How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

Pity you, again bad nightmares?

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So, you're saying you'd rather live in China or Russia than Thailand the UK, France, Italy, Australia, NZ, Germany, Spain, Portugal etc . . . ? Not sure what pity and nightmares have to do with it, but then probably neither do you, you just wrote the first thing that popped into your head

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

What's the logic in this comparison?

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It was the comparison of the conversation - why don't you like it? Can't follow a thread? (that's a rhetorical question)

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

the zillions of the US citizens (and of other developed countries) reside in Thailand

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Yes, the zillions of foreigners that live in Thailand or the Eastern Bloc (stats would be great o the latter)
Zillions . . . literally. You're a maths teacher, right? Same level as chico is as an English teacher with his dozen+ syllable vocabulary

How many times were you dropped on the head as an infant? Did you procreate while still in whatever backwater you grew up in or just recently in Thailand

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

PH stop triggering pinky and perky will you FFS.

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:) fish in a barrel

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

PH stop triggering pinky and perky will you FFS.

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Bill and Ben, stop smoking "Little Weed" FFS.

Otherwise "Dan the potato man" will make another epic entrance and "Slowcoach" will be utilised fully.

People generally vote with their feet which countries seem most appealing.

What is the net cross migration from Western psuedo-democracies to Eastern proto-autocracies (including Russia)?

Not a lot of people migrating to China, Russia, Poland, Bulgaria, North Korea etc... Conversely, hundreds of thousands going the other way.

Australia, the USA, the UK, Germany, France, NZ etc etc etc ...

Yes, I wonder which system is preferred, 'pseudo' or not

^I inserted psuedo because I feel they are more like corporate oligarchies with minor, but sometimes significant, input from "the people".

It's a sliding scale, IMO, with the socialist democracies being better off than the laissez faire capitalist democracies overall.

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

I inserted psuedo because I feel they are more like corporate oligarchies with minor, but sometimes significant, input from "the people".

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Surely you're not lumping them all together as that may apply to some, but not all/many

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

It's a sliding scale, IMO, with the socialist democracies being better off than the laissez faire capitalist democracies overall.

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Right, but that doesn't change that almost no-one is emigrating from the 'west' or other nations to China, Russia, Bulgaria, N Korea etc...

You mean social democracies, as in social democrats as the ruling party . . . which countries would you include in either?

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

What is the net cross migration from Western psuedo-democracies to Eastern proto-autocracies (including Russia)?

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Actually, the Russia ranks the world's 2nd immigration.

Perhaps not all from the "Western psuedo-democracies", not everybody keen on the harsh conditions, having to work hard. Better to move to Thailand where they can have an easy life with new wife (almost). And can afford a stone house and the electric power 240 V brought by concrete poles...:)

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

Perhaps not all from the "Western psuedo-democracies", not everybody keen on the harsh conditions, having to work hard. Better to move to Thailand where they can have an easy life with new wife (almost). And can afford a stone house and the electric power 240 V brought by concrete poles...

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You forgot to mention your swimming pool..

^Yes, quite difficult to make use of it throughout the whole year in Moscow...

I'm pretty sure vlad has a heated pool.

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Originally Posted by sabang

I'm pretty sure vlad has a heated pool.

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He surely can afford it. I remember many years ago how we were said that also Saddam had a heated swimming pool, and not just one. One of the reasons that he was invaded. Similarly, we heard about the former dictator Yanukovich in Ukraine, he even had one with golden faucets.

Wondering why leaders from other "advance" countries cannot afford to have something like this, why they live in such modest conditions...

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

What's the logic in this comparison?

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:smileylaughing:

Do you have yourself on 'ignore'?

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

Actually, the Russia ranks the world's 2nd immigration.

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Source, please.

^Look by yourself, ever heard about googling? Just enter the correct search key, with your English surely no problem. Wondering, usually you know about everything, don't you?

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

Actually, the Russia ranks the world's 2nd immigration.

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Originally Posted by panama hat

Source, please.

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

^Look by yourself, ever heard about googling?

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You really are dim . . . and a massive liar

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

^Look by yourself, ever heard about googling? Just enter the correct search key, with your English surely no problem. Wondering, usually you know about everything, don't you?

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JHC, you post up unsubstantiated bullshit and then when called on it do the funky monkey.

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Originally Posted by panama hat

You really are dim . . . and a massive liar

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True indeed.

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Originally Posted by panama hat

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Originally Posted by Klondyke
Actually, the Russia ranks the world's 2nd immigration.

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Originally Posted by panama hat
Source, please.

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Originally Posted by Klondyke
^Look by yourself, ever heard about googling?

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You really are dim . . . and a massive liar

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Which countries have the most immigrants? | World Economic Forum

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Also -

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“A comparison of quarterly data shows that, firstly, the current year’s first-quarter arrivals number was the highest in the last decade,” the RANEPA study’s authors Nikita Mkrtchyan and Yulia Florinskaya wrote, citing official data.A migrant population increase of 98,000 in January-April 2019 looks like “an anomaly” compared to a migrant population growth of 57,100 during the same period of 2018, according to RANEPA’s analysis.
Underestimated 2018 migrant population growth figures or a new methodology for compiling data could explain the surge this year, the authors said in research published Tuesday.
Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Tajikistan have been the largest sources of migrants to Russia this year, the study said.

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Supplying dodgy numbers and ex-Soviet states moving for work and then returning . . . not quite the real stats of emigrating and staying, becoming PRs or citizens.

