Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Heh, Bernie Sanders is a raving lunatic!

Booners, the Koch brothers, and Bernie Sanders are sitting at a table with a cake on it. The Koch Brothers slice the cake into 10 pieces and take 9 of them and begin eating them. They then lean over to Booners and say "you better be careful or that socialist is going to take your slice."

Originally Posted by misskit

Maybe those 38% of Iowa Dems want Bernie Sanders.

Just another wet dream drama Misskit...nothing serious to worry about, your lesbian queen is still in the driver's seat while throwing Bill under the nearest bus as being politically expedient...If and when elected Shillery will post Bill off to some Embassy Post in Africa where he can do as many sexual acts as he desires without reporters following his every move. Bill will also be very happy with the new assignment...From Brooklyn to Botswana...excellent choice.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Monica has changed her hair color.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Monica has changed her hair color.

lol I thought Bill had come out with his pockets full of candy to lure his usual victims.

In the first 24 hours of his presidential campaign, Sen. Bernie Sanders has raised more money than Republican candidates Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz did during their first day in the race.
Sen. Sanders raised $1.5 million from a network of small donors during his first day as an official presidential candidate.
The Washington Post reported:

The donations came from a broad base of supporters — some 35,000 donors who gave an average of $43.54 a piece, according to the Sanders campaign. The campaign also said it signed up more than 100,000 supporters through its website, building what it calls a “mass movement.”
Clinton has not released any details about her fundraising totals, online or otherwise. But the Sanders haul outpaces the three major Republican candidates who already have announced. In the first 24 hours since launching their campaigns, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) raised $1.25 million and Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) raised about $1 million each, according to their campaigns.

It is valuable to watch, not how much money is being raised, but how many donors a campaign has. In 2008 and 2012, the massive amount of small donors that Barack Obama was able to accumulate foreshadowed his strength on Election Day. Bernie Sanders is no Obama, but the fact that he has outraised the Paul money bomb machine speaks volumes about how the media has oversold Rand Paul’s strength as a candidate, which underestimating the strength of the support that is behind Bernie Sanders.
Republicans rely on wealthy donors and superPACs. What Sen. Sanders is doing is all the more incredible because he doesn’t have billionaires and dark money outfits funding his campaign. The money that Sen. Sanders is raising is coming from ordinary Americans who are fed up with a system that is rigged against them. Bernie Sanders isn’t going to raise a billion dollars, but he looks to be on pace to raise enough money to be competitive in the Democratic primary.

Sanders doesn’t have the fat cat donors behind him like Rubio, but he does have real grassroots supporters who are organizing behind him. Sen. Sanders might up being a stronger candidate than Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Rand Paul.
The money he is raising is not a fluke. Bernie Sanders is building an army of ordinary Americans who intend to topple the Koch brothers and take their country back.






In 24 Hours Bernie Sanders Raised More Money Than Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz

Bernie Sanders was interviewed by ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week." Very interesting what he had to say when he was asked why he would be a good president.

“For 30 years I’ve been standing up for workers of this country and I think I’m the only candidate who is prepared to take on the billionaire class which now controls our economy and increasingly controls the political life in this country. We need a political revolution in this country."

He isn't merely running against other presidential contenders, he is running against the Big Money control of the US Government.

See the entire interview here: Sen. Bernie Sanders Says America Needs 'Political Revolution' in 2016 - ABC News

Originally Posted by bsnub

In the first 24 hours of his presidential campaign, Sen. Bernie Sanders has raised more money than Republican candidates Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz did during their first day in the race.
Sen. Sanders raised $1.5 million from a network of small donors during his first day as an official presidential candidate.
The Washington Post reported:

The donations came from a broad base of supporters — some 35,000 donors who gave an average of $43.54 a piece, according to the Sanders campaign. The campaign also said it signed up more than 100,000 supporters through its website, building what it calls a “mass movement.”
Clinton has not released any details about her fundraising totals, online or otherwise. But the Sanders haul outpaces the three major Republican candidates who already have announced. In the first 24 hours since launching their campaigns, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) raised $1.25 million and Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ted Cruz (Texas) raised about $1 million each, according to their campaigns.

It is valuable to watch, not how much money is being raised, but how many donors a campaign has. In 2008 and 2012, the massive amount of small donors that Barack Obama was able to accumulate foreshadowed his strength on Election Day. Bernie Sanders is no Obama, but the fact that he has outraised the Paul money bomb machine speaks volumes about how the media has oversold Rand Paul’s strength as a candidate, which underestimating the strength of the support that is behind Bernie Sanders.
Republicans rely on wealthy donors and superPACs. What Sen. Sanders is doing is all the more incredible because he doesn’t have billionaires and dark money outfits funding his campaign. The money that Sen. Sanders is raising is coming from ordinary Americans who are fed up with a system that is rigged against them. Bernie Sanders isn’t going to raise a billion dollars, but he looks to be on pace to raise enough money to be competitive in the Democratic primary.

