Thread: Same sex marriage

And the decline of America continues................

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

And the decline of America continues................

You're right Davis. But sadly, with Obama reelected, I'm afraid we haven't seen anything yet.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

BS. The govt has no right to determine what constitutes a marriage, which is the union betwen a man and a woman. Why? Because a man & a woman procreate (usually). Next on the docket: marriage between a dog and his human boyfriend. Hey, bestiality ain't worse than sodomy, is it? What's next? Marriage between a dead lesbian and her living lover? Sure, what's wrong with necrophilia?

That Calvinist conditioning has paid off nicely.

[QUOTE=Minnie Maugham;2017260]..... Next on the docket: marriage between a dog and his human boyfriend. .... What's next? Marriage between a dead lesbian and her living lover?

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Except that the dog and the dead lesbian can't emit their agreement.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

BS. The govt has no right to determine what constitutes a marriage, which is the union betwen a man and a woman. Why? Because a man & a woman procreate (usually). Next on the docket: marriage between a dog and his human boyfriend. Hey, bestiality ain't worse than sodomy, is it? What's next? Marriage between a dead lesbian and her living lover? Sure, what's wrong with necrophilia?

How about legalising homosexual, incestuous polygamy?

I have actually been on another forum (a very liberal one) and got banned for 5 days for opposing this nonsense.

some people will take their libertarian values to extremes.

Jolly good news for the shitstabbers.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Hey, bestiality ain't worse than sodomy, is it?

Don't really know.
Only ever tried one of them.

^ Nope, Surin, just common sense. I see this crap as the loss of morality. No morales, the warped govt thinks it can let free of whatever it wants. Crap.

If the UK is anything to go by, a decent number of "gay marriages" are simply between unmarried same sex business partners. Think about it - fpr change from 50 quid at the registry office they benefit from zero capital transfer tax, zero inheritance tax and if one of them subsequently becomes non resident fcuk all income tax too.

why limit the marriage to just two
what about the 'form a circle brigade'.
a wholly new trend in marriage.

marriage is a contract between a man and a woman .

Another state might be added to the list,……Illinois.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel today said he would press for legislation pending in Springfield that would legalize same-sex marriage in Illinois.

“I’ll push for it because it is consistent with the values base, and the practical values base, that I think is right as a city, as a state and as a country,” said Emanuel, who supported gay marriage during the campaign.

Link: Emanuel backs Illinois gay marriage measure - chicagotribune.com

The bill, the Religious Freedom and Marriage Fairness Act, was recently introduced to the Illinois House by Reps. Greg Harris, Deborah Mell, and Kelly Cassidy.

Last year, Illinois legalized civil unions for same sex couples, granting them some of the legal rights of married couples, such as for inheritance or hospital visits. But LGBT rights advocates said that civil unions — while being a positive step forward — did not add up to full equality under the law.

“If you have two loving adults, that should actually be held up as a positive, whether it’s male or female, but in this case female-female, male-male,” Emanuel added. “I think that’s proper, and we shouldn’t as a state discriminate.”

Link: Rahm Emanuel vows to fight for marriage equality | The Raw Story

And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone, I will make him an help meet for him.
(Genesis 2:18)
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(Genesis 2:24)

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone, I will make him an help meet for him.
(Genesis 2:18)
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(Genesis 2:24)

Fortunately we all know what crap 'God' sprouts, eh.

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone, I will make him an help meet for him.
(Genesis 2:18)
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(Genesis 2:24)

And the bible also said that two penguins walked all the way from Antarctica to the Middle East to get on a wooden ark

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone, I will make him an help meet for him.
(Genesis 2:18)
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(Genesis 2:24)

That is not really what I said.

Cuba once made life hard for gays. Now, it’s on a path to allowing same-sex marriage

As Cuba enters a new era with a modern constitution, acclaimed Cuban writer and ethnographer Miguel Barnet said Sunday that it is time to break with the past and endorse a constitutional change that will allow same-sex marriage on the island.

“If you need to break with tradition, you break,” Barnet said during a Cuban National Assembly debate on a draft of a new constitution for the island.

“In socialism no type of discrimination between human beings exists,” said the National Assembly deputy and author of Biography of a Runaway Slave. “I am in favor of Article 68 of the new constitution. Love has no sex.”

Article 68 of the new draft constitution, which must be submitted to the Cuban people for consultation before a final version is approved by the National Assembly, defines marriage as “the consensual union between two people, regardless of gender.”

On Sunday afternoon, the National Assembly approved a draft of the constitution that included the gay-marriage provision. It will be submitted for popular consultation from Aug. 13 to Nov. 15.

If the proposal becomes part of the Cuban Constitution, Cuba would join the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and many European countries where gay marriage is legal. In Latin America, same-sex marriage is legal in Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay and some jurisdictions of Mexico.: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nat...215322515.html

Who cares? Let the idiots bugger each other to they all die of disease. Nature will sort them out, no doubt.

Polticians will do anything to buy votes; take illegal immigration for instance. Sneak across the border, have 10 or 15 kids (all paid for by US taxpayer dollars), and wind up getting more "rights" than legal immigrants and US citizens.

