Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by S Landreth

you’ve referenced soybeans related to the Chinese a number of times. Soybean prices are down about 20% (plus) past three months.

You’re an awful troll. Pick it up.

Fallout for farmers: Chinese soybean tariffs - Ryan Findlay, American Soybean Association CEO, discusses how soybean farmers are hurting from the trade war with China, an important export market for U.S. soybean farmers.: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/07/1...n-tariffs.html

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1. You are linking a comedy show not a news show.
2. How am I a troll for discussing soybean futures? You are referring to the spot market I said check out soybean futures. Check out soybean futures Soybeans Mar 20 (SH20.CBT)
If you need some education on the CBT by all means google it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/09/b...er=rss&emc=rss

I guess you didn't know that American media is 90% anti Trump and is trying to replace news sources with comedy shows that are not governed by the same rules.

To restate I have said nothing false and my comments will give you a realistic understanding of how the trade war is going. I don't quote fake news like you do by confusing the Colbert comedy show with news shows.

Originally Posted by mark45y

I guess you didn't know that American media is 90% anti Trump

That's because he's a useless c u n t.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The UK has no problem with the USA (America). Most countries don't.

But most countries know baldy orange cunto is a retarded wanker. Hopefully
November will see him sitting in the office twattering away to himself until he's voted out.

... This

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The UK has no problem with America. Most countries don't.

But most countries know baldy orange cunto is a retarded wanker. Hopefully November will see him sitting in the office twattering away to himself until he's voted out.

Most countries don't (respective foreign policies etc), yes. But many people within those countries do (US foreign policies etc). And baldy orange cunto is making sure the numbers of those people continues to grow.

A lot of creativity being shown about Trumps visit to the UK, here's some pics...

Few can insult as well as the Scots.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Recovery? Like an uptick? Or full recovery to the price they were before/or soon after trump announced tariffs on Chinese imports?

Go ahead, let us know when the Soybean farmers will be getting the price (full recovery) for their soybeans before trump made his remarks.

It doesn’t look like a full recovery in 2020 or 2021. When? I think there are some farmers that would like to know.

Michigan farmers caught in trade war crossfire

As David Williams looked over the soybean fields of his 3,800-acre farm, he counted the ways he's had to handle falling commodity prices in recent years: not purchasing new equipment, cutting costs, finding less expensive farming methods.

And now that China has implemented 25 percent tit-for-tat tariffs on soybeans and other imports from the United States, the 67-year-old president of the Michigan Soybean Association wonders what that will mean for the future.

"Nobody wins in a trade war," said Williams, a fifth-generation farmer. "We’re not going to win. China’s not going to win. In the meantime, soybean farmers are just hurting."

With farm net incomes down nearly 60 percent since 2013, many farmers who supported the president in 2016 are feeling further strain as they face the repercussions of an intensifying trade war. The price of soybeans has plunged 17 percent in the past month. Williams has seen $2 less per bushel of soybeans, about a 20 percent decrease.

"I feel like agriculture has supported the current administration," Williams said. "I don’t feel that support coming back to us."

Many farmers are voicing their concerns to the administration and their congressmen. Williams flew to Washington, D.C., this week to speak with as many representatives and senators as he could.

"So far," he said, "our pleas have fallen on deaf ears.": https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...ire/760321002/ - https://www.investing.com/commodities/us-soybeans

The safety net, also known as a revenue guarantee, is established at the end of each February based on futures prices for the December corn and November soybean contracts. The 2018 prices are $3.96 per bushel for corn and $10.16 per bushel for soybeans. Prices are unchanged from 2017 for corn and down 3 cents for soybeans compared to last year.

Argentina has already bought 240,000 tonnes of soybeans from the United States, its largest purchase in 20 years, with sales registered for the 2018/19 marketing year which begin in September.


The rising cost of South American soybeans has also improved the competitiveness of U.S. supplies in other markets such as the European Union, the world’s number two importer.

“If China sweeps South America clean of soybeans, other big importers like the EU, Mexico, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and Egypt will have to find new supplies,” one European soybean trader said.

“I think the answer is the U.S. I think a lot of buyers will be knocking on the doors of U.S. soybean exporters in the coming months if the trade war really gets going.”

“We’re already seeing the EU switch from Brazil (to the U.S.) because their prices have taken off,” said one U.S. soybean trader.

Trump, May and 'fake schmooze': today's front pages
With his incendiary interview and attempts to repair the damage, Donald Trump’s UK visit left a trail of havoc – and the papers try to reflect that

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ys-front-pages

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ys-front-pages

Oily and obnoxious personality.

