What If Jews Had Followed the Palestinian Path?

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What If Jews Had Followed the Palestinian Path?

read it in the WSJ on the way to Thailand
By WARREN KOZAK

It is doubtful that there has ever been a more miserable human refuse than Jewish survivors after World War II. Starving, emaciated, stateless—they were not welcomed back by countries where they had lived for generations as assimilated and educated citizens. Germany was no place to return to and in Kielce, Poland, 40 Jews who survived the Holocaust were killed in a pogrom one year after the war ended. The European Jew, circa 1945, quickly went from victim to international refugee disaster.
Yet within a very brief time, this epic calamity disappeared, so much so that few people today even remember the period. How did this happen in an era when Palestinian refugees have continued to be stateless for generations?
In 1945, there were hundreds of thousands of Jewish survivors living in DP Camps (displaced persons) across Europe. They were fed and clothed by Jewish and international relief organizations. Had the world's Jewish population played this situation as the Arabs and Palestinians have, everything would look very different today.
To begin with, the Jews would all still be living in these DP camps, only now the camps would have become squalid ghettos throughout Europe. The refugees would continue to be fed and clothed by a committee similar to UNRWA—the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (paid for mostly by the United States since 1948). Blessed with one of the world's highest birth rates, they would now number in the many millions. And 66 years later, new generations, fed on a mixture of hate and lies against the Europeans, would now seethe with anger.


Sometime in the early 1960s, the Jewish leadership of these refugee camps, having been trained in Moscow to wreak havoc on the West (as Yasser Arafat was) would have started to employ terrorism to shake down governments. Airplane hijackings in the 1970s would have been followed by passenger killings. There would have been attacks on high-profile targets as well—say, the German or Polish Olympic teams.
By the 1990s, the real mayhem would have begun. Raised on victimhood and used as cannon fodder by corrupt leaders, a generation of younger Jews would be blowing up buses, restaurants and themselves. The billions of dollars extorted from various governments would not have gone to the inhabitants of the camps. The money would be in the Swiss bank accounts of the refugees' famous and flamboyant leaders and their lackies.
So now it's the present, generations past the end of World War II, and the festering Jewish refugee problem throughout Europe has absolutely no end in sight. The worst part of this story would be the wasted lives of millions of human beings in the camps—inventions not invented, illnesses not cured, high-tech startups not started up, symphonies and books not written—a real cultural and spiritual desert.
None of this happened, of course. Instead, the Jewish refugees returned to their ancestral homeland. They left everything they had in Europe and turned their backs on the Continent—no "right of return" requested. They were welcomed by the 650,000 Jewish residents of Israel.
An additional 700,000 Jewish refugees flooded into the new state from Arab lands after they were summarily kicked out. Again losing everything after generations in one place; again welcomed in their new home.
In Israel, they did it all the hard way. They built a new country from scratch with roads, housing and schools. They created agricultural collectives to feed their people. They created a successful economy without domestic oil, and they built one of the world's most vibrant democracies in a region sadly devoid of free thought.
Yes, the Israelis did all this with the financial assistance of Jews around the world and others who helped get them on their feet so they could take care of themselves. These outsiders did not ignore them, or demean them, or use them as pawns in their own political schemes—as the Arab nations have done with the Palestinians.
I imagine the argument will be made that while the Jews may have achieved all this, they did not have their land stolen from them. This is, of course, a canard, another convenient lie. They did lose property all over Europe and the Mideast. And there was never an independent Palestine run by Palestinian Arabs. Ever. Jews and Arabs lived in this area controlled first by the Turks and then by the British. The U.N. offered the two-state solution that we hear so much about in 1947. The problem then, and now, is that it was accepted by only one party, Israel. No doubt, the situation of Arab residents of the Middle East back then may have been difficult, but it is incomprehensible that their lot was worse than that of the Jews at the end of World War II.
We don't hear about any of this because giving human beings hope and purpose doesn't make great copy. Squalor, victimhood and terror are always more exciting. Perhaps in the end, the greatest crime of the Jews was that they quietly created something from nothing. And in the process, they transformed themselves.
Golda Meir is credited with having said that if the Jews had not fought back against the Arab armies and had been destroyed in 1948, they would have received the most beautiful eulogies throughout the world. Instead, they chose to stand their ground and defend themselves. And in winning, they received the world's condemnation. Meir said she would take the condemnation over the eulogies.
Mr. Kozak is the author of "LeMay: The Life and Wars of General Curtis LeMay" (Regnery, 2009).

[sabang]

What a ridiculous article- and the WSJ published this racist diatribe? Typical.
Those Palestinians that are living in refugee camps are not doing so through choice. They are denied return to their homeland of Palestine, and have no rights of residence elsewhere either.

[Boon Mee]

What a ridiculous article- and the WSJ published this racist diatribe? Typical.
Those Palestinians that are living in refugee camps are not doing so through choice. They are denied return to their homeland of Palestine, and have no rights of residence elsewhere either.