No wonder the US goverment is broke!

That's why I love Thailand, I can escape the insanity of the USA.

RickThai

Reminds me of the fall of Rome.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

Reminds me of the fall of Rome.

How quaint.
Shouldn't flatter the civilisation in such a reflective fashion.
There's nothing quite that extraordinary about it.

The only real comparative to ancient would be the attempt to force empire on the known world.

Originally Posted by RickThai

Who cares? Let the idiots bugger each other to they all die of disease. Nature will sort them out, no doubt.

That's why I love Thailand, I can escape the insanity of the USA.

RickThai

Well it looks like the loser above is going to have to find another holiday destination to escape the insanity (maybe another place to live). It might not be the first thing on the new governments agenda (whoever that might be), but it looks like it will happen sooner or later.

Maybe it will choose an African Nation for its next holiday.

Gay marriage a first for Khon Kaen

This northeastern province saw its first same-sex marriage when two men tied the knot in Phu Pha Man district on Saturday.

Choengchai Plubpiboon, 42, the owner of the stainless steel maker P.B. Metal Co Ltd, led a joyous khan mak engagement procession to the house of Uthane Korasing, 30, amid cheers from relatives, friends and well-wishers from both sides.

Both Mr Choengchai and Mr Uthane wore beautiful traditional Thai clothes.

Mr Choengchai offered Mr Uthane's family 1 million baht and 10 baht-weight of gold ornaments worth 200,000 baht as a dowry, in the Thai custom.

Mr Choengchai said he had known Mr Uthane for one year and the two had become partners not long ago.

Mr Uthane earlier worked in Bangkok but had returned home to help with his family's rice and sugarcane fields.

Mr Uthane, who holds an MBA from Rajabhat Univerty's Suan Dusit campus in Bangkok, was working at a construction materials trading company in the capital when he met Mr Choengchai.

"As part of our work, we got to know each other and we found we share the same attitudes and values," he said. "Above all, we love our families above all else. So I decided this is the right one for me."

Thongchai Plubpiboon, Mr Choengchai's father, said his son had told him 15 years ago he was a homosexual.

"Our family accepts him as he is," he said. "He's hard working and has built a business for the family so that we have everything. What he needed was the right partner.

"When my son told us he would like to marry Uthane, I was shocked and then I felt happy for him. He finally found a good partner who understands him. I'm very happy for them."

Early in November last year, two women married in a similar traditional ceremony in Nakhon Ratchasima with the blessings of their families.

Same-sex marriage is not yet legally recognised in Thailand. The former Pheu Thai government first proposed a law in 2013 and the Democrat and Pheu Thai parties set up a joint panel to draft the bill last year. It remains unclear what happened to the bill after the May 22, 2014 coup.

Several civic groups have supported the bill and some even have their own versions submitted to Parliament. Seminars and hearings have also been held and the bill has received strong support from the Justice Ministry.

Under the bill, two Thai citizens aged 20 or over would be able to register their marriage provided they are not related or already married to someone else.

A couple would then enjoy the same rights as any heterosexual married couple, including the right to inherit as well as tax privileges.

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In wake of U.S. ruling, Taiwanese rally for gay marriage

Thousands of gay rights supporters marched through Taipei on Saturday, months ahead of elections that are likely to usher in a pro-gay party and could make Taiwan the first place in Asia to legalise same-sex marriage.

Protesters waved rainbow flags, lit candles and shouted “gay votes are still votes” as they marched between parliament and the headquarters of Taiwan’s two main political parties.

The recent U.S. Supreme Court decision legalising gay marriage has given a renewed push to the movement in Taiwan, where a marriage bill has been held up in parliament ahead of January elections.

“Taiwan society has reached the point of acceptance of gay marriage,” said protester Rafael Tsai. “It’s a shame our politicians don’t seem to be on the same level as the people.”

Taiwan is one of Asia’s most gay-friendly places, boasting a vibrant social scene and little overt discrimination. Polls show a majority in favour of gay marriage, and a recent study commissioned by the Ministry of Justice advocated legalisation.

There is no formal recognition of same-sex couples, however, and many young people are still reluctant to come out to their parents.

“There’s a huge generational split on the issue,” said Mei-Nu Yu, main author of the stalled marriage bill.

“The opponents mostly come from the older generation, who also happen to be the most heavily represented among lawmakers.”

Yu’s opposition Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) supports gay causes more than the ruling Nationalist party, whose fortunes have been in steep decline, particularly among young people who accuse it of cozying up to China.

The marriage push in proudly democratic Taiwan has not elicited a response from the mainland, which views the island as a renegade province and has not ruled out the use of force to bring it under its control.

Large Chinese cities have thriving gay cultures and there is public discussion of gay rights, but the government has detained activists as part of a broader crackdown on civil society, and there is little chance of legalising gay marriage anytime soon.

Representatives from both the Nationalists and DPP came out to address the marchers and voiced their support. Activists, however, lamented the reticence among the overall Taiwanese political establishment to touch the issue.

“It’s becoming a bigger electoral cause for voters,” said rally organizer Victoria Hsu. “Young people in particular are fed up with politicians’ silence.”