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    Propaganda being reported as news. NYTimes article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/world/americas/isis-online-recruiting-american.html?_r=1&module=ArrowsNav&contentCollect ion=Americas&action=keypress®ion=FixedLeft&pgtype= article
    ISIS and the Lonely Young American By RUKMINI CALLIMACHIJUNE 27, 2015


    I am not going to post the entire article here you can click the link if you want to. What I am going to post are parts of the article that I found to be interesting in a "how bad has the mainstream media gotten" kind of way. I am not a supporter of Islam or any other religion for that matter and I am also not a supporter of bad reporting.


    I call B.S. on this entire article. Nothing can be verified. It reads like Anti Islam pro Christianity propaganda to me.


    As a Christian, Alex presented the need for an extra step in the process. Yet she helped close the gap herself: Trying to explain the attraction, she said she had already been drawn to the idea of living a faith more fully.

    Already a budding fundamentalist.

    To get to Alex’s house from the nearest town, visitors turn off at a trailer park and drive for a mile past wide, irrigated fields of wheat and alfalfa.

    Says a lot right there.

    She has lived with her grandparents for almost all her life: When she was 11 months old, her mother, struggling with drug addiction, lost custody of her. Her therapist says that fetal alcohol syndrome, which has left Alex with tremors in her hands, has also contributed to a persistent lack of maturity and poor judgment.

    So she is semi-retarded.

    After dropping out of college last year, she was earning $300 a month babysitting two days a week and teaching Sunday school for children at her church on weekends.

    Low I.Q. low wage worker, yet teaches Sunday school? She shouldn’t be allowed to teach children anything including Religion.

    The searing image of the young man kneeling as the knife was lifted to his throat stayed with her. Riveted by the killing, and struck by a horrified curiosity, she logged on to Twitter to see if she could learn more.

    This entire paragraph smells of journalistic embellishment to me.

    She found herself shocked again, this time by the fact that people who openly identified as belonging to the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, took the time to politely answer her questions.

    Polite savage terrorists? Who would have thought?

    “did you think of what i said aboyt islam,” he asked, his messages sprinkled with typos.

    Got to point out that these people are not very intelligent or possibly that they don’t use spell check.

    She occasionally pushed back, questioning how the jihadists could justify beheadings. But she had already developed deep doubts about the Islamic State’s portrayal in the media as brutal killers.“I knew that what people were saying about them wasn’t true,” she said.

    Free thought from an easily swayed semi-retard?

    Her Skype discussions had even uncovered an unexpected bit of common ground with Hamad, who seemed to know a lot about the Bible.

    How could these savages possibly know about the Holy Bible?

    The next time she attended service, Alex did not stand when the pastor invited the congregation to take communion.

    Oh’ The horror!

    After dropping out of college, Alex worked for a year at a day-care center, only to resign after a disagreement with her manager. She quit a call-center training program after three weeks, she said, unable to handle angry calls from customers.

    Sounds like a real winner.

    One pamphlet hewed to the most extreme interpretations of Islam, laying out “The Rights and Duties of Women.” Those included unquestioning acceptance of polygamy, and warned that daughters should expect to receive only half the inheritance of sons.

    How UN-American, must be evil.

    She kept her hijab in the back seat of her truck, pulling it over her frizzy red hair only when out of sight of her house.

    Have to point out how non middle eastern she looks. “The terrorists could be anyone!” "Be afraid."

    The only person who knew of her conversion was her cousin, who was starting to flirt with the idea herself. Together they went to the Dollar Store and bought two toilet plungers. In a park, they put on their head scarves and used the handles to spar in an imaginary sword fight.

    Cousin sounds like a real winner as well.

    Online, she discovered that there was a mosque near her home. When Faisal looked it up, though, he learned that the mosque’s steering committee had posted a statement disavowing the Islamic State. He dissuaded her from going, saying it was a government-infiltrated mosque, she said.

    Probably true.

    The administrator of the account is accused of having played a role in the radicalization of a 15-year-old English girl who left to join ISIS earlier this year, according to media reports.

    “ISIS, taking over the world one 15 year old girl at a time.”

    It was around then that Alex began suspecting that Faisal was speaking with other women, too. He acknowledged it, but shrugged it off: “My wife says shes fine with me & my female twitter sisters as long as i don’t run off to syria with them ha ha ha.”
    It was only then that Alex searched his name on Google, she said.

    The possibility that he was somehow cheating on her was what made her check him out? Really? Nothing else made her question his sincerity?

    In 1995, the police raided Mr. Mostafa’s home, finding firearms, bullets, shotgun cartridges, timers and explosives, according to the court minutes. Initially accused of plotting a terrorist attack, he received a four-year sentence for firearms possession, after arguing that the explosives were part of his Ph.D. research at Manchester Polytechnic on the corrosion inside tin cans.

    Only 4 years for being a “Terrorist”.

    He was arrested a second time in 2000, along with another Bangladeshi immigrant. In a trash bag left outside a building where the two had met, investigators found plastic gloves, a kitchen scale and traces of the explosive HMTD, according to news reports. On Mr. Mostafa’s computer, they found a document titled “Mujahedin Explosives Handbook.”
    While his co-defendant received a 20-year sentence for plotting a large-scale explosion, Faisal Mostafa was acquitted.

    He was acquitted here!

    On March 25, 2009, Mr. Mostafa was arrested during a trip back to Bangladesh after the police raided the orphanage run by his charity. According to the court record, investigators determined he had been running a bomb-making factory, after finding explosives and a library of jihadist literature. “It has been proven by the evidence and testimonies that Faisal Mostafa and 11 others,” the court proceeding said, “had chalked out a blueprint for grooming each child as a militant.”
    He was repatriated to Britain in 2010 after a nearly one-year detention in Bangladesh.

