, exactly?

If they can be blamed for straight fucking bananas...

Originally Posted by PAG

Truth be told, the contributions to this thread by those of us UK citizens who choose to neither work or reside in the UK is irrelevant. I personally have disdain for those who don't accept the majority decision by the UK to leave the EU, and find it odd that those members of this forum who do still live in the UK are strongly in favour of having left.

As a footnote, I believe that the EU has underestimated the support that BJ has garnered from within his cabinet, thinking that it would be a Theresa May mark II scenario. If anything, their latest attempt to blackmail the UK into prolonging their tenuous control over those elements of their released contingency strategy will strenghten a 'we will not be bullied' attitude amongst the public at large. Better to take a punch on the nose now and save the "revenge is a dish best served cold" for later. The EU's own reputation is not coming out of this well, and lends credence to why it was felt necessary to introduce those clauses into the Internal Market Bill.

One can only assume you are quite old, not a little stupid and poorly educated.

The referendum was not an immutable plebiscite cast in stone until the next millennia, it was akin to any democratic act of universal suffrage and subject to change depending upon the will of our appointed parliamentary representatives, a group upon whom the masses may choose to prevail at any juncture in the exercise of the democratic process including free expression, either through lobbies or the fourth estate.

The EU is not punishing anyone. It is simply excluding the UK if it fails to obey the wishes of the member states in its request for preferential treatment as a third country seeking economic betterment. It is scarcely rocket science, you want the cherries you dance to the tune played by the piper.

That the cabinet is unanimously behind the Clown is scarcely surprising given every single one of them was not appointed out of merit, skill or experience but out of a demonstrated slavish desire to kiss BoJo's ring and declare their undying faith to the act of Brexit in any and all circumstances.

Brexit remains the single greatest act of self harm by the UK.

And if the Clown dos not desist from his reckless foolhardiness he will drag the country into the mire for a decade to come.

What's really amusing is BoJo's continual reference to exiting the transition period on the terms of the "Australia style" deal. There is no such fucking thing but the sad fat lying little short-arsed fuck can't bring himself to say Britain will be trading with the EU on WTO terms like any other third world, banana republic, coon state.

Originally Posted by PAG

OK, name one other country with whom the EU currently has trade agreements with, and have to adhere to the same criteria the EU requires of the UK. Please don't use the bar cashier excuse (ah but this one's different).

You really are a bit of a thicko. The UK is 22 miles distant from the EU trading grounds. The FTAs agreed with others, subject to terms that can be altered on review, concern countries that are in different hemispheres and continents that determine a different cost/benefit mechanism protecting each other's domestic markets, you gormless oaf.

You Brexit monkeys really are too stupid to grasp what has actually happened. You chose to leave the club, so fuck off and play someplace else or if you still want some perks that came with your earlier membership then you are going to have to abide by the rules of the committee.

Let’s not pretend that the issue is about The UK against 27 member countries.

Now Macron has been told to shut up, it’s about what Merkel wants for Germany before she retires. If any of the 27 states were bold enough to speak out, it could be different, but Merkel will simply tell Barnier what he can and cannot accept, in the name of the EU.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You Brexit monkeys really are too stupid to grasp what has actually happened. You chose to leave the club, so fuck off and play someplace else or if you still want some perks that came with your earlier membership then you are going to have to abide by the rules of the committee.

How many times has this been posted in various forms on various BREXIT threads over the years?

Which part do people still not understand?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Which part do people still not understand?

This: TANSTAAFL

In order to peel those blinkers off they would first have to admit that they were credulous fools who believed a bunch of snake oil peddling charlatans and weretoo dimwitted to believe the truth when we more intelligent shoved it down their throats, and that takes time.

Personally, I would have thought a 2% loss in GDP over four years and a devaluation of their currency by 20% would have been sufficient for even the stupidest of the stupid to realise that were wrong but then, Brexiteers are a special kind of imbecile.

Originally Posted by PAG

OK, name one other country with whom the EU currently has trade agreements with, and have to adhere to the same criteria the EU requires of the UK

Norway ?