How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**Switch** · 04-03-2022, 11:23 PM

Whoever takes over will be obliged to withdraw from Ukraine, pay reparations, and negotiate the removal of sanctions.

Only then can they get on with fixing broken Russia.

Any volunteers?

**Backspin** · 05-03-2022, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Isn't he supposed to be dying from cancer and dead within a year within a year anyway?

That's if long Covid doesn't get him first.

Our resident Serb should have a look at Serbia right now.

YD, there are 2 sides to the story.

Russian Anthem sounding through the streets of Serbia’s capital Belgrade as thousands of people gather to show support for #Russia

http://Russian Anthem sounding throu...212; right now

**Backspin** · 05-03-2022, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Switch

Whoever takes over will be obliged to withdraw from Ukraine, pay reparations, and negotiate the removal of sanctions.

Only then can they get on with fixing broken Russia.

Any volunteers?

Clueless

VCIOM poll: 68% of Russians approve (22% oppose) of the "special military operation" in Ukraine. https://wciom.ru/analytical-reviews/analiticheskii-obzor/specialnaja-voennaja-operacija-v-ukraine-otnoshenie-i-celi As I said, there is no meaningful distinction between Putin and the Russian people on this question.

**pickel** · 05-03-2022, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

VCIOM poll: 68% of Russians approve (22% oppose) of the "special military operation" in Ukraine. ВЦИОМ. Новости: Специальная военная операция в Украине: отношение и цели As I said, there is no meaningful distinction between Putin and the Russian people on this question.

Thise are similar numbers to Americans support for the Iraq War at it's onset. Not so much now though, is it? Didn't you support that war socal?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Clueless

Indeed you are.

**Backspin** · 05-03-2022, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

Thise are similar numbers to Americans support for the Iraq War at it's onset. Not so much now though, is it? Didn't you support that war socal?

Indeed you are.

I did support the Iraq war but unlike you, I learned something from it and have some principals.

You didn't support the Iraq war only because GW Bush was in power. Just like every other lefty who became a reborn imperialist and support every war Obama started. Like Libya for example.

But Obama could have been worse. He vetoed sending lethal aid to Ukraine. A policy you opposed then and oppose now.

**pickel** · 05-03-2022, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

I did support the Iraq war but unlike you, I learned something from it and have some principals.

Congratulations for learning something I already knew, can't wait to see your posts in a few years learning from your mistakes again.

And nope, nope, and nope to the rest of your post.

**helge** · 05-03-2022, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

The plant's power unit had been hit, he added, as Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba called for an immediate halt to fighting at the site.
"Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Let's hope its fake or blown out of proportion:

Your wish has been granted

**Backspin** · 05-03-2022, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

Congratulations for learning something I already knew, can't wait to see your posts in a few years learning from your mistakes again.

And nope, nope, and nope to the rest of your post.

I don't support this war. You do. If I was in charge, Ukraine membership in nato would be revoked and put in a treaty with Russia. If you were in power, we would have this war.

**Backspin** · 05-03-2022, 02:57 AM

Australian Russian gets marched off talk show for wrong think.

“As someone who comes from the Russian community here in Australia, I’ve been pretty outraged by the narrative depicted by our media, with Ukraine as the good guy and Russia as the bad guy,” Gillies-Lekakis said.

“Believe it or not, there are a lot of Russians here and around the world that support what Putin’s doing in Ukraine, myself included,” he added before claiming that Ukraine has previously “besieged” the Russian populations in Donetsk and Luhansk, killing thousands of people.

Other audience members heckled him and yelled ‘propaganda’ and ‘lies’, while the host Grant moved the program on.

Around twenty minutes later Grant returned to Gillies-Lekakis and said he had ‘thought about it’ and wasn’t comfortable allowing him to stay in the studio.

**S Landreth** · 05-03-2022, 04:45 AM

Every bit helps..

Governors order state agencies to cut financial ties with Russia

Governors across the U.S. are instructing state agencies to cut financial ties with Russia amid Russian President Vladimir Putin's ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

The big picture: Dozens of states have taken steps to condemn Russia and join the federal government in supporting Ukrainians. Many have sought ways to take direct action to sanction the Russian government.

Details: Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) signed an executive order on Friday requiring state agencies to end contracts with Russian entities. They are also barred from entering into future contracts.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) directed all state agencies and authorities to review and divest public funds from Russia.
Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) banned contracts with Russian institutions or companies and ordered state agencies to move to terminate any current investments and contracts, according to The Olympian.
Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) has instructed state agencies to review and end any contracts with Russian state-owned companies.
North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) directed state agencies and departments to "terminate any agreements or operations that directly benefit Russian entities."
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) has prohibited state agencies from contracting with any Russian entities and cut off sales of Russian-made vodka at all Ohio liquor stores.

