Thread: President Donald Trump

a couple of (poorly educated and informed) posters on these threads have repeatedly maligned the new york times and the washington post over the last few months.

well, guess who trump personally called when it was decided to pull the bill?

that's right.....the new york times and the washington post.


even before ryan had a chance to inform the republican caucus, trump was on the phone the NYT and WP.


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TRUMP GOES ZERO FOR ONE in Washington -- COSTA, PARKER and RUCKER with a BRUTAL headline: ?The closer? The inside story of how Trump tried -- and failed? -- GOLDMACHER and DAWSEY: Trump ?gets TAMED? by DC - POLITICO

Originally Posted by raycarey

a couple of (poorly educated and informed) posters on these threads have repeatedly maligned the new york times and the washington post over the last few months.

well, guess who trump personally called when it was decided to pull the bill.

the new york times and the washington post.

even before ryan had a chance to inform the republican caucus, trump was on the phone the NYT and WP.

I'm wondering how Fox News feels now that the president, such that he is, gives the good stuff to fake news organizations...

Man Trumpf is really fulfilling his campaign promises.

^^
"To paraphrase an old Barney Frank line, asking the Republicans to govern is like asking Frank to judge the Miss America contest — “If your heart’s not in it, you don’t do a very good job.”

...I warned you the article was entertaining...

Have to wonder if in the tiny minds of the great unwashed there isn't a little voice saying, "Bubba, What the fuck have ya'll done?"

And there's this....

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/174...EBRip.x264-FUM[ettv]

One of the best Real Time's ever.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Have to wonder if in the tiny minds of the great unwashed there isn't a little voice saying, "Bubba, What the fuck have ya'll done?"

You must be talking about December 23 1913 when Congress passed the Federal Reserve act..

Sunday here and this is the first day of Trump's presidency where there is no news story on something stupid he either did, tweeted, or said. The administration must be licking their wounds in a hole somewhere.

Originally Posted by thailazer

Sunday here and this is the first day of Trump's presidency where there is no news story on something stupid he either did, tweeted, or said. The administration must be licking their wounds in a hole somewhere.

The orange-faced wanker is off playing golf again.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You must be talking about December 23 1913 when Congress passed the Federal Reserve act..

The real damage is done...

Originally Posted by bsnub

Man Trumpf is really fulfilling his campaign promises.

Yeah, including making people sick of winning.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Yeah, including making people sick of winning.

As idiotic as he is, he was still the right choice. To date, still better than HRC. I said it months ago even if he gets absolutely nothing passed, and nothing changes, its still better than HRC, and that still stands today.

President estimated Germany’s underspend on alliance over the past 12 years, then added interest

Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.

While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.

But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.

Mr Trump reportedly instructed aides to calculate how much German spending fell below two per cent over the past 12 years, then added interest.

Estimates suggest the total came to £300bn, with official figures citing the shortfall to be around £250bn plus £50bn in interest added on.

The Times quoted a German government minister as saying the move was “outrageous”.

The unnamed minister said: “The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the Chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations.”

And the paper quoted a source close to Mrs Merkel saying she has “ignored the provocation”.

The bill follows a disastrous meeting between the pair earlier this month, characterised by Mr Trump’s refusal to shake his peer’s hand.

A day after the meeting, Mr Trump tweeted: “Despite what you have heard from the FAKE NEWS, I had a GREAT meeting with the Chancellor Angela Merkel.

“Nevertheless, Germany owes ... vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!”

In response to the claims, German defence minister Ursula Von der Leyen rejected the notion the European nation owed the US or Nato.

She issued a statement saying: “There is no debt account at Nato.

“Defence spending also goes into UN peacekeeping missions, into our European missions and into our contribution to the fight against [Isis] terrorism.”

Her comments were backed by Ivo Daalder, permanent representative to Nato from 2009 to 2013 under the Obama administration, who queried the President’s understanding of the organisation.

