Thread: Another US Embassy Under Siege

Originally Posted by sabang

Thomas Pickering: Benghazi Call Did Not Come From Hillary Clinton

Already addressed in post #590 this thread.

Do try to keep old chap!

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

People like Boon Mee don't seem to understand that Benghazi is fucking war zone, and people get killed in war zones.

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Yea, but when they are pinned down and under fire help is usually given when asked for.
I don't understand how many eople won't admit that the powers that be totally fucked up on this one and are flat out denying it and trying to cover their arses.
Its pretty obvious.

Pretty sure Admiral Mullen said nothing could be done ... Nothing was within range. Course he was appointed as JCS by GWB so he might not be telling the truth.

IMHO this is an example of American arrogance on the part of the Ambassador. What in the hell was he thinking?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

IMHO this is an example of American arrogance on the part of the Ambassador. What in the hell was he thinking?

Don't get your drift here, stores?

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria. That fact has already been established. The Ambassador was calling for increased security for his Consulate weeks before the attack so where's the 'arrogance'?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Already addressed in post #590 this thread.

No, just blowhards desperate to find something (anything), snooping under every rock and tilting at windmills. Again, and again, and again. Pickering chaired the previous enquiry- and you look like fools. Again.

Anything but get on with the job of governing the country, and addressing it's many actual problems. The GOP's cavalier approach towards government and it's responsibilities will surely go down well with Joe Average and his soon to be voting age offspring. Well done.

Meanwhile, golly gosh I can hardly draw breath waiting for the latest impeachment for the latest bigger than watergate scandal. This ones the big one, fer sure.

Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria. That fact has already been established

The world according to Bonehead and Alex Jones is now established fact a priori without the benefit of proof. Genuflect to our new oracles.

Originally Posted by sabang

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Anything but get on with the job of governing the country, and addressing it's many actual problems.

And ignoring the governmental abuses.

Move along now sheeple, nothing to see here. Trust us, we know what's best for you and the country?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria. That fact has already been established

The world according to Bonehead and Alex Jones is now established fact a priori without the benefit of proof. Genuflect to our new oracles.

Because you didn't read it on Media Matters or the HufPo there Dumbert?

This vaunted 'Pickering Report' some of y'all keep on blathering on about appears to be ' purposefully incomplete and willfully misleading.'

"The two men in charge of the ARB, Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Admiral Michael Mullen, a diplomat and military man respectively, have no meaningful investigative experience. Instead of letting the facts lead the direction of the investigation, the report appears designed to protect the interests of Hillary Clinton, the State Department higher ups, and the president. A most obvious question is: why was Secretary Clinton never interviewed for the investigation? She is mentioned only once in the report, as the person who convened the Board. If, as Clinton herself has said, she took full responsibility for what happened in Benghazi, her decisions and decision-making process are materially relevant for investigating what happened before and during the night of September 11, 2012, and preventing what went wrong from ever happening again.

Other relevant questions the report does not answer are: How often did Clinton and President Obama speak during the attack? What decisions did the president make, and what orders did he give? What was the hour by hour participation of the president during the attack?"

Pickering Report - A Failed Whitewash

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

IMHO this is an example of American arrogance on the part of the Ambassador. What in the hell was he thinking?

Don't get your drift here, stores?

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria. That fact has already been established. The Ambassador was calling for increased security for his Consulate weeks before the attack so where's the 'arrogance'?

If I'm not mistaken the Pickering-Mullen report indicates he travelled to Benghazi without escort. In a country at war knowing security was inadequate. So, what was he thinking?

Come on BM ... Quit with the charade. Nobody believes you give a damn about some liberal poofter.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

IMHO this is an example of American arrogance on the part of the Ambassador. What in the hell was he thinking?

Don't get your drift here, stores?

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria. That fact has already been established. The Ambassador was calling for increased security for his Consulate weeks before the attack so where's the 'arrogance'?

If I'm not mistaken the Pickering-Mullen report indicates he travelled to Benghazi without escort. In a country at war knowing security was inadequate. So, what was he thinking?

Come on BM ... Quit with the charade. Nobody believes you give a damn about some liberal poofter.

Perhaps nobody gives a hoot about the death of this Ambassador. Obviously, Bath House doesn't 'cause he called this 'incident' a 'bump in the road. Obviously, Piano Legs doesn't either as she stated 'what difference does it make?' And, Elijah Cummings on the House Oversight Commettee doesn't give a shit as he stated "Life is Death'

So, somebody must give a shit and the buck stops somewhere. That Pickering Report is basically discredited as a whitewash so the beat goes on...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This vaunted 'Pickering Report' some of y'all keep on blathering on about appears to be ' purposefully incomplete and willfully misleading.'

"The two men in charge of the ARB, Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Admiral Michael Mullen, a diplomat and military man respectively, have no meaningful investigative experience. Instead of letting the facts lead the direction of the investigation, the report appears designed to protect the interests of Hillary Clinton, the State Department higher ups, and the president.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised you're attempting to discredit Admiral Mullen. I don't think you really want to do it but you're left with no choice I suppose if you feel compelled for whatever reason to keep fuming about the black brother in the White House.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This vaunted 'Pickering Report' some of y'all keep on blathering on about appears to be ' purposefully incomplete and willfully misleading.'

