Jeb Bush v. Hillary Clinton: the perfectly Illustrative Election

[bsnub]

Jeb Bush yesterday strongly suggested he was running for President in 2016. If he wins the GOP nomination, it is highly likely that his opponent for the presidency would be Hillary Clinton.

Having someone who is the brother of one former president and the son of another run against the wife of still another former president would be sweetly illustrative of all sorts of degraded and illusory aspects of American life, from meritocracy to class mobility. That one of those two families exploited its vast wealth to obtain political power, while the other exploited its political power to obtain vast wealth, makes it more illustrative still: of the virtually complete merger between political and economic power, of the fundamentally oligarchical framework that drives American political life.

Then there are their similar constituencies: what Politico termed “money men” instantly celebrated Jeb Bush’s likely candidacy, while the same publication noted just last month how Wall Street has long been unable to contain its collective glee over a likely Hillary Clinton presidency. The two ruling families have, unsurprisingly, developed a movingly warm relationship befitting their position: the matriarch of the Bush family (former First Lady Barbara) has described the Clinton patriarch (former President Bill) as a virtual family member, noting that her son, George W., affectionately calls his predecessor “my brother by another mother.”

If this happens, the 2016 election would vividly underscore how the American political class functions: by dynasty, plutocracy, fundamental alignment of interests masquerading as deep ideological divisions, and political power translating into vast private wealth and back again. The educative value would be undeniable: somewhat like how the torture report did, it would rub everyone’s noses in exactly those truths they are most eager to avoid acknowledging.

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[pseudolus]

Did you ever expect anything different Snubb?

[baldrick]

A mexican would freak them all out

[thaimeme]

Did you ever expect anything different Snubb?

Nothing for the world to look forward to...

Same as it always is.
The Establishment vs. The Establishment.

[Jesus Jones]

Different horses. Same stable!

[thaimeme]

Different horses. Same stable!

...for quite some time now.

[pseudolus]

Ahh but it gives the morons something to flag waive about and argue the toss about he said she said.

[slackula]

A mexican would freak them all out

Jeb Bush's wife is Mexican born.

[pseudolus]

A mexican would freak them all out

Jeb Bush's wife is Mexican born.

So the kids are half Mexican half Beelzebub. nice.

[bsnub]

Did you ever expect anything different Snubb?

Not at all. I have known that the US is ruled by a cabal for some time.

[Black Heart]

This thread may have some serious legs.....

[Silverback]

Jeb Bush v. Hillary Clinton: the perfectly Illustrative Election

Mate, are you a little slow?
This is simply another "puppet 1 vs puppet 2"
Do you not see this?
What was it, ritalin?

[buriramboy]

From what I observe no one even seriously tries to break the 2 party stronghold that is American politics so you deserve what you get.

[raycarey]

jeb is going to have serious trouble getting through the early primaries and caucuses this year....the teabagging whack jobs are going to be out in full force voting for the likes of carson, paul and cruz...which is fine with me, because they'll get crushed in the general.

[Black Heart]

From what I observe no one even seriously tries to break the 2 party stronghold that is American politics so you deserve what you get.

The 2-party duopoly is because the system is designed to squeeze out third party.

The two-party duopoly is the system. It's buy design.

[Black Heart]

jeb is going to have serious trouble getting through the early primaries and caucuses this year....the teabagging whack jobs are going to be out in full force voting for the likes of carson, paul and cruz...which is fine with me, because they'll get crushed in the general.

Yeah,

Rand Paul and Cruz would be defeated in a landslide.

[Neo]

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The two-party duopoly is the system. It's buy design.

Yeah.. we bought ours off Reagan

[buriramboy]

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The two-party duopoly is the system. It's buy design.

Yeah.. we bought ours off Reagan

It's taken time but the 2 party monopoly in the UK is slowly being broken, none of the 2 got an overall majority in 2010 and I can't imagine one of them ever getting one again. You go back 50 years and the Tories and Labour would get 90% of the total vote between them, they'll be lucky to get 65% in 2 months time and I doubt over 50% in 2020. Change can happen if the people want and demand it, whether it's the change you personally want is another matter though.

[Neo]

It's taken time but the 2 party monopoly in the UK is slowly being broken

True.

If this happens, the 2016 election would vividly underscore how the American political class functions: by dynasty, plutocracy, fundamental alignment of interests masquerading as deep ideological divisions, and political power translating into vast private wealth and back again.

Politicians the world over use smoke and mirrors to hide their connections, but this is the USA coming out in the open.
They're bi-partisan and proud.

[Neo]

The two ruling families have, unsurprisingly, developed a movingly warm relationship befitting their position: the matriarch of the Bush family (former First Lady Barbara) has described the Clinton patriarch (former President Bill) as a virtual family member, noting that her son, George W., affectionately calls his predecessor “my brother by another mother.”

[buriramboy]

What's happening in the UK though would be a 100 more times difficult to happen in the US as how I understand it and obviously I stand to be corrected not being familiar with US politics is that first of all it is damned hard to even get on the ballot paper then due to the finances available of the Reps and Dems and the year long campaigns for office unless you have millions in the bank for advertising you just don't stand a chance. So basically a closed 2 party system that is supposed to be the model of democracy for the rest of the world to emulate is corrupt as fuk.

[Black Heart]

....the teabagging whack jobs are going to be out in full force voting for the likes of carson, paul and cruz...which is fine with me, because they'll get crushed in the general.

Here is a taste of Carson.

Being gay is a choice because people go to prison and then become gay,

[Black Heart]

Jeb Bush goes Paleo. He's leaning out.

On the hunt for the presidency, Jeb Bush adopts a 'caveman' diet
ReutersBy By Steve Holland | Reuters

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hunt-presi...095358469.html

[bsnub]

What's happening in the UK though would be a 100 more times difficult to happen in the US as how I understand it and obviously I stand to be corrected not being familiar with US politics is that first of all it is damned hard to even get on the ballot paper then due to the finances available of the Reps and Dems and the year long campaigns for office unless you have millions in the bank for advertising you just don't stand a chance. So basically a closed 2 party system that is supposed to be the model of democracy for the rest of the world to emulate is corrupt as fuk.

That is life in a plutocracy. America was never a democracy.

[Boon Mee]

Who is Kshama Sawant going to vote for, snubbles?