Cry me a river. The Jews have turned that desert that was so-called "Palistine" into a garden. The Pali's are a shower that even other Arabs abhor.

[taxexile]

jews are intelligent hard working fighters.

palestinians are dumb lazy cowards. ..... and i dont think they ever had an independent state of their own. they should have been pragmatic and taken what they were given in '48, tried to make a go of it, traded with and accepted the jews as neighbours. if they had they wouldnt be the pathetic people they are now.

used by their so called brothers as cannon fodder for a hopeless cause.

[socal]

What a ridiculous article- and the WSJ published this racist diatribe? Typical.
Those Palestinians that are living in refugee camps are not doing so through choice. They are denied return to their homeland of Palestine, and have no rights of residence elsewhere either.

For the Jews that where not burned up, they where kicked off all of their land in Europe, and had no right of residence elsewhere.

[attaboy]

Maybe the Palestinians can have the land Jews were driven from in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, etc.. They can have what was previously owned by Jewish people in those countries. Sound fair?

I don't know if Palestinians are dumb lazy cowards, but they do know how to exploit the sympathies of the West. Poor miserable people with nothing more than stones to throw. And the adults are so weak from hunger only the children have the strength to throw rocks. Oh, the sacrifices they make for their children.

I do know that Palestinians roam the Gaza strip in murderous clans they call pretentious names like Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. They are nothing more than street thugs. Murderous street thugs staking out turf and intimidating their own people within their sphere of influence. Bullies and cowards.

The Palestinians leaders are willing for their people to live in poverty, accepting Euro and USA aid, sitting and waiting the Israelis out while they play the victim for the cameras, firing off rockets and sending suicide bombers to maintain the level of anxiety so things don't get too contented on either side, waiting. Time is on their side. That's the kind of war they have chosen. They see it as a war of attrition with the Palestinians funded by the UN, Euros, the USA and Arab and Iranian benefactors.

Forcing their people to live in poverty becasue it is part of the strategy towards victory, especially when there is the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad - ruthless murderous street thugs amongst the populace enforcing adherence to the strategy.

Oh, but we're getting off track, don't forget the image of the children throwing rocks. My eyes are tearing up. Someone else take over for me... someone else carry on conveying the plight of the pitiful Palestinians.





We're Hamas and we say: Don't forget us when you vote and don't forget to beat your wife so she votes the same as you!

[sabang]

'I don't like the Palestinians', or 'I don't like the Israeli's' is hardly an objective basis for a foreign policy settlement .

[Jesus Jones]

Fook the Jews. If any race has milked their past horrors, the Jews have. Fuck em'

[larvidchr]

^ Yeahh

[PlanK]

used by their so called brothers as cannon fodder for a hopeless cause.

And the West uses Israel as a buffer, military outpost, focal point for Arab aggression. Both sides fokked really.

The Palestinians leaders are willing for their people to live in poverty, accepting Euro and USA aid, sitting and waiting the Israelis out while they play the victim for the cameras, firing off rockets and sending suicide bombers to maintain the level of anxiety so things don't get too contented on either side, waiting. Time is on their side.

Time is also on the side of the Israelis. They slowly encroach on Palestine land and build their settlements. The world soon gets tired of these low-key stories repeated in the press. As long as Israel doesn't go OTT, in a couple of generations Palestine homeland becomes their homeland.

Sorted.

[Norton]

Time is also on the side of the Israelis.

Not so sure about this. Depends on what sort of governments emerge in neighboring countries as the result of the "Arab spring". Israel could well face a situation where quickly resolving the "Palestinian issue" is the only viable alternative.

The current government is bucking the majority of Isrealis who want serious peace talks with the Palestinians. Anyone of the many collocation partners could leave forcing new elections which would favor the center-left Kadima party, and current opposition leader, Tzipi Livni forming the new government and becoming prime minister.

[sabang]

Tzipi Livni

She's hardly a Dove either.

As long as Israel doesn't go OTT, in a couple of generations Palestine homeland becomes their homeland.

On which basis, the 'one state' solution becomes a demographic inevitability- and this is exactly what the Israeli's are opposed to, because of their Jewish state mantra. An increasing number of Palestinians think thats the way it's inevitably gonna be anyhow, given Israeli intransigence.

[Norton]

She's hardly a Dove either.

Not a big improvement but better than current gov.

[KAPPA]

Cry me a river. The Jews have turned that desert that was so-called "Palistine" into a garden

Actually, the entire region is suffering water shortages as the official Gov site explains;

Israel-s Chronic Water Problem

The huge industry of growing flowers for export has an impact too
Agriculture in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Flowers


Flowers grown for export


Mostly exported, Israel produces vast quantities of flowers, and is placed amongst the world's largest flower-growing countries. Flower exports in 2000 exceeded $50 million.[15] The flowers grown most commonly are wax flowers, followed by roses, which are grown on 214 hectares of land.[15]

Roses take a lot f water and this frivolous capitalism has Palestinains suffering for lack of clean water for living with.
The Israelis are following the West's erred model of Non-sustainabilty.


