Thread: President Donald Trump

^ The irony meter just exploded.

Originally Posted by Slick

mostly due to a downturn in the gambling industry, not his personal management of the properties & business

Yeah, cos there was a whole raft of casino closures and bankruptcies at that time.

Oh wait no there wasn't. Must've been Trump's personal management of the properties & business then. Nice attempt at retrospective Trump Turd Polishing though.

His lies, his petulant behavior, his own businesses... Is there anything that you do actually hold him responsible and accountable for?

Originally Posted by longway

Originally Posted by elche

Cuckoo

All your posts can be down to this one word.

...





Again I'd just like to point out that longway was a proponent of the whole Comet Ping Pong thing and basically any conspiracy theory - no matter how patently ridiculous - surrounding Clinton.

The fact that he then turns around and calls someone else cuckoo... Well, it shows how much weight, consideration and gravitas should be given to his opinions.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Slick

mostly due to a downturn in the gambling industry, not his personal management of the properties & business

Yeah, cos there was a whole raft of casino closures and bankruptcies at that time.

Oh wait no there wasn't. Must've been Trump's personal management of the properties & business then. Nice attempt at retrospective Trump Turd Polishing though.

His lies, his petulant behavior, his own businesses... Is there anything that you do actually hold him responsible and accountable for?

Plenty, but HES BEEN BANKRUPT 4 TIMES isn't one of them, and its certainly waaaaaay out in left field of the actual context of it all.

Originally Posted by Slick

Plenty, but HES BEEN BANKRUPT 4 TIMES isn't one of them, and its certainly waaaaaay out in left field of the actual context of it all.

OK, but your own link shows that he was, in fact, responsible - to the tune of $900 million in personal liabilities for the first one - and a direct result of his management.

The larger point is that he sells himself as a mega-successful and awesome businessman. The reality - as it always is with Trump - is quite different.

I remember Fortune looked at it and concluded that if he'd invested his inherited wealth in simple index funds then he would be approx. $10 billion better off than he (allegedly) is now.

On another note, this: "He’s written a lot of books about business. They all seem to end at Chapter 11", is pretty funny.

Originally Posted by Slick

6 of his companies have

Smh

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

OK, but your own link shows that he was, in fact, responsible - to the tune of $900 million in personal liabilities for the first one

He had to sell off his yacht during that one. To try to divorce Drumpf from responsibility for these bankruptcies is absurd. Just shows the right will twist any thing to put lipstick on their pig.

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Slick

mostly due to a downturn in the gambling industry, not his personal management of the properties & business

Yeah, cos there was a whole raft of casino closures and bankruptcies at that time.

Oh wait no there wasn't. Must've been Trump's personal management of the properties & business then. Nice attempt at retrospective Trump Turd Polishing though.

His lies, his petulant behavior, his own businesses... Is there anything that you do actually hold him responsible and accountable for?

Plenty, but HES BEEN BANKRUPT 4 TIMES isn't one of them, and its certainly waaaaaay out in left field of the actual context of it all.

Quoting PolitiFact are we? How ironic of you. I thought that BreitFart, InfoWars and Fox were the only credible sources of information for the "deep state" conspiracy theorists -Trump's uneducated base - like yourself? And all others were fake news outlets? Or is that only when it fits your story line? Your "truths", as you like to frequently say yourself, have now gone from opaque to muddy.

Btw, keep your tin foil hat on if you want but seek medical help for your delusions and hate. Schizophrenia is a serious mental illness that needs treatment.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Slick

Plenty, but HES BEEN BANKRUPT 4 TIMES isn't one of them, and its certainly waaaaaay out in left field of the actual context of it all.

OK, but your own link shows that he was, in fact, responsible - to the tune of $900 million in personal liabilities for the first one - and a direct result of his management.

The larger point is that he sells himself as a mega-successful and awesome businessman. The reality - as it always is with Trump - is quite different.

I remember Fortune looked at it and concluded that if he'd invested his inherited wealth in simple index funds then he would be approx. $10 billion better off than he (allegedly) is now.

On another note, this: "He’s written a lot of books about business. They all seem to end at Chapter 11", is pretty funny.

He still hasn't personally been bankrupt like you hysterical dorks keep banging on about.

And that Fortune piece? All that was debunked ages ago as false. Its not 'just a fortune piece' its a mix & match media click-bait piece.

"Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion. The National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have $8 billion."

Our ruling

Occupy Democrats shared an image that said if Trump had taken the money he got from his father and simply put it in a fund that tracked the S&P 500, he’d have $8 billion today. While it's true that Trump got a leg up from his father on the order of many tens of millions of dollars, this specific claim suffers from a key flaw.

The only way to hit the $8 billion mark is to start with $200 million in 1982, and it's wrong to say that was Trump's father's money. While the father's business put Trump on the path to have $200 million in 1982, Trump himself had been running the company for eight years.

We rate this claim False.

Occupy Democrats graphic oversimplifies Trump's inheritance | PunditFact

Originally Posted by elche

Quoting PolitiFact are we? How ironic of you. I thought that BreitFart, InfoWars and Fox were the only credible sources of information for the "deep state" conspiracy theorists -Trump's uneducated base - like yourself? And all others were fake news outlets? Or is that only when it fits your story line? Your "truths", as you like to frequently say yourself, have now gone from opaque to muddy.

