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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Actually, in his honour and respect for Veterans, John McCain was being criticised by Obama for his rejection of a bill that would increase benefits to Vets.
    I know a few veterans. Some have PTSD. With PTSD, there are neurological changes in the brain and the brain does not return to the way it was before the PTSD.

    As for Veterans benefits, I must be honest here. I know some vets who were in 'Nam 40 years ago, and they are getting pretty decent money from the government, today. They are living like kings in Saigon and elsewhere.

    It make me wonder. I think too much is paid out by the government.

    Veteran benefits are just another Entitlement. Recieved by a few, and pay for by all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I know some vets who were in 'Nam 40 years ago, and they are getting pretty decent money from the government, today. They are living like kings in Saigon and elsewhere.
    Many are living as you say. Not unlike anyone who worked for 40 years and retired. Combination of "company" retirement and Social Security

    Add to that disability payments many receive be they ex military or civilian does tend to make for a good income in SEA.

    For those scamming the system for disability I agree with you. Government at times is too quick to give disability to people that are undeserving.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    For those scamming the system for disability I agree with you. Government at times is too quick to give disability to people that are undeserving.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    The most experienced Vietnam Vet that I know of on Issues is not a Right Wing DukeNuke'm at all.
    Clearly some pussy senile old git who has no inkling "instant war" is the only way to really solve a nation's problems. Works even when the problems have nothing to to with the reasons for the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    For those scamming the system for disability I agree with you. Government at times is too quick to give disability to people that are undeserving.
    Agreed.
    I agree with Norton and Texpat.

    I know a couple of LRRPs, and have a lot of respect for their courage, if that is the right word to use. LRRPs was volunteer all the way, and you could also quit anytime.

    The guys I know with PTSD, have it for real. I know they do. They also do not tell "stories," but do express worries, sorrow, and all of the additional things that one may go through from having these experiences.

    There are a couple of guys I know that do to tell "stories," and they are kind of reminiscient and macho about it. These latter guys have been privately accused by some vets of faking it, or exagerrating things. They may have actually been REMFs, and no offense to that. But they played the system. Some guys with PTSD entitlements have been called back to take another test with a psychiatrist to see if they're being truthful or not mis-diagnosed. But if you do your homework, you'll know exactly what to say, and how to say it.

    Anyway, real PTSD, is real. And it often results in a lower life expectancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The most experienced Vietnam Vet that I know of on Issues is not a Right Wing DukeNuke'm at all.
    "Experienced" as defined as...?
    We are not talking about REMF's either...

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    settle down boon mee.

    we all know you nearly won the war single handedly (on a submarine no less) before jane fonda came along and snatched victory away.


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    ^
    Heh...still got a sense of humor after yesterday's shellacking you got?

    Good! Hang in there ray - hate to see you fuck-off like ant did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    yesterday's shellacking you got?
    keep trying to convince yourself of that willy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    yesterday's shellacking you got?
    keep trying to convince yourself of that willy.
    Well, all you have to do is go https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...ssues-mod.html

    Doesn't get more evident than that!

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    this is not the thread for this, but feel free to post your 'evidence' of my shellacking on that thread

    i'm looking forward to it willy.

    go ahead and slink away now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    this is not the thread for this, but feel free to post your 'evidence' of my shellacking on that thread

    i'm looking forward to it willy.

    go ahead and slink away now.
    Absolutely right, this isn't the thread to discuss your sorry showing of late so this one last post to focus that rather denial-infested TEFLer 'brain' of yours to reality. You took a serious ass-whoopin' yesterday but that's OK.

    btw..who's 'willie' or what is 'willie'?
    You are confused...again
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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    we all know you nearly won the war single handedly (on a submarine no less) before jane fonda came along and snatched victory away.
    Nah, he budged out before the going got tough and actual combat began in 'nam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    we all know you nearly won the war single handedly (on a submarine no less) before jane fonda came along and snatched victory away.
    Nah, he budged out before the going got tough and actual combat began in 'nam.
    Heh...I'll let you have a peak at my DD214 sometime.

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    what's up with john mccain's excessive blinking?

    surely i'm not the only one who's noticed this.

    is it a side effect of some medication he's taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    is it a side effect of some medication he's taking?
    At his age must be contacts. Big thick buggers.

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    perhaps.

    but i'm guessing it's his meds.

    either way, it's disconcerting.

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    another 'senior moment' for mccain....

    John McCain told Newsweek that he did not deliver a portion from the prepared text of his speech last Tuesday chiding the media for not giving Hillary Clinton her due. But video from McCain's address shows him giving the line as written.

    "The media often overlooked how compassionately she spoke to the concerns and dreams of millions of Americans," McCain said in a nationally-broadcast speech in Kenner, Lousiana. "And she deserves a lot more appreciation than she sometime received."