"The two men in charge of the ARB, Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Admiral Michael Mullen, a diplomat and military man respectively, have no meaningful investigative experience. Instead of letting the facts lead the direction of the investigation, the report appears designed to protect the interests of Hillary Clinton, the State Department higher ups, and the president.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised you're attempting to discredit Admiral Mullen. I don't think you really want to do it but you're left with no choice I suppose if you feel compelled for whatever reason to keep fuming about the black brother in the White House.

Pickering and Mullen were played. Plain and simple.

Just 'cause you were in the Navy for a 'spell' and were informed, perhaps, what a 'good guy' Mullen is doesn't mean that the report isn't a smokescreen. Both these guys will be remembered for this shoddy investigation.

And, your comment about 'the black brother in the white house' is pure straw man. Focus instead on the legitimate investigation into the coverup.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Perhaps nobody gives a hoot about the death of this Ambassador.

Reminds me of the idiots who stray into places like Iran and a North Korea and then their families expect the USA to send the entire Army to rescue them. Arrogant dolts.

We expect young military women and men these days to have a "liberty buddy" when they experience shore leave to help keep them out of trouble.

Sounds to me like the Ambassador thought he was special ... And he paid for that thought with his life.

^^I love these armchair warriors like Bonehead who think they have it all figured out. Robert Gate's comments posted earlier sum up their dimwitted, cartoonish fantasies. If you haven't figured out Bonehead's motivations by now you haven't been paying attention; The current president is black and not fit to lead a nation where whites are in control.

More grist for the mill:

Meet Ben Rhodes. Obama's fixer behind the Benghazie coverup(s):

Barack Obama's "Tower of Fabrications," as Peter Wehner describes the Benghazi scandal, is beginning to crack. And that crack will soon reveal a central figure behind the cover-up, a man close to Barack Obama for years but generally unknown to the public: Ben Rhodes.

Rhodes has risen from being an obscure and failed fiction writer to formulating foreign and national security policy for Obama precisely because he is willing to his superiors' bidding regardless of facts. He has a history of using whatever talents he has with the pen to do so.

The coercion may be going into overdrive as the investigations gets closer to fingering Ben Rhodes as the key player behind the Benghazi cover-up. According to Patrick Howley of the Daily Caller, CBS News may be on the verge of firing Atkinson."

Articles: Ben Rhodes: Obama's Fixer behind the Benghazi Cover-Up

CBS reporter Cheryl Atkinson is investigating the Benghazi scandal where Ben Rhodes appears to be a major player. Rhodes brother is the head of CBS. Atkinson is soon to be let go from CBS! Not too obvious, eh?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Sounds to me like the Ambassador thought he was special ... And he paid for that thought with his life.

Heh...& it sounds like you're Trolling.

The Ambassador was just doing his job and when he got into a jam, he was thrown on the scrap heap of history. But, what does it matter?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Just 'cause you were in the Navy for a 'spell' and were informed, perhaps, what a 'good guy' Mullen is doesn't mean that the report isn't a smokescreen.

Sounds remarkably similar to a response I got from raycarey when I supported General Petraeus during the quagmire in Iraq ...

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Just 'cause you were in the Navy for a 'spell' and were informed, perhaps, what a 'good guy' Mullen is doesn't mean that the report isn't a smokescreen.

Sounds remarkably similar to a response I got from raycarey when I supported General Petraeus during the quagmire in Iraq ...

Well, ask yourself, what do you know about Admiral Mullin's motivation for writing a whitewash? What we do know is it looks as if this administration staffed by the unqualified. A fiction writer making policy? What kind of insanity is that?

A community rabble rouser as president? More insanity. A political has-been who never accomplished anything in the political arena on her own ability is secretary of state?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria.

If the US wanted to ship arms to Syria via Turkey why would they have the Libyan ambassador go to a consulate in Benghazi? Why not get the ambassador in Turkey to do it? Why not send them via Iraq? This latest talking point makes no sense at all.

Even if it were true you should be happy, the neocons and chickenhawks have been calling on Obama to aid the Syrian rebels for a while now.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The Ambassador was acting in his official capacity in Benghazie as a conduit for arms being schlepped thru Turkey to the rebels in Syria.

If the US wanted to ship arms to Syria via Turkey why would they have the Libyan ambassador go to a consulate in Benghazi? Why not get the ambassador in Turkey to do it? Why not send them via Iraq? This latest talking point makes no sense at all.

Even if it were true you should be happy, the neocons and chickenhawks have been calling on Obama to aid the Syrian rebels for a while now.

Geraldo Rivera might not be one of my personal 'go-to' guys regarding news as he is generally too liberal for my tastes but...between him and earlier...wait for it now...Glen Beck - who also reported on this story - you know, there just might be a grain of truth to it?

Geraldo Rivera: My Sources Tell Me Benghazi Was About Running Missiles to Syrian Rebels | Video | TheBlaze.com

BM: Good point. My faith in these four star rank officers has got me into trouble before ... Case in point being General Colin Powell when he went before the UN with his song and dance about WMDs in Iraq ...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

you know, there just might be a grain of truth to it?

You already described it as an 'established fact' now you say there just might be a grain of truth to it.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

you know, there just might be a grain of truth to it?

You already described it as an 'established fact' now you say there just might be a grain of truth to it.

Not familiar with sarcasm are we?

Heh...go quote something from Media Matters or Mother Jones etc. for us will you? And, of course, forget to cite your references.

There's a good boy!