Flowers


Flowers grown for export


Mostly exported, Israel produces vast quantities of flowers, and is placed amongst the world's largest flower-growing countries. Flower exports in 2000 exceeded $50 million.[15] The flowers grown most commonly are wax flowers, followed by roses, which are grown on 214 hectares of land.[15]

[billy the kid]

do the palestinians have enough water for basic needs ?
how much water to feed a bunch of flowers ?

[socal]

used by their so called brothers as cannon fodder for a hopeless cause.

And the West uses Israel as a buffer, military outpost, focal point for Arab aggression. Both sides fokked really.

The Palestinians leaders are willing for their people to live in poverty, accepting Euro and USA aid, sitting and waiting the Israelis out while they play the victim for the cameras, firing off rockets and sending suicide bombers to maintain the level of anxiety so things don't get too contented on either side, waiting. Time is on their side.

Time is also on the side of the Israelis. They slowly encroach on Palestine land and build their settlements. The world soon gets tired of these low-key stories repeated in the press. As long as Israel doesn't go OTT, in a couple of generations Palestine homeland becomes their homeland.

Sorted.

maybe the Israelis should do to the Palestinians what the Europeans did to them. Just round them up and burn them all.

[socal]

do the palestinians have enough water for basic needs ?
how much water to feed a bunch of flowers ?

They have more basics covered then the Jews in the concentration camps did.

[sabang]

Remember the Zealots?

Zealotry was originally a political movement in 1st century Second Temple Judaism which sought to incite the people of Iudaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from the Holy land by force of arms, most notably during the Great Jewish Revolt (66-70). Zealotry was described by Josephus as one of the "four sects" at this time. The zealots have been described as one of the first examples of the use of terrorism
Zealotry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One of their classic acts (apart from assassinating everyone they could, Jewish or otherwise, who disagreed with them) was to burn the massive stockpile of food and wood in Jerusalem, to force the Jews to fight against the occupying Roman Empire. Result- destruction of Jerusalem & their religious HQ of King Solomon's Temple (there is a Mosque there now), and the third expulsion of the Jews from Judea. The 'last stand' of the Zealots was Massada, fittingly used as an icon by right wing Zionists now. The only Apostle that was actually Judean was also a Zealot- his name was Judas. The rest were from the Galilee, and mostly not Jewish.

Zionism/ Zealotry (and bigotry, violence, dishonesty etc) will not have a good outcome for the Jews. They will either destroy their own vision via demographics, because a 'greater Israel' that includes Palestine will mean Israel is not a Jewish state, or they will just recreate history yet again, perhaps resulting in a fourth exodus of the Jews. I trust the USA will be happy to have them.

They are on a hide into nothing.

[larvidchr]

All you Israel detractors might become seriously disappointed, with the Arab spring much more pragmatic Governments might appear and the dictatorial fanatical religious element that previously have spurred other Arab nations to support the Palestinians they dont really like will take a backseat, when only Iran is left screaming that Israel must be wiped of the face of the earth as they did again this week, and the new Arab nations eager for support and international recognition the Palis will be increasingly isolated and forced to make a deal, God only knows they have been offered good deals before but have turned them down due to fanatical monumental stupidity and Western liberals unfathomable support of criminal dictatorial murderous Palestinian terrorists.

[sabang]

^ It is pragmatism the Israeli's have to grasp though, their government and security organs more so than their people. They are on a hide into nothing, and basically doing the same things we do in the West- putting off the tough decisions indefinitely.

They cannot kill or deport all the indigenous Palestinians, so they are left with one of two choices.
Annex Palestine- thus a combined Jewish/ Pali state. Aka the 'one state' solution, as originally proposed by Col Qadaffi ironically.
Or the two state solution. Over to them- but inaction just makes the one state solution inevitable.

[DrAndy]

What a ridiculous article- and the WSJ published this racist diatribe? Typical.
Those Palestinians that are living in refugee camps are not doing so through choice. They are denied return to their homeland of Palestine, and have no rights of residence elsewhere either.

Cry me a river. The Jews have turned that desert that was so-called "Palistine" into a garden. The Pali's are a shower that even other Arabs abhor.

A fallacy

Palestine was never a desert (it did have desert regions, as it still does), it was a country that grew enough food to feed the population and sell to other countries

it also had enough water

The Israelis have planted crops that need stupid amounts of water (including cotton) and have continued taking water out of the system so that there is now not enough. Even the Dead sea is shrinking; the river Jordan has become a trickle compared to what it was

greed and stupidity

[DrAndy]

maybe the Israelis should do to the Palestinians what the Europeans did to them. Just round them up and burn them all.

they are doing that, but in a less efficient manner

[Neo]

Fuck the Jews, they've had a fair go and plenty of help and they're still hateful cunts.

[DrAndy]

I thought we were talking about Israelis, not Jews worldwide

[Neo]

Ok, fuck the Israelis.