Sanders doesn’t have the fat cat donors behind him like Rubio, but he does have real grassroots supporters who are organizing behind him. Sen. Sanders might up being a stronger candidate than Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Rand Paul.
The money he is raising is not a fluke. Bernie Sanders is building an army of ordinary Americans who intend to topple the Koch brothers and take their country back.






In 24 Hours Bernie Sanders Raised More Money Than Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz

This fact shouldn't be a surprise.
In the end, probably better funded than the established Clinton machine as well.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Was under the impression that you thought of yourself as an Anarchist, Snubby..

In a perfect world yes I would prefer Social anarchism. However for any change to happen within the US we need to bring down the current government.

So for the time being I will keep pushing for people like Bernie to get into office. He is incorruptible, a tireless advocate for the poor and working class, and wants to smash the oligarchy.

What more could you ask for?

Social anarchism? With the high rates of violent crime, terrorist wishing to destroy America, greed, ect.,ect. how would you propose to protect the individual. I see you did say in a perfect world, do you really think a perfect world is even remotely possible.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I see you did say in a perfect world, do you really think a perfect world is even remotely possible.

Since perfection is usually unattainable the answer is no.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I see you did say in a perfect world, do you really think a perfect world is even remotely possible.

Since perfection is usually unattainable the answer is no.

Yes perfection is unattainable, which begs the question why would you or anyone even consider Social anarchism as a viable choice?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

why would you or anyone even consider Social anarchism as a viable choice?

Good god you are dense I prefaced my comment with "perfect world" because I was acknowledging that is is not a viable choice under the current conditions.

In a utopian world were everyone looked out for each other and got along it would work.

Originally Posted by MrG

Speaking in broad terms, Capitalism seems to be a strong engine for any economy

Until the finite resources start to run out and there is no more money for the plutocrats to squeeze from the common man.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

how would you propose to protect the individual

Tax the Corporations and Rich a bit more, rescind some of their most blatant tax lurks, and start to pay down the US government's debt load- even upgrading a bit of aging infrastructure in the process. I'm an Eisenhower Democrat. I'm sure Ike would have agreed that there is something obscenely wrong with a nominally democratic rebublic, when the Rich and MNC's can get away with paying less tax than the besieged middle class.

Originally Posted by sabang

I'm sure Ike would have agreed that there is something obscenely wrong with a nominally democratic rebublic, when the Rich and MNC's can get away with paying less tax than the besieged middle class.

He saw it coming. He tried to warn us. He was shuffled on to the memory hole.

Originally Posted by bsnub

What more could you ask for?

James Webb ... we need a candidate who can get us through 4-8 years without so much gawd dang mud slinging.

Can you imagine BoonMee trying to tarnish a decorated Vietnam War vet of Webb's caliber? No fukcing way. That would be a very bad move and this forum would get hot quick. Just sayin' ...

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by bsnub

What more could you ask for?

James Webb ... we need a candidate who can get us through 4-8 years without so much gawd dang mud slinging.

Can you imagine BoonMee trying to tarnish a decorated Vietnam War vet of Webb's caliber? No fukcing way. That would be a very bad move and this forum would get hot quick. Just sayin' ...

The Swift Boaters did it to Kerry.
They also did it to Max Cleland, a triple amputee combat vet who ran the Veterans Admin. (I believe) for awhile.
So Webb...? Sure, they might try; they have no bottom to which they will not sink.

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by bsnub

What more could you ask for?

James Webb ... we need a candidate who can get us through 4-8 years without so much gawd dang mud slinging.

Can you imagine BoonMee trying to tarnish a decorated Vietnam War vet of Webb's caliber? No fukcing way. That would be a very bad move and this forum would get hot quick. Just sayin' ...

The Swift Boaters did it to Kerry.
They also did it to Max Cleland, a triple amputee combat vet who ran the Veterans Admin. (I believe) for awhile.
So Webb...? Sure, they might try; they have no bottom to which they will not sink.

Pretty sure "we" talked shit about Murtha as well. But Webb is another story. Except for the (D) following his name the guy has impeccable veteran credibility.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by RPETER65

why would you or anyone even consider Social anarchism as a viable choice?

Good god you are dense I prefaced my comment with "perfect world" because I was acknowledging that is is not a viable choice under the current conditions.

In a utopian world were everyone looked out for each other and got along it would work.

Originally Posted by MrG

Speaking in broad terms, Capitalism seems to be a strong engine for any economy

Until the finite resources start to run out and there is no more money for the plutocrats to squeeze from the common man.

