Resistance fighters' attack on Americans foiled.

[mad_dog]

Two white Germans and one ethnic Turk German have been arrested in the final stages of several massive strikes against American military, poltical and imperial targets in occupied Germany. BBC NEWS | Europe | Germany foils 'massive' bomb plot

God willing other groups are complying with God's order to kill the Americans anywhere and at anytime on God's earth. The anniversary of the strikes by the 19 Lions of Islam is coming. We can only hope that more people are planning to cause terror and division amogst the crumbling US empire; the embodiment of evil and the killer of women and children.

[The_Dude]

Hey, Mad Dog.
What crawled up your ass and died? Take it easy pussycat! We might just put you on that list with the women and children.

[Boon Mee]

^^
That's great!
Another success story in the GWOT!

[mad_dog]

^^
That's great!
Another success story in the GWOT!

Yeah and the Germans can do it without reversing hundreds of years of legal process e.g habeas corpus.

[barbaro]

Two white Germans and one ethnic Turk German have been arrested in the final stages of several massive strikes against American military, poltical and imperial targets in occupied Germany. BBC NEWS | Europe | Germany foils 'massive' bomb plot

God willing other groups are complying with God's order to kill the Americans anywhere and at anytime on God's earth. The anniversary of the strikes by the 19 Lions of Islam is coming. We can only hope that more people are planning to cause terror and division amogst the crumbling US empire; the embodiment of evil and the killer of women and children.

I can definitely see why some in the world are targeting American interests overseas.

I do believe, that these plans, attempts, and actual attacks will continue.

Perhaps is the U.S. will withdraw it's political, economic, and military interests to within its borders, these plans will stop.

The U.S. reaps what it sows, when it comes to the last 60 years.

[chinthee]

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

[shehiredahitman]

But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today

The Americans are in it for themselves, personally, not for the benefit of the world.

Bush is a crook, his whole outfit are a bunch of chancers, they have gotten rich on the back of everything they do & soon they will disappear into the sunset, leaving the rest of us mugs behind to clear up the mess.

[Frankenstein]

Just feed us some more TV series with canned laughter and a couple of fast food chains with easily identifiable cartoon character figureheads to go please.

I know you mean well, but there really is no need to express your opinions.

We do appreciate your addictively mindless culture and unhealthy food, but when you start to believe you actually have the ability to think and teach others how to live their lives is when things start to go wrong.

I'll even throw in a baby burger for you to munch on while you consider the deal, how about it?

[chinthee]

But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today

The Americans are in it for themselves, personally, not for the benefit of the world.

Bush is a crook, his whole outfit are a bunch of chancers, they have gotten rich on the back of everything they do & soon they will disappear into the sunset, leaving the rest of us mugs behind to clear up the mess.

Sorry hitman, gonna have to smack your ass on this one. The US involvement if you like, is so deep, the tentacles so pervasive in financial markets, cross-ownerships of corporate interests, political interweavings, that if the US takes its marbles and goes home, really, everyone else suffers. A lot.

We have to find a way to balance this tremendous power with some other factors. China is a rising power. But, they are not on your side. They are on their side. No easy answer my friend.

[AntRobertson]

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

No man, nor nation, is truly an Island.

The US is not alturistic in its motives, it needs the foreign markets as much as they need the US.

An isolationist US would be committing suicide as much as it would be harming others.

[chinthee]

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

No man, nor nation, is truly an Island.

The US is not alturistic in its motives, it needs the foreign markets as much as they need the US.

An isolationist US would be committing suicide as much as it would be harming others.

Agree 100% That's my point.

[barbaro]

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

Chinthee,

I'm with you on the economic points for the most part.

My post was oversimplified, big-time.

By "economic interests" I meant causing problems in foreign countries because of U.S. corporate interests (e.g. Guatemala) but did not mean all FDI or other types of globalization.

Also, America's Economic interests in interlinked and reinforced - by its foreign policies and military.

A lot of harm is done in this.

[AntRobertson]

Agree 100% That's my point.

Apologies then, I misinterpreted what you'd written.

[shehiredahitman]

Sorry hitman, gonna have to smack your ass on this one. The US involvement if you like, is so deep, the tentacles so pervasive in financial markets, cross-ownerships of corporate interests, political interweavings, that if the US takes its marbles and goes home, really, everyone else suffers. A lot.

We have to find a way to balance this tremendous power with some other factors. China is a rising power. But, they are not on your side. They are on their side. No easy answer my friend.

I thought this was about the make-believe War on Terror, surely if the Yanks went home that could only be a good thing? Suffering aside, we would all get over it, in time.

Fucked if I know what China & Russia are up to behind the scenes though (beside hacking the Pentagon & slipping radioactive poisons in geezer's cocktails - like you do) & who's to say what they are capable of? No easy answers, as you say. No answers at all, I suspect.