    Another year in Bangladesh and he is a free man in Britain. Why is he a free man?

    She continued: “What are you thinking? We have raised her 24 years to be a faithful Christian woman. Not to be brain washed by you.”

    “Yeah she is already brainwashed by Christianity you can’t have her.”

    Afterward, Alex agreed to hand over the passwords to her Twitter and email accounts. Her grandmother changed them to prevent her from using them. Federal Bureau of Investigation agents came to the house and downloaded her electronic communication history after Alex’s family contacted the agency. An F.B.I. official at state headquarters would not discuss details of the case.
    In an email to the family, one of the agents later wrote that no one wanted “to see her get caught up in any of the dangers that she has been extremely close to in the past.” But he acknowledged that Alex was also under scrutiny, saying the agency’s goal was not just to keep her safe, “but also the rest of the country safe as well.”

    This is the part of the article where they imply that if you make contact with these “terrorists” that the spooks and boogeymen will be watching you and that somehow you have committed a crime.

    Waiting until her grandparents were out clamming on a windy beach on the Washington coast, Alex logged into Skype, the one account her family had forgotten to shut down.

    How convenient. Sounds like a cheesy Hollywood flick.

    Faisal wrote her right away, and months later they are still exchanging messages.
    “I told her I would not communicate with you,” he wrote. “But I lied.”

    Article ends by punctuating that they are bad people in case you haven’t figured it out yet.
    I'm not saying it was Aliens, but it was Aliens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    Ph.D. research at Manchester Polytechnic
    ?? is that a smeggles PhD ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69 View Post
    [B]I am not going to post the entire article here you can click the link if you want to. What I am going to post are parts of the article that I found to be interesting in a "how bad has the mainstream media gotten" kind of way. I am not a supporter of Islam or any other religion for that matter and I am also not a supporter of bad reporting.


    I call B.S. on this entire article. Nothing can be verified. It reads like Anti Islam pro Christianity propaganda to me.
    You sound surprised.

    Even the BBC still keeps trying to suggest its impartial, and has minions wheeled to say that with a straight face.

    All news is propaganda, and professional trolling.

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    I have noticed a certain style of writing on some US 'news' sites. It reminds me more of the Readers Digest than news reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    "how bad has the mainstream media gotten"
    OOwned by 5 mega corporations all pumping out glibalist propaganda to promote bankster piracy and corporate wars, and keeps the masses as dumb as pigshit (like harry) and scared so that they do not complain when all their rights are removed from them and replaced with shackles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    "how bad has the mainstream media gotten"
    OOwned by 5 mega corporations all pumping out glibalist propaganda to promote bankster piracy and corporate wars, and keeps the masses as dumb as pigshit (like harry) and scared so that they do not complain when all their rights are removed from them and replaced with shackles.
    You really are a Rebel without a Clue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    "how bad has the mainstream media gotten"
    OOwned by 5 mega corporations all pumping out glibalist propaganda to promote bankster piracy and corporate wars, and keeps the masses as dumb as pigshit (like harry) and scared so that they do not complain when all their rights are removed from them and replaced with shackles.
    You really are a Rebel without a Clue.

    Actually he has a clue. He's on the right track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    "how bad has the mainstream media gotten"
    OOwned by 5 mega corporations all pumping out glibalist propaganda to promote bankster piracy and corporate wars, and keeps the masses as dumb as pigshit (like harry) and scared so that they do not complain when all their rights are removed from them and replaced with shackles.
    You really are a Rebel without a Clue.

    Actually he has a clue. He's on the right track.
    Yeah, well you're the c*u*n*t that PM'ed me to tell me how to post Youtube videos without annoying Booners, so you can fuck right off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    "how bad has the mainstream media gotten"
    OOwned by 5 mega corporations all pumping out glibalist propaganda to promote bankster piracy and corporate wars, and keeps the masses as dumb as pigshit (like harry) and scared so that they do not complain when all their rights are removed from them and replaced with shackles.
    You really are a Rebel without a Clue.

    Actually he has a clue. He's on the right track.
    Yeah, well you're the c*u*n*t that PM'ed me to tell me how to post Youtube videos without annoying Booners, so you can fuck right off.

    Ahhh HArrydipshit shown again to know nothing. What a waste of oxygen you really are.




    So Harrydipshit - either you can claim to have cog·ni·tive dis·so·nance because you are so scared of admitting the truth about the world, or you are simply a dipshit. I would tend to hedge my bets that you are merely a dipshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    "how bad has the mainstream media gotten"
    OOwned by 5 mega corporations all pumping out glibalist propaganda to promote bankster piracy and corporate wars, and keeps the masses as dumb as pigshit (like harry) and scared so that they do not complain when all their rights are removed from them and replaced with shackles.
    You really are a Rebel without a Clue.

    Actually he has a clue. He's on the right track.
    Yeah, well you're the c*u*n*t that PM'ed me to tell me how to post Youtube videos without annoying Booners, so you can fuck right off.

    Christ almighty, just trying to help. How was I to know you only do it to annoy Booners.
    And you know despite the fact Booners is the only one to mention it, I'm sure it annoys many other posters. Which might explain all the reds you get.

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    Some people just choose to live along the banks of da' Nile. Which is fine as far as I am concerned as most of this stuff is better off not being known.

    To know how fucked this world really is and understand that you cannot change it one bit is much worse than ignorance IMO.

    I almost wish I could live in Andy Griffiths Mayberry or some 1950's sitcom version of reality like some posters here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    It reminds me more of the Readers Digest than news reporting.
    Always had a copy of Readers Digest on the toilet tank. Always good to read crap when taking one.

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