Actually I have read some pretty lengthy articles about Socialistic anarchism and I fail to understand why any one with any amount of intelligence could waste their time even thinking about it let alone writing, since you seem to prefer it I thought maybe you would have some input.

TeHe :-

Bill Clinton will keep giving speeches to 'pay our bills'


Monrovia (AFP) - Former US president Bill Clinton said in an interview that aired Monday he will keep giving lucrative speeches "to pay our bills" while wife Hillary Clinton runs for the White House.

Defending his charity work on a trip to Africa, Clinton said Hillary told him no foreign official has sought to influence her through donations to the family's foundation, which has come under fire for accepting millions of dollars from foreign governments.

Bill Clinton told NBC News he would step down from running the foundation "if it's the right thing to do".

But he insisted he would maintain a schedule of speaking events -- several of which reportedly paid him $500,000 a pop in recent years -- despite amassing a fortune in the 14 years since leaving the White House.

"Oh, yeah. I've got to pay our bills," Clinton said when asked if he would carry on with paid speaking engagements.

Clinton said he gives 10 percent of his revenue each year to the Clinton Foundation, and that Hillary "gave 17 percent" in the years she was with it.
Bill Clinton will keep giving speeches to 'pay our bills'


Hey booner- cue those Arkansas trailer trash jokes. Or was that Alabama?
Good old Billy & Hilly. Living the American Dream.

Some news that your next president is making and another poll

First the news (Transcript provided),……

“I will fight for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship for you and for your families across our country.”

Now the poll,……

The funny thing about the poll,..they didn’t even poll Cruz vs Clinton. Maybe they (as most) understand these candidates like Fiorina, Christie, Carson, .

Look as Cruz’s approval ratings (same poll as above),……..only one thing/group that has more dismal numbers than Cruz and they are the Teabaggers

Benghazi!

The Hillary Watch
The Clintons’ Pornographer

Or should we say, Minister of Culture?
By Paul Kengor – 5.8.15

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“When Larry Flynt is feeling righteous, he describes himself as a crusader: for civil liberties in general and free speech in particular.” So begins a profile of porn king Larry Flynt in Bloomberg. “But now Bloomberg Politics can exclusively report that the impresario behind the Hustler empire is adding a new element to his persona: Flynt is officially ready for Hillary.”
Bloomberg was present for the “bestowal of Flynt’s blessing on Clinton,” granted from the pornographer’s sprawling abode high above L.A.’s Wilshire Boulevard, which had the “look of an unholy, Hollywood Babylon hybrid of Tara and the Uffizi.”
It took little prompting to get Flynt’s enthusiastic endorsement of the feminist icon: “I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton for president!” declared the man who has made gazillions photographing nude women in every imaginable pose.
Bloomberg notes that Flynt’s backing of Clinton is “on the face of it, unsurprising.” The porn king has always been a big fan of Democrats, for whom his advocacy “has been lifelong and unfailing.” In fact, noted the Bloomberg reporter, one of Flynt’s better political pals is California Governor Jerry Brown, who, coincidentally, happened to be next in waiting to see Flynt that afternoon.
Flynt does not like Republicans. With its usual flare for understatement, his magazine proclaims George W. Bush the “A--hole of the Century.” Coming from Larry Flynt, Bush can take that as a giant positive.
Bloomberg noted the “animating impulse” behind Flynt’s endorsement: the future of the Supreme Court. “If Hillary gets in,” explains the Hustler publisher, “chances are she’s going to have an opportunity to appoint two, maybe three justices… and we could shift the balance there.” No question about that.
But Larry Flynt is not only hyped for Hillary. The Bloomberg piece includes this revealing passage on Flynt’s admiration of Hillary’s husband, which he claims is mutual:

That Flynt holds a special place in his heart for 42 [Bill Clinton] is evident, and Flynt claims that the feeling is mutual. In 2006, the two men ran into each other at a fundraiser in Las Vegas for Jimmy Carter’s son, Jack, who was running for Senate in Nevada. According to Flynt, Bill Clinton—apparently still grateful for the porn king’s role in the downfall of [Republican House Speaker-to-be] Bob Livingston, a key moment in the deflation of the impeachment bubble—walked over, shook Flynt’s hand, and said, “You’re my hero.” As I prepare to leave, Flynt shows me a photo on his desk of him and Clinton from the fundraiser, noting that the former president has denied the quote in question. “He can say whatever he wants,” Flynt chuckles. “I have three witnesses.”

Fascinating scenario, is it not? Flynt and Bill Clinton grabbing and grinning thankfully at a Vegas fundraiser for the son of born-again Baptist President Jimmy Carter, the Democrats’ moral exemplar. And Bill embraces the porn master as his hero? And Flynt even has a picture? And Clinton denies it? Gee, who do we believe in this one? Who would Hillary believe?