Btw, keep your tin foil hat on if you want but seek medical help for your delusions and hate. Schizophrenia is a serious mental illness that needs treatment.

Originally Posted by Slick

He still hasn't personally been bankrupt like you hysterical dorks keep banging on about.

You just keep splitting those hairs and trying to magic away his involvement then.

If, at any time, you'd like to take a break from doing so however, please feel free to point out where I've ever said he was personally bankrupt. Or anything of the sort. Ever.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He had to sell off his yacht during that one. To try to divorce Drumpf from responsibility for these bankruptcies is absurd. Just shows the right will twist any thing to put lipstick on their pig.

And his airline.

Bro, as much as you don't like it and think this is just a Trump thing, its not. Large businesses and corporations do shit like this all the time. Chapter 11 is included in any business plan, and it certainly isn't "the right putting lipstick on this pig"

Plenty of other shit to winge about.

Originally Posted by Slick

as much as you don't like it and think this is just a Trump thing, its not.

Where did I ever claim it was just a Trump thing? The only point I see out of it all is that it is pretty clear that he is a shit business man. I could have started out with the same amount of money as he did and just straight played the dow jones IA and made more money than he has made.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I could have started out with the same amount of money as he did and just straight played the dow jones IA and made more money than he has made.

Fake news.

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by bsnub

I could have started out with the same amount of money as he did and just straight played the dow jones IA and made more money than he has made.

Fake news.

Not fake, just unfounded,as nobody knows trump's financial info cuz he won't release his taxes.

Originally Posted by fred flintstone

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by bsnub

I could have started out with the same amount of money as he did and just straight played the dow jones IA and made more money than he has made.

Fake news.

Not fake, just unfounded,as nobody knows trump's financial info cuz he won't release his taxes.

Ok, so literally fake news.

Gotcha.

Originally Posted by Slick

That Ben Garrison and his homoerotic Trump imagery eh!

I have been following this thread and so far kept out of it.
But i just have to say how can anyone with an ounce of intelligence and education think this tosser is good for the US or the world.

Originally Posted by bobo746

But i just have to say how can anyone with an ounce of intelligence and education think this tosser is good for the US or the world.

He isn't, and thats kinda the point.

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by bobo746

But i just have to say how can anyone with an ounce of intelligence and education think this tosser is good for the US or the world.

He isn't, and thats kinda the point.

Is it though...

Originally Posted by Slick

You seem confused.

Do you actually even know what point you're making??

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Again I'd just like to point out that longway was a proponent of the whole Comet Ping Pong thing

like you've said many, many times, before rather than focusing on longway's main point.

anyways, ant.

you love to pick the low-hanging fruit and fair enough as you must be afraid you'll get hurt up on that ladder.

though, since you've mentioned that you don't like debating me because of my posting style,

which poster on this thread (who you disagree with) do you like debating with?

longway?

bsnub didn't answer the question:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

you just don't agree with my point of view, bsnub. that's ok.

though, i'm not sure you would really like it if it were just you, humbert and ant posting on this thread agreeing with each other.

you wouldn't be able to make your valuable contributions like calling me, longway, slick and dragonfly nasty names.

It has nothing to do with that. Your tedious and idiotic posting style and the fact that you are stupid is the main factor.

anyways, which poster on this thread do you like that you debate with because he has a different point of view than you?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by cyrille

Did I just read a post by someone who still believes in 'trickle down' economics?

You did. Right wing clowns like FRT and LW are stupid enough to think that cutting taxes for the rich actually grows the economy and creates jobs. A right wing red herring that the lemmings still swallow.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Applies to both GOP 'trickle-down' plans and FRT's plaintive posts.

it's cute that cyrille tries to join a real discussion in the speakers' corner, rather than his usual posts just gossiping about posters.

it's also good that ant wishes to discuss a major point that i brought up in my post rather than just sitting under the tree, picking low-hanging fruit, as it were.

bsnub probably didn't even graduate from high school, so just using the word "economics" is an accomplishment for him.

anyways, this was my post:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

tax cuts and deregulation, of course, are good for the economy and can help ensure re-election.

and bannon is keeping his eye on the voters who put trump in office.

smart:

Quote:
Bannon Wants Higher Taxes On Top Earners | The Daily Caller

White House adviser Steve Bannon is pushing for a tax hike on the top income bracket in order to balance massive middle and working class tax cuts and a steep reduction in the corporate rate.

bsnub, ant and cyrille: trickle down economics is just cutting taxes for the rich and thinking the benefits will trickle down.

bannon is suggesting tax cuts for the middle and working class and a tax hike for the upper class.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

tax cuts and deregulation, of course, are good for the economy and can help ensure re-election.

anyways, it's common sense that tax cuts and deregulation are good for the economy. it's just a matter of how high taxes and regulations should be to benefit society.

example: a sukhumvit soi in bangkok with street vendors who don't have to pay bribes (taxes) to the cops is going to have more activity than another soi, right?

anyways, guess cyrille and ant were sleeping during their uni econ 101 class.

work on those reading comprehension skills, too, boys.

Originally Posted by Slick

Fake news.

Bullshit....

Donald Trump Would Be Richer If He’d Have Invested in Index Funds



Donald Trump Would Be Richer If He Had Invested in Index Funds | Fortune.com