Trump's oily and obnoxious personality sorely tests British diplomacy.
The contradictory US president’s inclination is to side with those who want to break up the EU


Patrick Wintour Diplomatic editor


Fri 13 Jul 2018 17.49 BST Last modified on Fri 13 Jul 2018 21.59 BST
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Donald Trump with the Queen at Windsor Castle. Photograph: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters
Donald Trump’s Jekyll and Hyde performance on the opening leg of his European tour – one minute angrily wielding a wrecking ball and the next playing the oleaginous anglophile – will hardly leave European diplomats, especially those in Britain, reassured as they brace themselves for his bilateral summit with Vladimir Putin on Monday.
It is this meeting – the two men have met only two and a half times before according to Trump’s own arithmetic – that contains the most serious risk to the battered western alliance.
After Friday’s press conference with Theresa May in which he rowed back on some of the more incendiary remarks he made about Brexit in his interview with the Sun, British officials were reassured the US president can be chastened, if not cowed, when confronted by the damage he has wreaked. But they cannot know whether Trump, restored by two days on the Scottish links, will regain his bullish self confidence as the master deal-maker by the time he reaches the Russian president in Helsinki.
It is clear from the past two days that Trump’s inclination is to side with those who want to break up the European Union, while he at least regards Nato’s survival as a matter for discussion. But if Trump is to go the next stage in weakening the EU as an institution, the meeting with Putin will be critical.


Indeed, UK officials said some of the most searching exchanges between Britain and the US over the past two days had been to try to set some red lines on the concessions Trump might make. A two-page communique is apparently being prepared for Helsinki and may contain statements not to interfere in one another’s elections. The value of such commitments will be questionable given Russia’s refusal to accept responsibility for its interference in 2016.
The difficulty for the EU is that the US policy towards Russia is contradictory. Trump claimed he was tougher on Russia than anybody and has some supporting evidence, including ejecting Russian diplomats in response to the poisoning of the Russian double agent Sergei Skripal in Salisbury.
Key moments from Trump and May's joint press conference – video
But it is also clear that Trump craves a different relationship with Moscow, predicting that the Putin meeting may be easier than any he held with his actual allies in Britain or Brussels. Over the past two days, he has repeatedly said Putin is not his friend, but his competitor, but it is clear it is his aspiration to strike up such a friendship and is prepared to make concessions to achieve this.


The big prize is a revised nuclear arms treaty. Trump spoke of substantially reducing or even getting rid of nuclear weapons, adding it was a subject he would certainly bring up with Putin. “The proliferation is a tremendous, I mean to me, it’s the biggest problem in the world, nuclear weapons, biggest problem in the world.”
He also hinted he might acknowledge Russia’s claim to Crimea, pointing to the investment Putin has made. At Nato, he also said he was open to stopping Nato military exercises in the Baltic states, a request Putin is likely to make.
The terms for the withdrawal of 2,000 American troops still in Syria, including any matching requirement demanded by Israel for the withdrawal of Iranian backed troops, is also another concern of European diplomats struggling to understand Trump’s Syria policy.
One British official insists even now it will be self-defeating to play up the threat Trump poses to the transatlantic alliance. “He is going to come in hard on anything that has dollar signs attached to them, like troops or burden sharing. But one issue does not necessarily have a read across to another”.
But never has Britain’s pragmatic approach to diplomacy been so sorely tested.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tish-diplomacy

LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.

Trump takes war on 'fake news' to UK – and tells towering, easily debunked lies
The US president’s attacks on CNN and the Sun were dismal, but they stayed true to his well-honed communications strategy.
Donald Trump took his war against “fake news” to the UK on Friday, using the term as a means to row back on his criticisms of the British prime minister in an interview with the Sun, and to refuse once again to take a question from CNN at a press conference.


“CNN is fake news, I don’t take questions from CNN,” Trump said, calling on Fox News instead.


The remarks look spontaneous, but they might also be viewed as a Trump masterclass in a set of communication tactics traditionally shunned by western democracies.


Blunt and rude, the attack on one of the US’s biggest mainstream news outlets shocked many British viewers unaccustomed to such conduct by a head of state, especially an American, especially in the setting of a press conference with their prime minister, Theresa May.





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For many American viewers inured to Trump’s hostility toward the media, however, there was another element of the press conference that was equally disturbing: the unmistakable signs that Trump had once again exercised his ability to steer a conversation through simple repetition of whatever it is he is selling.


Standing next to May, Trump opened the event by saying the interview he had given to the British tabloid newspaper the Sun, in which he criticised May’s handling of Brexit and threatened to kill a prospective US-British trade deal, was “fake news”.


Trump had done so, and the Sun had audio tape to prove it. But for the president, when he uses the term “fake news”, it does not only mean news whose accuracy he questions; it also means any news that is negative for him.


“The Fake News is working overtime,” Trump tweeted in May. “Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?”


