Brexit - It's Still On!

**Dragonfly** · 28-10-2019, 07:45 PM

FFS, what's the point? looks like EU27 is preparing for Revoke or Infinite Extension next time, since they are giving up on everything asked by Westminster

Brexit: European leaders agree extension to 31 January
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50205603

EU leaders have agreed in principle to extend Brexit until 31 January 2020 - meaning the UK will not leave as planned on Thursday.

EU Council President Donald Tusk said it was a "flextension" - meaning the UK could leave before the deadline if a deal was approved by Parliament.

It comes as MPs prepare to vote on proposals by Boris Johnson for an early general election on 12 December.

The SNP and Lib Dems have also proposed an election on 9 December.

The government has not ruled out getting behind that proposed date, if it fails to get its preferred date through the Commons later.

**Seekingasylum** · 28-10-2019, 08:02 PM

An election??

Like MacArthur, I shall return and vanquish the dribbling Brexit mofo idiocy with my vote.

**Chittychangchang** · 29-10-2019, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

An election??

Like MacArthur, I shall return and vanquish the dribbling Brexit mofo idiocy with my vote.

You couldn't afford the airfare home with the current exchange rate.

All bluff and bluster, typical Remoaner

**AntRobertson** · 29-10-2019, 08:55 AM

As a somewhat disinterested and impartial observer I feel confident in saying that I speak for others of the same bent when I say that I wish Brexit would go fuck itself.

What an interminable mess and bore it as turned into.

**jabir** · 29-10-2019, 10:47 AM

**Switch** · 29-10-2019, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

As a somewhat disinterested and impartial observer I feel confident in saying that I speak for others of the same bent when I say that I wish Brexit would go fuck itself.

What an interminable mess and bore it as turned into.

That’s ok. Seekingass will just find something equally boring and repetitive to cry about. He can never go home, and no one will ever buy that condo he lives in. Expect whining about selves natives, who refuse to buy second hand property.

**Seekingasylum** · 29-10-2019, 11:22 AM

Still, at last we shall have the pleasing prospect of the fat, albino sack of lying shit BoJo the Clown offing himself on the 31st in a ditch.

Or was that just more bombastic Brexshit rhetoric from a devious, sociopathic narcissistic buffoon, totally devoid of any honesty and with as much integrity as a puff of flatulence in a hurricane.

I hear the BMW production lines in the Netherlands are extending in readiness when Cowley is shut down.

And certainly, if I were employed in Broughton or Filton I would not be taking out any new mortgages or other long term loans .........

Brexit is truly going to be the endgame for what remains of British manufacturing and if the polls are right and the credulous public are stupid enough to give the Clown a majority then the destruction will be complete and the disintegration of the union a certainty.

It really is quite an exciting time in that we are witnessing the end of an era that began in 1690 and with it the last vestige of English colonialism will be flushed down the sewer of oblivion together with the tattered rags of its imperialism.

The British empire 1690 - 2022 RIP.

**Switch** · 29-10-2019, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The British empire 1690 - 2022 RIP.

The British Empire effectively ceased to exist following the partition of India in 1947.
Old fogies like you might like to think of Rhodesia in 1980, or Hong Kong in 1997, but in reality these were minor issues. A bit like t you really.

**Seekingasylum** · 29-10-2019, 02:28 PM

We Irish beg to disagree. As long as the northern counties remain under the jackboot of English oppression and their proxies, the plantation and colonial orphans so ably represented by the medieval DUP scum, the wretched empire still festers on.

**taxexile** · 29-10-2019, 03:46 PM

We Irish beg to disagree

how typically true to type.

**Norton** · 29-10-2019, 03:56 PM

So Boris is bringing another vote for election today. Will it be defeat no. 4?

**Norton** · 29-10-2019, 04:01 PM

Between the mess in the UK and the US "western style" democracies appear to have devolved to soon becoming extinct.

**Dragonfly** · 29-10-2019, 04:04 PM

Democracies always lead to authoritarian regimes, it's the logical evolution

things will get worse, not better

**Norton** · 29-10-2019, 06:33 PM

Dec election Brits. Be sure to vote. No 4 lucky for Boris.

**cyrille** · 29-10-2019, 06:35 PM

Corbyn has announced that Labour is ready to back a pre-Christmas general election.

**Norton** · 29-10-2019, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Corbyn has announced that Labour is ready to back a pre-Christmas general election.

Helped by Boris and EU ageeing for extension to 31 Jan.

**Dragonfly** · 29-10-2019, 10:21 PM

don't be fooled, something is going to happen and will stop the GE so they can be all back into their weekly shitshow to delay Brexit

**Troy** · 30-10-2019, 01:36 AM

^ another hung parliament would be rather fun. Where will Farage be running?

If England win the WC on Boris's watch then he'll end up with a landslide victory regardless.