What to watch: It's likely other states will follow suit. Colorado and New Jersey are already reviewing possible divestment paths.

State legislatures have also introduced bills aimed at sanctioning Russia.

Gymnastics federation bans Russian and Belarusian athletes

The International Federation of Gymnastics announced Friday it will ban all Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials from participating in competitions starting next week.

Why it matters: It's the latest international sports federation to take measures against Russia and Belarus after the invasion of Ukraine.

The ban means Russian and Belarusian athletes will not be allowed to compete in the Acrobatic Gymnastics World Championships that begin next week.
Last week, the gymnastics federation banned Russian and Belarusian flags from being displayed and canceled events that were scheduled to take place in the countries.

What they're saying: "The [Executive Committee] will continue to monitor the situation closely and may further adapt these exceptional measures according to future developments," the organization said in a statement. https://www.axios.com/gymnastics-ban...083f482e0.html

Someone is hiding something………….

Russia blocks access to Facebook

Russia's communications regulator Roskomnadzor on Friday said it would block Facebook entirely, after partially restricting the social network a week ago.

Why it matters: Russia claims the decision of Facebook parent company Meta to restrict access to Russian state media accounts violated "fundamental human rights and freedoms, as well as the rights and freedoms of Russian citizens."

Driving the news: In a blog post Friday, Roskomnadzor said Facebook restricted the Zvezda TV channel, the RIA Novosti news agency, Sputnik, Russia Today, the Lenta.ru and Gazeta.ru information resources.

Russia says its laws prohibit efforts to prevent users access to Russian media on foreign Internet platforms.

Meta's president of global affairs said in a statement Friday that "soon millions of ordinary Russians will find themselves cut off from reliable information, deprived of their everyday ways of connecting with family and friends and silence from speaking out."

We will continue to do everything we can to restore our services so they remain available to people to safely and securely express themselves and organize for action," Clegg added.

Catch up quick: Tech companies have been increasingly limiting the reach of Russian state media.

Meta restricted access to Russian state media on its platforms across the EU earlier this week after the European Commission said it will ban "the Kremlin's media machine.
It also began demoting content linking to Russian state media outlets on Facebook and Instagram globally.
Several companies, including Google, Meta, Twitter, Microsoft, and others have complied with the Russian state media ban in the region and have restricted Russian state media from buying ads globally.

The big picture: Friday's move is part of a greater effort by Russia to silence dissent amid protests against the country's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

Russian lawmakers on Friday approved legislation that threatens to imprison journalists and individuals for up to 15 years if they publish what Moscow deems to be "fake" information about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. https://www.axios.com/russia-blocks-...a9a45fbe9.html

BBC suspends news operations in Russia amid free press crackdown

The BBC said Friday it is temporarily suspending its news operations in Russia after lawmakers approved legislation that threatens to imprison journalists and individuals for up to 15 years if they publish what Moscow deems to be "fake" information about Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Why it matters: The new law will make it very hard for Western outlets to report factually from the ground on what's happening in Russia.

Details: "This legislation appears to criminalise the process of independent journalism," BBC director-general Tim Davie said in a statement.

"It leaves us no other option than to temporarily suspend the work of all BBC News journalists and their support staff within the Russian Federation while we assess the full implications of this unwelcome development," he said, adding that the BBC News service in Russian will continue to operate from outside the country.
“The safety of our staff is paramount and we are not prepared to expose them to the risk of criminal prosecution simply for doing their jobs. I’d like to pay tribute to all of them, for their bravery, determination and professionalism."
Davie said earlier this week that millions of people in Russia were turning to the BBC, speaking to the thirst for independent reporting from within the country.

Catch up quick: Russia's media regulator Roskomnadzor on Tuesday restricted access to Russian independent outlets Radio Ekho Moskvy and Dozhd TV for "deliberately" sharing what it claimed was false information about the invasion.

Both outlets, the State Department said, have reputations for high-quality reporting within Russia and beyond.

Between the lines: Russian regulators have cracked down on independent voices for years, but they ramped up those efforts — including restricting tech platforms like Facebook and Twitter — following Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. https://www.axios.com/bbc-suspends-n...0c8a51ef8.html

**sabang** · 05-03-2022, 04:57 AM

Damn, that is gonna hit Brighton Beach & Coney Island hard.

