President Donald Trump

**Topper** · 23-06-2018, 07:51 PM

I would also like to see Tammy Duckworth in the running.....born abroad, has a great record, a military veteran and I handicapped person, but I'm not sure about the rules for her being VP.

**Davis Knowlton** · 23-06-2018, 08:10 PM

^No go. Same rules as President. Must be natural born American......possibly one day they will determine what that means, but not without going to court.

**raycarey** · 23-06-2018, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Eight years of Biden

biden will be 78 in november 2020....and therefore 86 in 2028.

joe's great...he should have run in 2016....but america doesn't need an octogenarian in the oval office.

**Topper** · 23-06-2018, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

No go. Same rules as President. Must be natural born American......possibly one day they will determine what that means, but not without going to court.

I read that she's considered native born because her father was an American, like Obama'a mom....

Imagine, a foreign born handicapped war veteran campaigning against trump ..... that would be cool.

**Topper** · 23-06-2018, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

biden will be 78 in november 2020....and therefore 86 in 2028.

I didn't realize that....America is fucked....

**Davis Knowlton** · 23-06-2018, 08:21 PM

^^She is an American citizen by birth, but not native born as she was born in Thailand. It's a law that should not be on the books, but one that has not yet been challenged. Obama was born of one American parent, but in the US.

**raycarey** · 23-06-2018, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

I read that she's considered native born because her father was an American, like Obama'a mom....

she's eligible to run...just like ted cruz even though he as born in canada.

**raycarey** · 23-06-2018, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

not native born as she was born in Thailand

while SCOTUS hasn't weighed in, most agree that since she was born an american citizen she is eligible to run for POTUS.

**Maanaam** · 23-06-2018, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

she's considered native born because her father was an American, like Obama'a mom

But Obama was born in the US.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Imagine, a foreign born handicapped war veteran campaigning against trump ..... that would be cool.

Yeah, cool insofar as those qualities go in a race against Trump and the spectator sport it would provide, but is she really presidential material? I don't think so. Fighting for your country and losing your legs is just as emotive and grandstand-worthy as Trump's CV of being rich and a TV personality.
Sure it may get her the votes, but is she president material???

**Davis Knowlton** · 23-06-2018, 08:29 PM

^^As I said, it's an antiquated law no longer relevant. But, it's still out there. As you said, it will take the Supreme Court to finally make a ruling. And that is long overdue.

Even stranger is that the cause of a person's birth abroad is deemed to be irrelevant. My sister was born in France while my father was a US Army officer on active duty there with an American wife. Even though he was serving abroad on USG orders, rule still applies. Thus my kids, born in the Philippines while I was on USG assignment, are also ineligible.

**raycarey** · 23-06-2018, 10:45 PM

there are only two types of US citizens.....natural born and naturalized.

tammy duckworth, ted cruz, your sister, your kids....all natural born.

**uncle junior** · 23-06-2018, 10:55 PM

^there are 4 or 5 categories of citizenship

**Mandaloopy** · 24-06-2018, 04:28 AM

Another brain dead Trumpanzee

**Davis Knowlton** · 24-06-2018, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

there are only two types of US citizens.....natural born and naturalized.

tammy duckworth, ted cruz, your sister, your kids....all natural born.

Agree completely.

**Davis Knowlton** · 24-06-2018, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^there are 4 or 5 categories of citizenship

How do ya figure? You're either born one, or you're a naturalized one, or you're not one.

**raycarey** · 24-06-2018, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^there are 4 or 5 categories of citizenship

in the US?

**Dragonfly** · 24-06-2018, 03:57 PM

Oprah could be a serious candidate

**Davis Knowlton** · 24-06-2018, 04:02 PM

^For what?

**Dragonfly** · 24-06-2018, 04:09 PM

POTUS what else,

**Davis Knowlton** · 24-06-2018, 04:22 PM

^Oh. OK.

**SKkin** · 24-06-2018, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by happynz

^ First time, but FOJ.

The trouble is happy, is that he's absolutely spot on with that one...with the possible exception, in my lifetime, of JFK. My internal jury is still out on that one. The widely held perception and the reality of JFK might have been two different things. In his favor, he was trouble enough that he was taken out with extreme prejudice.

**happynz** · 24-06-2018, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by SKkin

The trouble is happy, is that he's absolutely spot on with that one...

Nah, it's just Jeff spouting more false equivalence.

**SKkin** · 24-06-2018, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by happynz

Nah, it's just Jeff spouting more false equivalence.

Since JFK they have all served the interests of CorpWarGov very nicely...up to and including Trumplestiltskin.

Stand back, drop the cult of personality, ideological and partisan loyalties(and false perceptions thereof) and it becomes very clear.

**mark45y** · 24-06-2018, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by SKkin

Since JFK they have all served the interests of CorpWarGov very nicely...up to and including Trumplestiltskin.

Stand back, drop the cult of personality, ideological and partisan loyalties(and false perceptions thereof) and it becomes very clear.

Ambassador Kennedy got $1 million for the Kennedy campaign coffers from the Chicago Mob, and made his deal for an election day steal. After Bobby Kennedy became Attorney General and began pressing for the deportation of Trafficante, Giancana contacted Ambassador Kennedy. Kennedy demanded 50% of the action of the Cal-Neva Casino in Lake Tahoe, Nevada to keep up his side of the earlier bargain. Fifty percent of the share in Cal-Neva were transferred to singer, Morton Downey, Sr., a crony and straw man for Joe Kennedy.

Maybe strike Kennedy from your list of good guys. Go back a little further.

Roger Stone: The Stone Zone

**uncle junior** · 24-06-2018, 09:30 PM

^FO with the jfk bs

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