**Switch** · 30-10-2019, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

don't be fooled, something is going to happen and will stop the GE so they can be all back into their weekly shitshow to delay Brexit

Post preserved, just to point to another butters failure.
I have no idea how people will vote, and I don’t really care much about the result, other than two likely outcomes.
1. The result will hopefully bring brexit to a conclusion.
2. The result will see butters well and truly shown up as a blistering failure.

**Seekingasylum** · 30-10-2019, 08:12 AM

This is a huge punt by the LibDems in hoping they will reap a dividend by being the Remain party and the party that put country first and contrived an election bringing an end to the deadlock. Personally, I think the gamble was precipitate and stupid. Before, they were seen as a party that wanted a second referendum in order to revoke and were steadfast in that aim, and the longer the Brexit farce dragged on the more they were seen as an attractive alternative to BoJo. Now that BoJo has been let off the hook and given his election he so desperately wanted before Xmas ( a Labour party under the leadership of Corbyn is not guaranteed to last another year and without him at the helm the Tories were not guaranteed to win a majority), the public have been given the opportunity to resolve matters themselves and will almost certainly vote for Tories, for "closure", breaking the deadlock once and for all.

This is a disaster for those who know that Brexit means a lurch to the extreme right and the creation of a faux, ersatz, gimcrack, cod, phoney US - like state with a further polarisation between the burgeoning corporate carpetbaggers and their tax-dodging shills, and the exploited.

The Tories will almost certainly win an overall majority, and with a party that has purged itself of "remainers", they will harden Brexit into a Frankenstein construct born out of the diseased minds of the vested interests feasting on their reinvigorated Thatcherite fantasies.

I imagine with the degree of stupidity now prevalent in England, that a Tory majority could be in the region of 30+. This will almost certainly mean Scottish independence is that much nearer as indeed will be Irish unification.

The £ is in for an interesting ride but if the augurs are right, and England moves to dismantle the current welfare state, to reduce workers rights and to privatise the NHS as it establishes its new iteration as a pseudo freebooting state, then its relationship with the EU will inevitably be confrontational and any chance of a free trade relationship will almost certainly be curtailed as lines of competition are drawn down the Channel.

As I said before, in these circumstances it is now a certainty that Nissan, Toyota, BMW, PSA, the remains of Ford and Airbus will quit England. Inward investment will be American predators looking to take a slice of the £120 billions NHS pie and to dump their food surpluses, and Asians will be buying up cheap assets as the country morphs into a third country tat destination utterly reliant on its services sector with a working population of poorly paid drones.

Ultimately, it makes sense that the £ will achieve parity with the $US, Engerlandia will be just another satellite stooge for Uncle Sam.

In the end Brexit is going to kill the Tories stone dead when the reality dawns on what passes for possibly the most foolish electorate in the free world.

**cyrille** · 30-10-2019, 12:07 PM

Another Tory having a 'Don't You Know Who I Am?!' moment. What a bunch of yobs.

A top aide to the home secretary was escorted out of a bar in the Houses of Parliament by armed police on Tuesday night, just as MPs were voting on an election that Boris Johnson wants to make about law and order.

Two people who witnessed the incident said Priti Patel’s chief of staff, James Starkie, was ordered out of Strangers’ Bar, which is frequented by MPs, after swearing loudly in the vicinity of the Conservative MP Bob Stewart, being refused service and appearing to punch a door.

**Warwick** · 30-10-2019, 02:42 PM

^ and this what to do with Brexit?

Oh! It's a Cyrille post - that explains everything i.e. it's nothing.

**Dragonfly** · 30-10-2019, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Switch

Post preserved, just to point to another butters failure.
I have no idea how people will vote, and I don’t really care much about the result, other than two likely outcomes.
1. The result will hopefully bring brexit to a conclusion.
2. The result will see butters well and truly shown up as a blistering failure.

you must have missed the part where they tried to have an amendment for teenager votes and European nationals to vote, a plan that would have delayed the GE by 6 months

and it was a close call, about 30 votes could have changed the outcome

anyway good news, you have a GE, a REF2 would been better, but I guess a GE was also necessary at this stage

**Bettyboo** · 30-10-2019, 03:17 PM

Let's hope Mr Sausage is right (there's always the possibility of a first time...), and the Tories win with a Brexit mandate then push Boris' deal out to a nigh on "No Deal" Brexit. He is gonna have to work with Farage somehow though...

Imagine if the LibDems somehow got a majority and just passed a law revoking - it's almost worth them winning to see the reaction to that approach; almost, but not quite.

However Labour do, Corbyn will be out; if Labour do well, Starmer will want to take over the party; if Labour do badly, Starmer will want to take over the party. What's the betting on Starmer being Labour leader by February/March?

**jabir** · 30-10-2019, 05:12 PM

Fairly well balanced with teams Lib+Lab vs Bojo+Farage, essentially leave/stay if we discount airs and egos, landslide Tory, and the remoaners resume Parliamentary/media guerrilla tactics to frustrate what the people once again decided to go with.

Either way, Brit politics will not survive these times without permanent and hopefully radical change.

Aw shucks, did I say guerrilla tactics?

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