**DrWilly** · 05-03-2022, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

If I was in charge, Ukraine membership in nato would be revoked and put in a treaty with Russia

Backspit, master statesman

**sabang** · 05-03-2022, 05:48 AM

If I was in charge, Ukraine membership in nato would be revoked

That shouldn't be too hard- Ukraine is not a member of Nato. I doubt it ever will be either.

**panama hat** · 05-03-2022, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

If I was in charge, Ukraine membership in nato would be revoked and put in a treaty with Russia.

If you were in charge of what exactly? Added to which, Ukraine isn't a NATO member. You are so fucked in the head it is painful.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Our resident Serb should have a look at Serbia right now.

YD, there are 2 sides to the story.

Not only are you telling Ukraine what to do, now you're telling our local Seb what Serbs are doing . . . seriously, I have never met anyone as base-idiot as you

**DrWilly** · 05-03-2022, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

and have some principals.

School principals?

**S Landreth** · 05-03-2022, 06:11 AM

Ineos cyclist Sivakov switches from Russian to French flag

Pavel Sivakov, one of the two Russian cyclists to ride in the elite World Tour, will compete under French colours from now on saying he had wanted to "accelerate" the process given Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The 24-year-old, born to former Russian cyclists in Italy and brought up in France, had spoken out against the invasion last week.

Russian and Belarusian cycling teams were banned from all international cycling events by the UCI on Tuesday, although individual athletes racing for professional teams elsewhere are exempt from the suspension.

Sivakov would have been able to carry on even without the switch of colours as he rides for Ineos Grenadiers.

"I wanted to become French for a while and I had approached the International Cycling Union (UCI) about the change," he said.

"Given what is happening in Ukraine at the moment, I wanted to speed the process up."

Ineos said the UCI accepted the change of nationality on Wednesday.

"I was born in Italy and I moved to France when I was one year old," said Sivakov.

"France is where I grew up and studied, where I fell in love with cycling, which sparked me into competing professionally.

"It is home. I am grateful to the UCI and Ineos for supporting me in this."

Sivakov -- who won the 2019 Tour of Poland and finished ninth in that year's Giro d'Italia -- said he is setting his sights on riding for his adopted country when Paris hosts the Olympic Games in 2024.

He also reiterated his opposition to the war.

"As I already said, I am totally against the war and all my thoughts are with the Ukrainian people.

"Like the majority of people in the world I hope for peace and a rapid end to the suffering in Ukraine."

**cyrille** · 05-03-2022, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Switch

Either you are having quite a few whoosh moments lately Cy, or you are deliberately misunderstanding other peoples posts.
Perhaps you have finally lost the plot, or more likely you’re just being a dick.

Nothing misunderstood at all. I posted my on-topic opinion in response to yours.

The post above was someone being a dick.

Speaking of ‘whoosh’ … have you worked out Mendy’s book title yet?

In short … projection overload from you.

**bsnub** · 05-03-2022, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

I did support the Iraq war but unlike you, I learned something from it and have some principals.

You suffer from Dunning-Kruger and are too stupid to have "principles". You are a dimwitted, propaganda swallowing, indoctrinated lemming.

Originally Posted by Backspin

I don't support this war.

Bullshit, you are lying again. You are it's biggest fanboy, cheering Russia on in your shit megawar thread. Truly disgusting.

**cyrille** · 05-03-2022, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

I did support the Iraq war but unlike you, I learned something from it and have some principals.

That must be handy for all that learning you’re doing.

But don’t they boss you around quite a bit?

**david44** · 05-03-2022, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

Ukraine membership in nato would be revoked

Oh dear

**sabang** · 05-03-2022, 06:50 AM

I fondly recall my internet battles with Boon Mee and the then Socal back in those days.

Sincerely- sab (battle hardened internet war veteran)

**david44** · 05-03-2022, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

too stupid to have principals

steady , drink more water with it

**cyrille** · 05-03-2022, 06:53 AM

^^^

There’s an ‘oh dear’ moment on virtually every line with socal.

**david44** · 05-03-2022, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

battle hardened internet war veteran

Thank you for your surface.

You are in thoughts and lairs

**harrybarracuda** · 05-03-2022, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

I fondly recall my internet battles with Boon Mee and the then Socal back in those days.

Sincerely- sab (battle hardened internet war veteran)

If interaction with known intellectual pygmies is a "battle" for you, it explains where the bar is.

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