    Asked about this statement in an interview last week with Newsweek's Holly Bailey and Jon Meacham, McCain interjected, "I did not [say that]—that was in prepared remarks, and I did not [say it]—I'm not in the business of commenting on the press and their coverage or not coverage."

    Presented with video showing that the GOP nominee did in fact read the remarks as they were prepared, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said Newsweek's account of McCain's answer is "paraphrased and unclear."

    Rogers said he was not questioning the magazine's transcription, but pointing out that they included brackets.

    But, given that he was responding to a direct question about a portion of the speech, it's unclear what else McCain could have been alluding to when noting twice that he "did not." That he also pointed out that the same section had been "in the prepared remarks" only clarifies that he was referring to the passage in question.

    Newsweek's Bailey said the McCain quote as included in their q-and-a posted online was verbatim.

    Rogers said McCain "answered the way he did because his point in the speech wasn’t so much to smack the press as to compliment Sen. Clinton for the tenacity and compassion she showed in her campaign, and as he said, he’s never been a fan of complaining about his own press coverage."
    Jonathan Martin's Blog: McCain DID deliver line tweaking press - Politico.com

    so he lashes out at the press, then denies that he lashed out....and then denies that he denied lashing out?

    oh boy.

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    Oh all you McCain lovers, don't give up. It's time to show the world that McCain is the most intelligent among you Americans.

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    McCain has taken the lead on proposing solutions to the lifeblood of America: small companies, and the middle class.

    I hope to see Obama follow his lead and propose something similar, though he will look like a follower when he does it. Not good for my candidate, Obama.

    McCain wants low corporate taxes, regulated CEO pay


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican White House candidate John McCain will promise on Tuesday to lower corporate tax rates if he wins the U.S. presidency and ease the tax burden on middle-class workers to help revive the faltering economy.
    "Will we enact the single largest tax increase since the Second World War as my opponent proposes, or will we keep taxes low for families and employers?" he will say, according to excerpts released before his speech.
    He supports keeping capital gains taxes low, doubling a tax exemption for children, and phasing out the "alternative minimum tax" which he said would save some 25 million middle-class families up to $2,000 in a year.

    On Monday Obama drew a sharp contrast with McCain, his opponent in the November election, accusing him of wanting to widen President George W. Bush's tax cuts and plunge the United States deeper into debt.
    McCain wants low corporate taxes, regulated CEO pay - Yahoo! News

    Please let's hope Obama gets on the bandwagon to help small companies and the middle class, rather than overtaxing them.

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    ^ Ain't gonna happen. He wants to tax the crap out of everyone to support his healthcare and welfare progs. Byebye startup biz incentives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    He wants to tax the crap out of everyone
    nonsense.

    or show a reputable link where Obama will raise taxes on 'everyone'.

    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    He wants to tax the crap out of everyone
    nonsense.

    or show a reputable link where Obama will raise taxes on 'everyone'.

    good luck.
    I agree with Ray.

    I have not read anywhere, or heard any speech or transcripts of Obama making a statement like this. What and where is the source for this "He wants to tax the crap out of everyone?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    or show a reputable link where Obama will raise taxes on 'everyone'.
    Not likely a link but just in case he does Jettie can claim she "called it".

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    ^ I will, I will! 55555555555
    Ok, let's see about these tax cut issues. The lefty US press is out bashing McCain, so I turned to Australia for a better synopsis of lay of the trail land.

    "The Illinois senator twice repeated key aspects of his tax proposals, as he suggested Senator McCain had falsely presented his ideas.

    “What he's prescribing in his speech is wrong for the country, and the way that he's characterising what I'm prescribing is just wrong,” Senator Obama said. “Let me be clear: my tax reform plan would cut taxes for 95 percent of workers.”

    So, that's people earning $75,000 or less a year. You mean to tell me only 5% of Americans earn more than 75,000 buckaroonies a year? Come on.

    Senator Obama also claimed that Senator McCain's plans would favor corporations over individuals.

    Nope, McCain mentioned small businesses, which are the backbone of USA.

    I must find more linkies on this tax shuffle. Also, Obama says he will pull out of Iraq and deploy more troops in Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan (how's he gonna do Pakistan when he hates Musharef?) And where will this money come from? Economic surge in the black ghetto areas where folks become tax-paying citizens?

    A small sidebar:
    ...Senator Obama said it has been “months” since he last smoked a cigarette, but declined to provide much more detail. “I don't remember, but it was probably - it's been a while, you know . . . months.”

    Oh, um, ya mebbe the last time I went to Trinity Church and smoked a few spliffs with tobacco as filler...

    McCain, Obama battle over tax | The Australian

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