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    In other news its hilarious watching the committee flex its muscles, in this case i agree but fuk are they funny. On the world stage the EU has all the clout of a Sausages jab.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/13/eu-to-put-cayman-islands-on-tax-haven-blacklist

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    ^ how is that related to Brexit? (which this thread is about)
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    Absolutely F***n brilliant. The state of the nation:-


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    Ah well, we had a while of good discussion . . .

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    Specky mouthy twa
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    pimple of a country
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    Yermany looking at a doubling of contributions
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    On the world stage the EU has all the clout of a Sausages jab.


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    ^ how is that related to Brexit? (which this thread is about)
    It's not . . . but the Daily Mirror-esque normality has returned
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    Upto until the 70's Australians referred to themselves as Pom's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Some pretty informed posts, most would say.

    You're just being a nob.
    Dry yer eyes mate.

    Most of whom would say? Your Guardian reader mates perhaps. The blind leading the blind again. If only you could form an opinion of your own, instead of parroting other less well informed people.

    The only nob in this debate is you.
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    I hope we don't get to 1000 pages on this thread...

    It's over, it's done. The EU have now taken their standard negotiating stance of: we want everything, but will give nothing. As they always do, then they concede loads at the 11th hour to make the deal. Boris' only possible reply is: we will take everything and give you nothing. Bye Bye. Then at the 11th hour, when the EU actually start negotiating, the deal can be done. Until mid/late October, it'll all be posturing, so no need to take any of it seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I hope we don't get to 1000 pages on this thread...It's over, it's done.
    ...as you then go on to post something you've already posted previously.

    Looks like you answered your own question.

    And it's demonstrated again that you are still pathetically deluded about which side caved in.

    So there's that reason, I guess.

    And the thread's at 17,642 posts. The pages are irrelevant as it depends how many posts you choose to display on the page.


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    ^^ As I wrote a few post up, the possibility for a Canada type deal (what Britain wants) is basically NIL because of the time frame (8 month) Bojo has locked Britain into.
    What kind of deal do you think Britain will get if they start the real negotiating at the 11th hour? Oh, you didn't think of that, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    True, but with services close to 80% of GDP and London has already lost quite a few financial institutions, leaving mostly for Paris, Amsterdam and Frankfurt . . . and will lose far more. Top 5, soon to be no more.
    I think you will find the 'exodus' of financial firms to Europe consists mainly of standard business practice, or insurance, by setting up legal bases to straddle whatever results from the current era of uncertainty, through a few legal documents, a handful of personnel and some computers. Nothing lost if the City preserves its status, and much to gain from forward planning for the worst case scenario.

    A few years will pass and things will be a new normal
    I think you will find politics, law, economics and society are subject to continuous change, so that whatever there is today will be different as the norm some years later.

    Remainers say Brexit will be worse and provide 'facts' and speculation in support, while Brexiteers say it will be better with different facts and speculation, though not even the 'experts' know what Europe will look like in ten or 20 years from now. The only thing we should know and which many fail to address, is that without urgent reform which is unlikely, the EU's ultimate goal of full Union is a lunatic fantasy that could never be realised.

    Full steam ahead.

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    Lom, its WTO or whether the EU committee can make a decision. So its WTO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Lom, its WTO or whether the EU committee can make a decision. So its WTO.
    That is the answer.

    As the Greek former minster has repeatedly said, the EU has certain tactics and they don't bend. At the 11th hour, their real position comes out; they will behind the scenes put everything in place (while claiming it's impossible) just like they always do.

    WTO works fine for us. The EU are desperate for many things from the UK, for example they have stated openly that they don't want the UK to be able to compete against the EU; for the UK, we do want to actively compete against the EU, we want out of the protectionist markets - balancing that against the US deal will be tricky, but Boris will have to bluff both sides (just as they will be doing to him).

    I agree with Sabang that Boris' time limit is a very good idea (he can always easily extend it if he wants to, so it's not at all binding); Sabang gave some good reasons. Basically, stuff like a Coronavirus (locally) or a banking collapse or political instability or so many other things have a far greater impact than Brexit. This is exactly what business has always said: get on with it, we will deal with it once we know the terms; with change there is opportunity.
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    The point is that in the document they have drawn up they has set so many boundaries and rules that the UK may as well still be a part of the EU, so they must be expecting the UK to leave with No Deal. What is odd is that they were screeching for months over a so called "Crash Out" and how disastrous it would be but it is the EU. I suspect the fate of the deal will reside in a casting vote by Malta. WTO it is. Fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The EU have now taken their standard negotiating stance of: we want everything, but will give nothing. As they always do
    You're not aware of all the opt-out clauses the UK had?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    the EU's ultimate goal of full Union is a lunatic fantasy that could never be realised.
    This has been mentioned several times here . . . just what are you talking about? You know it's nonsense but keep repeating it
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    Well he said it's a lunatic fantasy.

    It's just a bit of a struggle for him to see who the lunatic is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^Well he said it's a lunatic fantasy.
    Worth repeating then, over and over . . . kind of like the Brexit lies fed the populace

    I really thought Brits were better than the Yanks with their orange afterbirth at the helm
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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    This has been mentioned several times here . . . just what are you talking about? You know it's nonsense but keep repeating it
    Wishful thinking is the spade you dig with, and when it happens shrug it off as er, a fluke or an aberration, but nothing to do with innate corruption or the unambiguous socialist endgame.

    Fact is we're leaving, hopefully with a fair deal, and whether you either would stay or profess to be neutral, nobody not even you or squirrel know how it'll turn out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Wishful thinking is the spade you dig with
    . . . yet you repeat it time and again.
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    I see European Commission Vice President Margaritis Schinas is relieved the UK has left, he's piped up at a EU Security summit stating the UK held up plans for an EU Army and Brexit is a good thing as the EU can now push ahead with it EU wide Defence Farce.

    Did he notice that quite a few members states fail to live up to their NATO commitments re Defence expenditure or even basic shit like turning up for exercises, nah.

    I think Yermany are going to have a devil of a time reigning in the various committees all looking to spend spend spend their money. Micron, if he remains in power is going to be a hoot over the next year.

    I love this, they are all crawling out of the woodwork to explain how much the UK has been a disruptive element in the EU, it'll keep the focus away from introspection for at least a year - bad UK, its a wonder they didn't make easier for us to leave sooner, even pay for us to leave.

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    ^ that cannot be true - the remoaners have repeatedly stated there will be no EU army...

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    I think maybe Russia should join the EU, and there you have the ready made EU Army. All the US bases can move to Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    More to the point they're mad because they will have to take all the East European trash themselves soon. Without us UK mugs around
    Eg half a milion delightful Romany gypos can truly focus even the most PC libtards minds
    And secondly Germany is jealous 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Booth View Post
    Without us UK mugs around
    Whine, whine, whine

    . . . the downtrodden, yet valiant Brits . . .

    Whine whine whine
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    IMO Boris is just looking for an excuse to leave the EU with no deal. The E.U.talking tough for a trade agreement is just pissing in the wind.

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