Trump’s communications strategy of repeating false accusations while also shifting his position from a stance that he held just moments before, is an exercise in Orwellian doublethink. Witness a statement issued by the Sun after the press conference, in which the paper denied that Trump had branded its interview “fake news”.


Here’s what Trump said on Friday about the Sun’s interview: “Unfortunately, there was a story that was done which was, you know, generally fine, but it didn’t put in what I said about the prime minister, and I said tremendous things, and fortunately we tend to record stories now, so we have it for your enjoyment if you’d like it, but we record when we deal with reporters. It’s called fake news.”





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Here’s the Sun’s statement: “We stand by our reporting and the quotes we used – including those where the president was positive about the prime minister, in both the paper and in our audio – and we’re delighted that the president essentially retracted his original charge against the paper later in the press conference.


“To say the president called us ‘fake news’ with any serious intent is, well … fake news.”


One of the maddening features of Trump’s communications technique is that even as he masquerades as a factchecker, he simultaneously tells towering, easily debunked lies. The May press conference offered up a gem of the genre, when Trump went on a riff he has used before about how he had predicted Britain’s decision to exit the European Union when he opened his golf course at Turnberry in Scotland.


That visit came on 24 June 2016, the day after the British referendum, when the leave victory was already confirmed. One cannot predict something that has already happened.


The sheer dogged efficacy of Trump’s tactic to repeat lies until they come true in the minds of others was illustrated by the declaration on Twitter of Stephanie Grisham, the press secretary for first lady Melania Trump, that she had seen Trump’s prediction – which didn’t happen – with her own eyes. She even claimed to have photos.




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Stephanie - I hate to argue as we were there together. He was NOT at Turnberry on the day before the referendum, as he said at the news conference. He was not there on polling day itself. He was there the day after, on Friday 24th. These are indisputable facts




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Nope. I have photos. I also have a newspaper from the morning after Brexit. I remember sitting in a pub the night before, watching the results come in.


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Ultimately and dismally, there were signs that Trump’s act of letting fly with “fake news” accusations, while brashly denying reality, may be rubbing off on May.


“I said very good things about Theresa May,” Trump said of the interview with the Sun. “ I don’t think they put it in, but that’s all right. I said to Theresa May I wanted to apologize, but she said, ‘Don’t worry, it’s only the press.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tish-diplomacy

^ Once again showing your utter lack of knowledge with regards to anything regarding economics. Yet you claim to have been an Econ professor at an all black college in the US.

Originally Posted by Cujo

LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.

Is it normal to post those long quotes? Do you think the people can't click on a link?

Originally Posted by mark45y

I suggest is to look at the soybean futures market....

I did: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SH20...res?p=SH20.CBT

And how I found out you lied stating…….

Originally Posted by mark45y

1. Soybeans show recovery in 2020.

There was an uptick in 2020 and a little more in 2021, but no way was there a recovery to what the soy bean prices were before trump announced tariffs on Chinese imports.

You are a troll.

The U.S. soy bean farmers will be hurting during 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 because of trump.

fantastic trip to the UK it seems

good work Mr Trump, silly English government need to be told in their face

Soybean futures price are based on investors speculating what the market will do, if you're using it as proof that the US is winning a trade war.....ur an idiot.

It'a crap shoot at best cuz no one knows what the orange clown is gonna do next. One thing is certain is China will wean itself off dependency of US as a major supplier.

Originally Posted by mark45y

Is it normal to post those long quotes? Do you think the people can't click on a link?

Yes newbie it is.
In fact it's considered bad form and lazy just to post the link.
Now fuck off.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

I did: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SH20...res?p=SH20.CBT

And how I found out you lied stating…….



There was an uptick in 2020 and a little more in 2021, but no way was there a recovery to what the soy bean prices were before trump announced tariffs on Chinese imports.

You are a troll.

The U.S. soy bean farmers will be hurting during 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 because of trump.

You think it an uptick I think it is a trend. Certainly note a lie. Difference of opinion. It will be decided soon.

Originally Posted by mark45y

You think it an uptick I think it is a trend. Certainly note a lie. Difference of opinion. It will be decided soon.

Wasn’t even a trend by the volume that was sold. Wasn’t a recovery either you lying troll.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Wasn’t even a trend by the volume that was sold. Wasn’t a recovery either you lying troll.

I believe from October to January, China will have to buy American Soy beans at roughly half of what they purchased last year. I see a positive trend starting in 2020 and am advising my clients to get back into the market with confirmation of that trend. I really don't like being called a lying troll. I think 3 times is enough. I will no longer respond to you.

Originally Posted by mark45y

I believe

Originally Posted by mark45y

China will be hard pressed to find beans for the same price as available from the USA.

China is willing to accept a few bigger bills for the opportunity to stick it to baldy orange cunto you moron.

That's why they are targeting imports from trumpanzee states.

You call yourself an economist?

What a fucking joke.