He tweeted: “Sorry Mr President, that’s not how Nato works. The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending Nato.

“This is not a financial transaction, where Nato countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.”

Mr Trump has repeatedly voiced his criticism over member payments to Nato, throwing doubt on the future role of the US in the organisation.

He has singled out a number of Nato countries, including Germany, over their defence contributions claiming the US has been forced to bear the brunt and pick up the tab.

Donald Trump printed out made-up £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel | The Independent

Originally Posted by Slick

I said it months ago even if he gets absolutely nothing passed, and nothing changes, its still better than HRC, and that still stands today.

...not much evolution in trailer park thinking then...

Originally Posted by SKkin

Originally Posted by "DrB0b"

One of them is owned by a bankrupt Syrian businessman and the other by the National Trust. What's your point?

I was referring more to who the places were originally built for. I'm pretty sure their heirs aren't slumming it currently.

So why did you use the present tense? Why don't you just say Jews? Why do you feel the need to be sly about it?

Originally Posted by tomcat

not much evolution in trailer park thinking then...

You think in over 7,000 posts in this thread is a single person willing to give even a ten-thousandth of an inch of understanding either way?

Its always 'idiot' 'racist' 'bigot' 'trailer park' 'redneck' ad neauseum....

It was raised by our resident tefling parrot Ray the other day about how 'trump supporters have vanished from this thread' (or some such shit) and I can tell ya in my case its not because I'm secretly regretting my decision.

One or 2 posts in here typically relates to a red or 2 from a few of the resident libtard caricatures and hostile replies abound. Its like that everywhere that I post, not just this forum. Its like that in the news and in real life in the states apparently as well.

Its gets boring and several here seem to be taking it as some kind of 'win' for 'their side' but thats not a 'win' at all and I think we will see in the 2018 midterm elections what all this hostility and ass-showing has done because at the end of the day, the country really is polarized most people are firm in their positions.

The Republicans may not have their shit together at all, but if you look around at the Democrats, they haven't changed a thing and are still riding the same ole shit stories over and over again. They haven't changed a bit either, and if anything they have stooped to the low-blow level that they themselves accuse Republicans of.

Im a bit disappointed so far with the cheeto, but again, still plenty of good left. Im more surprised at how slanderous the media and the lefties are at the current time.

Anyway over to you gals to flip and spin what I typed into something totally out of context.

Originally Posted by Slick

You think in over 7,000 posts in this thread is a single person willing to give even a ten-thousandth of an inch of understanding either way?

Its always 'idiot' 'racist' 'bigot' 'trailer park' 'redneck' ad neauseum....

It was raised by our resident tefling parrot Ray the other day about how 'trump supporters have vanished from this thread' (or some such shit) and I can tell ya in my case its not because I'm secretly regretting my decision.

One or 2 posts in here typically relates to a red or 2 from a few of the resident libtard caricatures and hostile replies abound. Its like that everywhere that I post, not just this forum. Its like that in the news and in real life in the states apparently as well.

Its gets boring and several here seem to be taking it as some kind of 'win' for 'their side' but thats not a 'win' at all and I think we will see in the 2018 midterm elections what all this hostility and ass-showing has done because at the end of the day, the country really is polarized most people are firm in their positions.

The Republicans may not have their shit together at all, but if you look around at the Democrats, they haven't changed a thing and are still riding the same ole shit stories over and over again. They haven't changed a bit either, and if anything they have stooped to the low-blow level that they themselves accuse Republicans of.

Im a bit disappointed so far with the cheeto, but again, still plenty of good left. Im more surprised at how slanderous the media and the lefties are at the current time.

Anyway over to you gals to flip and spin what I typed into something totally out of context.

...so:

Originally Posted by tomcat

not much evolution in trailer park thinking then

Originally Posted by Slick

One or 2 posts in here typically relates to a red or 2 from a few of the resident libtard caricatures and hostile replies abound. Its like that everywhere that I post, not just this forum. Its like that in the news and in real life in the states apparently as well.