While he was at it, Bill should’ve asked Flynt for a donation to his and Hillary’s foundation. In fact, I wonder if Flynt ever provided one….
I’m somewhat familiar with the Clintons’ unique relationship with this political bedfellow. In my 2007 book on the faith of Hillary Clinton, God and Hillary Clinton, I detailed a scarcely acknowledged fact concerning the Clinton years—namely, that Bill’s presence in the Oval Office was a boon for the porn industry.
This was captured in an excellent 2002 PBS documentary called “American Porn,” done by Frontline. It quoted Mark Cromer, producer of the X-rated Hustler Video: “When [Bill] Clinton comes in,” said Cromer of Clinton’s arrival at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, “it’s definitely blue skies and green lights and fat bank accounts.”
The green light was directly traceable to the Clinton administration. In the 1980s, the porn industry had been on the ropes, targeted by the Reagan administration, notably the vigilant efforts of Attorney General Ed Meese. Then, in the early 1990s, federal porn prosecutions suddenly halted with the arrival of the Clinton administration and its “different priorities” under the Clinton-Janet Reno Justice Department. “Under Attorney General Reno,” noted Frontline, “federal prosecutions slowed dramatically, and the obscenity task force effectively went out of business.”
The obscenely racist—yes, not just sexist but racist—Hustler magazine was so ecstatic with the Clinton era and all its happenings, legally and symbolically, emanating both from and under Bill’s Oval Office desk, that Larry Flynt went to bat for Bill during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, investigating the sexual lives of the president’s opponents. So busy was Flynt that the late Michael Kelly, the superb Washington Post columnist, christened Flynt “the president’s pornographer.”
Flynt is the first to gratefully admit that the porn industry enjoyed a resurrection under Mrs. Clinton’s husband, until things soured again for a time under George W. Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft.
That’s another subject. As for Hillary Clinton, however, Flynt is again excited. And his excitement relates to a crucial factor ignored by Bloomberg and others: abortion. It’s the elephant on the porn set.
Larry Flynt and his industry—from performers to peddlers to consumers—need abortion badly. They must have it. And there’s no one more extreme in supporting abortion than Hillary Clinton. In my book on Hillary, I laid out at length her striking stridency on abortion, going all the way back to her Arkansas gynecologist and friend, William F. Harrison, who for decades was the state’s leading abortionist, mutilating tens of thousands of unborn babies. I interviewed Harrison several times for the book. He adored Hillary and described her as a fellow “pro-choice Methodist.”
Hillary is now well beyond “pro-choice Methodist.” Her statements in recent years, especially the horrific remarks she made on the Hobby Lobby case (click here for an analysis), reveal Hillary Clinton to be an abortion fanatic. She is utterly unhinged on the issue, radical beyond all boundaries.
Of course, that’s what Larry Flynt and the porn industry need; they crave an abortion zealot in the White House who will battle to keep the doors of the “clinics” wide open. When Larry and his friends inseminate a woman whose purpose is to serve strictly as their pleasure unit, and her contraception fails to fend off their sperm, they need abortion to discard the undesired byproduct. When one of his industry’s female performers accidentally gets pregnant, threatening to bloat the physical figure that is the object of Flynt’s customers’ desires, that girl needs Planned Parenthood. Hillary will fight to keep that spigot flowing.
Never mind, of course, that this blatant sexual objectification and exploitation of women for purely selfish male-centered reasons ought to infuriate feminists like Mrs. Clinton. For radical feminists, any man’s litany of sins is forgiven at the altar of their most blessed sacrament: abortion.
Just ask Hillary’s husband. Bill intimately learned of abortion’s reverence in the feminist church. My favorite anecdote illustrating the point was the infamous proclamation of journalist Nina Burleigh, who in the 1990s covered the White House for Time. Defending Bill Clinton’s sexual ruination of very young women (interns, no less) within the confines of the nation’s first house, Burleigh in 1998 wrote of her president: “I’d be happy to give him [oral sex] just to thank him for keeping abortion legal.” Burleigh recommended: “I think American women should be lining up with their presidential kneepads on, to show their gratitude for keeping the theocracy off our backs.”
Now there’s a vision of American women that Larry Flynt would heartily endorse. But for 2016, he’s content with his dream of a woman named Clinton elected to the White House. She’ll keep the theocracy off Flynt’s back—and the doors to abortion clinics wide open.

Paul Kengor’s forthcoming book is Takedown: From Communists to Progressives, How the Left Has Sabotaged Family and Marriage. His other books include The Communist: Frank Marshall Davis, The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mentor and (among others) God and Hillary Clinton.




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Wow! Imagine that!

Having a supporter such as Larry Flynt!