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Russia’s migrant numbers have declined by the highest amount in the post-Soviet period last year as the country grapples with its own population crisis, the Vedomosti business daily reported on Monday.For the first time in a decade, migration has been unable to cancel out Russia’s population decline. Faced with the need for up to 300,000 additional people to reach net-zero growth every year, the Kremlin reportedly plans to attract up to 10 million Russian-speaking migrants by 2025.

NEWSKremlin Seeks Russian-Speaking Migrants to Offset Population Decline

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A total of 124,900 foreigners arrived in Russia last year, according to research from the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration (RANEPA) institute of social analysis and forecast cited by Vedomosti.

While arrivals declined by 4 percent between 2017 and 2018, departures skyrocketed by 16.9 percent, the institute said. Ukraine and Uzbekistan, formerly Russia’s largest migrant-donor countries, accounted for the biggest declines.

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Numbers look bad for mother Russia, tovarish? Easy - fudge them. Make them look good.

This is even from your Moscow Times

Russia’s Migrant Numbers Hit Record Low in 2018 - The Moscow Times

What a shithole Russia is:

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Record Number of Russians Want to Emigrate – Gallup

A record one-fifth of Russians would like to leave the country if they could, a threefold increase from five years ago, the Gallup pollster said Thursday.
Public polling inside Russia has indicated in recent years that between 17 and 20 percent of Russians were willing to migrate. Official data, which has been criticized for downplaying immigration figures, says Russia’s emigration numbers have reached a six-year record.

NEWSOfficial Data Vastly Underestimates Russian Emigration – Report

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In Gallup's 2018 poll, 20 percent of Russian respondents saidthey would like to leave Russia if they could.
The share of Russians seeking to move permanently to another country had never passed Gallup’s 17-percent high in 2007, the U.S. pollster’s results say. However, this number has grown steadily over the past five years, tripling from 7 percent in 2014 to 20 percent in 2018.
An “unprecedented” 44 percent of young Russians between ages 15 and 29 voiced the desire to leave.
Gallup tracked a direct correlation between changes in Russians’ migratory mood and President Vladimir Putin’s approval ratings, noting that “he may be at least partly to blame” for the latest record.
Russian respondents named Germany or the United States as their most-desired destinations at 15 and 12 percent respectively. Japan, Canada and Spain shared the third spot, with 5 percent of hopeful immigrants each.

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Record Number of Russians Want to Emigrate – Gallup - The Moscow Times

Almost half of Russians between 15 and 29 want to emigrate, flee the Russian shithole.

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Originally Posted by panama hat

You mean social democracies, as in social democrats as the ruling party . . . which countries would you include in either?

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Not the party, the system. Socialist democracies provide strong safety nets for their citizens, whereas countries with weak protections I would deem laissez faire democracies.

Which "experts" to believe!

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The one on the right will be the modified one approved for publication in Russia.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

approved for publication in Russia.

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Available on the world's internet allegedly, for those with a "connection" of course.

Bloomburg's offering appears to have "approved" Asian/Europe editions.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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Originally Posted by OhOh

Available on the world's internet allegedly, for those with a "connection" of course.

Bloomburg's offering appears to have "approved" Asian/Europe editions.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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None of which need Putin's permission for publication.

You snivelling sycophant.

Putin is still overwhelmingly popular in Russia. The country has been ruled for centuries by "strongmen", it's just a cultural predilection.

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The country has been ruled for centuries by "strongmen"

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^Yeh, they had been few not so strong, needing to ask an advice from D.C.:smileylaughing:

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Putin is still overwhelmingly popular in Russia.

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People see what are the results during his "strongmanship", despite all the kind help from the oversea "friends"...

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

People see what are the results during his "strongmanship", despite all the kind help from the oversea "friends"...

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Who or what are you quoting?

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

Yeh, they had been few not so strong, needing to ask an advice from D.C.

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Are you talking about Yeltsin? Don't think he was loved much by the general population during his time.

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Are you talking about Yeltsin?

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I'd advise you not to look for any sense.

^I approach Klondyke's posts like cryptic puzzles.

A way to pass time when the crossword is done.

Cryptic puzzles have a reason , make sense . . . Klondyke possesses neither of these

He's just a pro-Russian, anti-West character that loves to troll Teakdoor, for whatever reason.

It would be a little boring without him, or any of the other "eccentric" types here, IMO.

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Originally Posted by cyrille

I'd advise you not to look for any sense.

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For some it's a bit difficult, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

He's just a pro-Russian, anti-West character that loves to troll Teakdoor, for whatever reason.

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Instead of "pro" or "anti", what about to think about a "double standard"?

What's bad for one is very good for the other - a thousand years well-proven method for brainwashing the population, preparing them for a "righteous" war...

Vlad's been a bit quiet. Is he hiding out in one of his dachas?

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Vlad's been a bit quiet. Is he hiding out in one of his dachas?

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How outrageous and dangerous from him, isn't it? And "hideous" as well...

Why he does not outcry like (please no names here)...

He's probably down on the kolchoz doing day labor as a true communist.

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Originally Posted by lom

He's probably down on the kolchoz doing day labor as a true communist.

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Or just collecting coin from his oligarch mates while trampling on and killing the opposition

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Or he is saying for himself: "Manitou does not hear the dogs' barking..."
(As he remember the Indian chief's saying from the Karl May's books of Old Shatterhand and Vinnetou when reading during his mission in East Germany)

I thought 'arry might appreciate this:-


The 10 Best Songs About Putin

The 10 Best Songs About Putin - Worldcrunch