...*sniff* I understand your pain...

Originally Posted by tomcat

I understand your pain...

See what I mean?

I wholeheartedly believe that this is beneficial to conservatives and will do more harm to liberal agenda than the ridiculousness of the agenda itself.

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Yeah, including making people sick of winning.

As idiotic as he is, he was still the right choice. To date, still better than HRC. I said it months ago even if he gets absolutely nothing passed, and nothing changes, its still better than HRC, and that still stands today.

OK, I take your point, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve piles of scorn, as idiotic as he is.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

OK, I take your point, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve piles of scorn, as idiotic as he is.

Well there is like 7000 posts of it so far. I don't think anything will change.

Originally Posted by Slick

I don't think anything will change

...be the change, Slick ma man, BE the change!...raise your knuckles from the floor and shed the scales from your eyes: your little vote in Buttcrack, Fla helped a minority elect President Occupant...rethink, reform, reappraise and vote with the country in mind rather than your misogynist delusions...most have given up on you, but I believe that you and Jebus will find the way!




...amen...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...be the change, Slick ma man, BE the change!...raise your knuckles from the floor and shed the scales from your eyes: your little vote in Buttcrack, Fla helped a minority elect President Occupant...rethink, reform, reappraise and vote with the country in mind rather than your misogynist delusions...most have given up on you, but I believe that you and Jebus will find the way!

What the fuck are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Slick

President estimated Germany’s underspend on alliance over the past 12 years, then added interest

Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.

While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.

But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.

Mr Trump reportedly instructed aides to calculate how much German spending fell below two per cent over the past 12 years, then added interest.

Estimates suggest the total came to £300bn, with official figures citing the shortfall to be around £250bn plus £50bn in interest added on.

The Times quoted a German government minister as saying the move was “outrageous”.

The unnamed minister said: “The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the Chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations.”

And the paper quoted a source close to Mrs Merkel saying she has “ignored the provocation”.

The bill follows a disastrous meeting between the pair earlier this month, characterised by Mr Trump’s refusal to shake his peer’s hand.

A day after the meeting, Mr Trump tweeted: “Despite what you have heard from the FAKE NEWS, I had a GREAT meeting with the Chancellor Angela Merkel.

“Nevertheless, Germany owes ... vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!”

In response to the claims, German defence minister Ursula Von der Leyen rejected the notion the European nation owed the US or Nato.

She issued a statement saying: “There is no debt account at Nato.

“Defence spending also goes into UN peacekeeping missions, into our European missions and into our contribution to the fight against [Isis] terrorism.”

Her comments were backed by Ivo Daalder, permanent representative to Nato from 2009 to 2013 under the Obama administration, who queried the President’s understanding of the organisation.

He tweeted: “Sorry Mr President, that’s not how Nato works. The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending Nato.

“This is not a financial transaction, where Nato countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.”

Mr Trump has repeatedly voiced his criticism over member payments to Nato, throwing doubt on the future role of the US in the organisation.

He has singled out a number of Nato countries, including Germany, over their defence contributions claiming the US has been forced to bear the brunt and pick up the tab.

Donald Trump printed out made-up £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel | The Independent

The abrupt billing strategy has been dismissed by experts, including the US's former NATO representative Ivo Daalder.
"Sorry, Mr. President, that’s not how NATO works. The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending NATO."

Trump is humiliating himself daily. I'd love to see a copy of the invoice and how he set it out.

The handing of the invoice was during the meeting which afterwards had the photoshoot where Trump snubbed Merkel and refused to shake hands with her. I'm guessing she put him in his place during the meeting, perhaps over the silly invoice, and, childlike egoist that he is, he was sulking.


The guy has no idea how to lead, to run a country, or how to carry out diplomatic relations. No idea whatsoever.