[chinthee]

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

Chinthee,

I'm with you on the economic points for the most part.

My post was oversimplified, big-time.

By "economic interests" I meant causing problems in foreign countries because of U.S. corporate interests (e.g. Guatemala) but did not mean all FDI or other types of globalization.

Also, America's Economic interests in interlinked and reinforced - by its foreign policies and military.

A lot of harm is done in this.

Yes, we can argue about what is just, and whether might makes right, and whether "to the victor go the spoils."

The point is smart countries serving the interests of themselves and their populace will line up with US interests, because at least US interests are based in principles they can understand.

Who can understand Islamic non-secular principles, or Chinese goals? Even Russian interests are aligned today with the west, really.

[barbaro]

^ Yeah, God save the world the minute the US retreats to isolationism. Can you imagine the world chaos of mass failures of financial markets, export companies, and every other manner of US-linked dependency today.

What rubbish. The whole world is linked to the success and proliferation of the US and it's financial success.

Yes, you can argue about military and political interference. But you cannot argue that the world needs an engaged USA in the world or it all falls down today.

Chinthee,

I'm with you on the economic points for the most part.

My post was oversimplified, big-time.

By "economic interests" I meant causing problems in foreign countries because of U.S. corporate interests (e.g. Guatemala) but did not mean all FDI or other types of globalization.

Also, America's Economic interests in interlinked and reinforced - by its foreign policies and military.

A lot of harm is done in this.

Yes, we can argue about what is just, and whether might makes right, and whether "to the victor go the spoils."

The point is smart countries serving the interests of themselves and their populace will line up with US interests, because at least US interests are based in principles they can understand.

Who can understand Islamic non-secular principles, or Chinese goals? Even Russian interests are aligned today with the west, really.

I think increasingly these interests as being: $, Euros, Yuan....etc.

[mad_dog]

Did you notice that two of the suspects are white Germans? It seems to signify that radical Islamic ideologies are gaining a diverse group of adherents. Jihad Salafists could become the new Trotskyites. Radical Islam may be becoming the new form that anti imperialist struggle takes.


Also the BBC made another basic factaul error today when they stated that the hydrogen peroxide bomb materials seized were of the same kind as used in the Madrid bombings. This is completely untrue the Madrid bombs were made out of dynamite stolen from a mine in Northern Spain. Journalism today has become so pathetically poor.

[chinthee]

Oh, that's Brill. Trotskyites were all white. What are you gonna do with a world full of brown Trotskyites?

[mad_dog]

Oh, that's Brill. Trotskyites were all white.

Surely you jest. Trotsky's views were popular on a global scale. Particularly in Central and South America... The Soviets were scared of him... hence his untimely demise.

[Gerontion]

The US involvement if you like, is so deep, the tentacles so pervasive in financial markets, cross-ownerships of corporate interests, political interweavings, that if the US takes its marbles and goes home, really, everyone else suffers. A lot.

Rubbish. International capital would have us believe that without the ongoing accumulation of wealth by the uber-rich, we'd all be fucked but the opposite is the case. If America sank beneath the waves tomorrow, the poor of the world would benefit enormously.

[chinthee]

Central and South America only adopted his views because they had no platform before. Today, few in that area adhere to his views.

Yes, Soviets were scared and made him historical....which is where he remains.

[chinthee]

The US involvement if you like, is so deep, the tentacles so pervasive in financial markets, cross-ownerships of corporate interests, political interweavings, that if the US takes its marbles and goes home, really, everyone else suffers. A lot.

Rubbish. International capital would have us believe that without the ongoing accumulation of wealth by the uber-rich, we'd all be fucked but the opposite is the case. If America sank beneath the waves tomorrow, the poor of the world would benefit enormously.

Really? Maybe you'd like to tell that to the billions of Chinese furiously producing widgets for the American consumers when they lose their jobs tomorrow because America transfers all production to Mexico?

[DrB0b]

What's transferring production to Mexico got to do with anything? Do you really think China is making parts for US manufacturers? China is competing with US manufacturers. They're not just making widgets anymore, they're making cars, white-goods, computers, consumer-durables, and on and on, and they're being pretty successful at it too. They're competing directly with the USA (and others) in the same industries the USA (and others)has been historically successful in and they're beating you hands down. Have you seen the US-China trade deficit recently?

[chinthee]

^Where do you think all the investment for those widget factories, know how, transfer of technology and customers came from? Mars?

[mad_dog]

Yes, Soviets were scared and made him historical....which is where he remains.

His views were popular in the 60s 70s and 80s amongst radicals in the West. Ask Stroller! Where is stroller?